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• lovely0581

  1 Oct 08, 22:13

  HMM。。。   我没说ä¸�能调查他。。。     å�ªæ˜¯æˆ‘们佛弟å­�ä¸�能说闲è¯�

• yamizi

  2 Oct 08, 11:36

  Originally posted by lovely0581:

  HMM。。。   我没说ä¸�能调查他。。。     å�ªæ˜¯æˆ‘们佛弟å­�ä¸�能说闲è¯�

  那想请问先学您所谓的�能说闲�是指任何的闲�或是出家人的闲�呢?

• dragon_stone

  2 Oct 08, 14:24

  If we are not able to provide our views, then what is the purpose of this forum and forum topic? If everything is based on fear, then the topic would makes no sense. Then it would better be nothingness/emptiness...空是色，色是空 or something like that:)
• dragon_stone

  2 Oct 08, 14:24

  If we are not able to provide our views, then what is the purpose of this forum and forum topic? If everything is based on fear, then the topic would makes no sense. Then it would better be nothingness/emptiness...空是色，色是空 or something like that:)
• justdoit77

  2 Oct 08, 18:28

  其实这�事已�交给法庭处里了,我们�应该继续空想�猜测下去.
  �使我们�是佛教徒也该尊守国家的法律,虽然法律�一定完美�如法.

• yamizi

  2 Oct 08, 23:02

  Originally posted by justdoit77:

  其实这�事已�交给法庭处里了,我们�应该继续空想�猜测下去.
  �使我们�是佛教徒也该尊守国家的法律,虽然法律�一定完美�如法.

  嘿嘿...佛教徒也是有�惧的...所以我��确认您们所说的闲�是指对佛教的出家人还是所有的事情?

  但是答案很显然...想�一个自在的人�倒��更多的约�...嘿嘿

• lovely0581

  4 Oct 08, 20:47

  HMM。。。   佛法最讲因果。。  当然最好是è°�çš„é—²è¯�都ä¸�说是最好的。。。

  
  但如果�下想�说的�。。 我也无�奈何。。

  
   
  大家一定觉得很奇怪，为什么ä¸�å�¯ä»¥è¯´å‡ºå®¶äººçš„é—²è¯�？。。  那是因为出家人现的出家相是佛相。。 在家弟å­�æ�­æ•¬çš„是佛相，ä¸�是人。。。  å�ªè¦�他没还俗，我ä¾�旧对他æ�­æ�­æ•¬æ•¬ã€‚。。  但我ä¸�跟他学习佛法。。。  这是ä¾�法ä¸�ä¾�人的æ„�æ€�。。

   

  佛法ä¸�怕别人问。。   对佛法越有疑问越好。。。   è¦�深入ç»�è—�。。   身体力行æ‰�是世尊的第一弟å­�。。。

• Isis

  4 Oct 08, 21:52

  Right Speech

  by Thanissaro Bhikkhu

   

  As my teacher once said, "If you can't control your mouth, there's no way you can hope to control your mind.' This is why right speech is so important in day-to-day practice.

  Right speech, explained in negative terms, means avoiding four types of harmful speech: lies (words spoken with the intent of misrepresenting the truth); divisive speech (spoken with the intent of creating rifts between people); harsh speech (spoken with the intent of hurting another person's feelings); and idle chatter (spoken with no purposeful intent at all).

  Notice the focus on intent: this is where the practice of right speech intersects with the training of the mind. Before you speak, you focus on why you want to speak. This helps get you in touch with all the machinations taking place in the committee of voices running your mind. If you see any unskillful motives lurking behind the committee's decisions, you veto them. As a result, you become more aware of yourself, more honest with yourself, more firm with yourself. You also save yourself from saying things that you'll later regret. In this way you strengthen qualities of mind that will be helpful in meditation, at the same time avoiding any potentially painful memories that would get in the way of being attentive to the present moment when the time comes to meditate.

  In positive terms, right speech means speaking in ways that are trustworthy, harmonious, comforting, and worth taking to heart. When you make a practice of these positive forms of right speech, your words become a gift to others. In response, other people will start listening more to what you say, and will be more likely to respond in kind. This gives you a sense of the power of your actions: the way you act in the present moment does shape the world of your experience. You don't need to be a victim of past events.

   

   

  For many of us, the most difficult part of practicing right speech lies in how we express our sense of humor. Especially here in America, we're used to getting laughs with exaggeration, sarcasm, group stereotypes, and pure silliness — all classic examples of wrong speech. If people get used to these sorts of careless humor, they stop listening carefully to what we say. In this way, we cheapen our own discourse. Actually, there's enough irony in the state of the world that we don't need to exaggerate or be sarcastic. The greatest humorists are the ones who simply make us look directly at the way things are.

  Expressing our humor in ways that are truthful, useful, and wise may require thought and effort, but when we master this sort of wit we find that the effort is well spent. We've sharpened our own minds and have improved our verbal environment. In this way, even our jokes become part of our practice: an opportunity to develop positive qualities of mind and to offer something of intelligent value to the people around us.

  So pay close attention to what you say — and to why you say it. When you do, you'll discover that an open mouth doesn't have to be a mistake.

• Isis

  5 Oct 08, 00:16

  idle chatter =  é—²è¯�

  Until we have all the sufficient information, we shouldn't anyhow speculate things.

   

   

• Bodhi hut

  5 Oct 08, 03:53

  �善业�

  由五戒扩大，��善业�，谓之天乘，能修�善到达上�的，�生�享�天�。�是五戒侧�在身的修为，而�善是兼明心的动念而已。因此�以说，开五戒第四的妄语为：�妄语，�两舌，���，�绮语的四戒，�起�就是(一)��生，(二)��盗，(三)�邪淫，(四)�妄语，(五)�两舌，(六)���，(七 )�绮语，(八)�贪，(�)�镇，(�)�痴，�善戒法，或称�善业�。现在将�善业�略述于下：

  (一) ��生而慈心于� ─ ─ �对一切众生，应一视��，勿残�加害。因为佛教主张佛性平等，�倡慈悲救世，故释尊以平等慈悲教义，指示众生皆有佛性，故�能�。而孔�也曾说：「闻其声，��食其肉。�也是出于�爱，而怜�被�害的众生。由此看�，能慈心于�，无�害生�，生命界则�尽其天然，争斗仇�的事，便�消�，天下岂�太平？

  (二) ��盗而义利节用 ─ ─��窃强夺人家的财物，����盗。因为一切事物，主�转移，必�正义，�与�而�，�分�而�，无功而�，都是�盗的行为。知利己而须利人，�利人为利己，��「义利�。人人行义利，节俭日用，与朋�金钱往�而能守信，则无�盗之事�生。

  (三) �邪淫而贞良守礼 ─ ─ ��正�结�之夫妻外，�得行淫。亦�组织家庭之�，夫妇须相敬如宾，�有其他淫乱行为。能端正男女间之欲情，���邪淫，也就是贞良守礼。

  (四) �妄语而诚实无欺 ─ ─ 如能远离妄语，便能�到诚实�欺，则父�，兄弟，亲属，朋�，以�人事的接触，彼此都能互相信任，实为得�之�。

  (五) �两舌而无争是� ─ ─ �两舌�是��弄是�，�离间他人感情。两舌�祸，�导致是�烦�，扰乱身心，甚至动武伤人，实为�人��血之罪�。苟能远离两舌，说正直�，岂有是�之争端？

  (六) ���而出言慈和 ─ ─ ����是�说粗��辱他人的�，��咒诅他人的�毒言语。常人多患��骂人，所以�云：「犯��者，当�畜生果报。�故���而出言慈和，�积德�善，为人敬爱。

  (七) �绮语而言说有礼 ─ ─ 所谓绮语，�花言巧语，说�正�的�，导人生诸邪念，或出言�弄，胡乱开�，以为��，都��绮语。说绮语者，死���，生而为人，永�轻贱。故说���于礼仪，�乖�真实，便���绮语。如能远离绮语，则心正言顺，庄严�仪，必为人敬仰。

  (八) �悭贪而慈心�施 ─ ─ 自己的财物�肯施人，��「悭�，他人的财物，但欲归我，��「贪�。悭贪的人追求��色�财�食��五欲，莫知所止，便会�出��罪业。故�远离悭贪，�悭�自己的财物，也�贪求他人的财物，把谋生得�的钱财，除家庭费用外，对于贫病孤苦者，能给与�情慈济，或�助社会�利事业，�是慈心�施。

  (�) �镇�而慈�积� ─ ─ 镇���事�顺，埋�于心，�怒于形，甚至脾气爆�，导致�害�祸，故�以慈悲容�对治镇�，勤修慈悲�辱美德，远离镇�过患，���就自利利他大事业。

  (�) �愚痴而多闻增智 ─ ─ 愚痴是无明�迷昧�没有智慧，对事�无所明了，�能辨别是�，�信因果法则，固执邪�，无正�正�个事�明白的善人，是��愚痴。

  以上��生，��盗，�邪淫，是为身三善业。�妄语，�两舌，���，�绮语，是为�四善业。�悭贪，�镇�，�愚痴，是为�三善业。

  太虚大师说：「仰止唯佛陀，完就在人格，人��佛�，是�真现实。�这�是说�止佛陀的真�，修习智慧，培养�全的人格，�是学佛的真义。�善业�，一方�制止外在的�行，一方�净化内心的善行，以达到建立人间净土，�是现实人生佛教之目的，也�是适�时代需�的佛教

  守��業乃是修行的�點。。。

• yamizi

  5 Oct 08, 11:57

  Originally posted by lovely0581:

  HMM。。。   佛法最讲因果。。  当然最好是è°�çš„é—²è¯�都ä¸�说是最好的。。。

  
  但如果�下想�说的�。。 我也无�奈何。。

  
   
  大家一定觉得很奇怪，为什么ä¸�å�¯ä»¥è¯´å‡ºå®¶äººçš„é—²è¯�？。。  那是因为出家人现的出家相是佛相。。在家弟å­�æ�­æ•¬çš„是佛相，ä¸�是人。。。  å�ªè¦�他没还俗，我ä¾�旧对他æ�­æ�­æ•¬æ•¬ã€‚。。  但我ä¸�跟他学习佛法。。。  这是ä¾�法ä¸�ä¾�人的æ„�æ€�。。

   

  佛法ä¸�怕别人问。。   对佛法越有疑问越好。。。   è¦�深入ç»�è—�。。   身体力行æ‰�是世尊的第一弟å­�。。。

  所以佛教已沦为一个礼敬外相的信仰...唔...您这样解释也蛮有趣的. 新加�佛教�说是没人能使一个出家人还俗的, 所以�使出家人犯了错, 因为没人能弄他还俗他还能继续被佛教徒�尊�, �起��是蛮�错的行业.

  
  什么闲�都�说似乎很难�得到. 如果以此类推, 一般人都无法�得到. 看一看周边的新闻所报�的��消�, �能您的�事业和你闲�家常, 如此如此地, 看��有�物人和死人�能彻底的�说闲�了�.

  况且什么是"闲�"?"闲�"的定义是什么? �关己事就是"闲�"? 闲�社会�题就是"闲�"?

  那你现在在这论�里和我对��称"闲�"�?