Fathers of 1st atomic bomb
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Seems like bad karma too strong to wait already for main executors of atomic bomb project (for those who never even regret of their work).Alerted by the émigré Hungarian scientist Leo Szilard to the possibility that the Germans might build an atom bomb, he wrote F.D.R. of the danger, even though he knew little about recent developments in nuclear physics. When Szilard told Einstein about chain reactions, he was astonished: "I never thought about that at all," he said. Later, when he learned of the destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, he uttered a pained sigh.======================
Dr. Oppenheimer, on whom had rested a very heavy burden, grew tenser as the last seconds ticked off. He scarcely breathed. He held on to a post to steady himself. For the last few seconds, he stared directly ahead and then when the announcer shouted "Now!" and there came this tremendous burst of light followed shortly thereafter by the deep growling roar of the explosion, his face relaxed into an expression of tremendous relief=> from the above record, obviously this guy has no concern about human life ... all he care is whether the atomic bomb will be successful or notRobert Oppenheimer was diagnosed with throat cancer in late 1965, and the tumour spread to his palate, affecting his swallowing, hearing, and breathing. He died in February 1967, at age 62.==============================================================Enrico Fermi (Italian)
Fermi was on hand in the New Mexican desert for the first test of the brutal new weapon in July 1945. He estimated its explosive yield with a characteristically simple experiment, dropping scraps of paper in the predawn stillness and again when the blast wind arrived and comparing their displacement.Fermi died at age 53 of stomach cancer.
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Von Neumann (computer scientist too):
Von Neumann oversaw computations related to the expected size of the bomb blasts, estimated death tolls, and the distance above the ground at which the bombs should be detonated for optimum shock wave propagation and thus maximum effect. The cultural capital Kyoto, which had been spared the firebombing inflicted upon militarily significant target cities like Tokyo in World War II, was von Neumann's first choice,
After the war, Robert Oppenheimer remarked that the physicists involved in the Manhattan project had "known sin". Von Neumann's response was that "sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it."
Von Neumann continued unperturbed in his work and became, along with Edward Teller, one of those who sustained the hydrogen bomb project.
Died of cancer February 8, 1957 (aged 53) von Neumann's death is described in these terms:-
... his mind, the amulet on which he had always been able to rely, was becoming less dependable. Then came complete psychological breakdown; panic, screams of uncontrollable terror every night. His friend Edward Teller said, "I think that von Neumann suffered more when his mind would no longer function, than I have ever seen any human being suffer."
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Nice sharing. Thanks. The effects of karma is really very real. Sometimes the scenes of hell will appear in their dreams first. A person once asked my master how come after slandering the Buddha in the past he had dreams of having a very long tongue pulled by a buffolo.
My master replied that is exactly the kind of hell retribution that he would have to experience due to slandering as described in the sutras. He should chant Buddha/bodhisattva's name seriously to help with his karma.
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he created something very dangerous and threatening to the world........
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Thanks to thier contribution and death. We now have.. NUCLEAR POWER !
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even without them, the scientists of today too will create the atom bombs. its just a matter of time. science can act as double edge sword, can advance humans and cure sicknesses, but at its worst, can create havoc in the form of bombs and guns.
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Yes some say it's a necessary evil. Albert Einstein urged U.S. to develope the weapon because if they don't, the Nazis will get it first, they would have won the war and there will be catastrophic consequences.
Needless to say... worldwide nuclear disarmament is now the only way to prevent catastrophes of worldwide proportions.
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
Yes some say it's a necessary evil. Albert Einstein urged U.S. to develope the weapon because if they don't, the Nazis will get it first, they would have won the war and there will be catastrophic consequences.
Needless to say... worldwide nuclear disarmament is now the only way to prevent catastrophes of worldwide proportions.
I am not sure if the Nazis at that time, will develop nuclear weapons. even if they do, it will not be more than the 2 atom bombs dropped in Japan. The US can always develop more atom bombs and then dropped in germany, with more millions perished.
I read that NASA sent a bomb to bomb the moon to look for water. maybe they can send all the nukes to the moon for nuclear disarmament.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
I am not sure if the Nazis at that time, will develop nuclear weapons. even if they do, it will not be more than the 2 atom bombs dropped in Japan. The US can always develop more atom bombs and then dropped in germany, with more millions perished.
I read that NASA sent a bomb to bomb the moon to look for water. maybe they can send all the nukes to the moon for nuclear disarmament.
Dream on.......they will instead hoard their nukes on the moon and drop them on anyone they like from it -
BTW I strongly believe nuclear weapons was the cause of downfall for our previous human civilisations. Yes, human civilisations date back much further than we think... and this is in accord with the Buddhist scriptures.
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Ancient City Found In India Irradiated
By Nuclear Blast 8,000 Years Ago
This file from Bryant Stavely was excerpted from the World Island Review, January 1992.
Radiation still so intense, the area is highly dangerous. A heavy layer of radioactive ash in Rajasthan, India, covers a three-square mile area, ten miles west of Jodhpur. Scientists are investigating the site, where a housing development was being built.
For some time it has been established that there is a very high rate of birth defects and cancer in the area under construction. The levels of radiation there have registered so high on investigators' gauges that the Indian government has now cordoned off the region. Scientists have unearthed an ancient city where evidence shows an atomic blast dating back thousands of years, from 8,000 to 12,000 years, destroyed most of the buildings and probably a half-million people. One researcher estimates that the nuclear bomb used was about the size of the ones dropped on Japan in 1945.
The Mahabharata clearly describes a catastrophic blast that rocked the continent. "A single projectile charged with all the power in the Universe...An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as 10,000 suns, rose in all its splendor...it was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death which reduced to ashes an entire race.
"The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. Their hair and nails fell out, pottery broke without any apparent cause, and the birds turned white. After a few hours, all foodstuffs were infected. To escape from this fire, the soldiers threw themselves into the river."
Historian Kisari Mohan Ganguli says that Indian sacred writings are full of such descriptions, which sound like an atomic blast as experienced in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He says references mention fighting sky chariots and final weapons. An ancient battle is described in the Drona Parva, a section of the Mahabharata. "The passage tells of combat where explosions of final weapons decimate entire armies, causing crowds of warriors with steeds and elephants and weapons to be carried away as if they were dry leaves of trees," says Ganguli.
"Instead of mushroom clouds, the writer describes a perpendicular explosion with its billowing smoke clouds as consecutive openings of giant parasols. There are comments about the contamination of food and people's hair falling out."
Archeologist Francis Taylor says that etchings in some nearby temples he has managed to translate suggest that they prayed to be spared from the great light that was coming to lay ruin to the city. "It's so mid-boggling to imagine that some civilization had nuclear technology before we did. The radioactive ash adds credibility to the ancient Indian records that describe atomic warfare."
Construction has halted while the five member team conducts the investigation. The foreman of the project is Lee Hundley, who pioneered the investigation after the high level of radiation was discovered....
The great ancient Indian epic, the Mahabharata, contains numerous legends about the powerful force of a mysterious weapon
The archaeological expedition, which carried out excavations near the Indian settlement of Mohenjo-Daro in the beginning of the 1900s, uncovered the ruins of a big ancient town. The town belonged to one of the most developed civilizations in the world. The ancient civilization existed for two or three thousand years. However, scientists were a lot more interested in the death of the town, rather than in its prosperity.
Researchers tried to explain the reason of the town's destruction with various theories. However, scientists did not find any indications of a monstrous flood, skeletons were not numerous, there were no fragments of weapons, or anything else that could testify either to a natural disaster or a war. Archaeologists were perplexed: according to their analysis the catastrophe in the town had occurred very unexpectedly and it did hot last long.
Scientists Davneport and Vincenti put forward an amazing theory. They stated the ancient town had been ruined with a nuclear blast. They found big stratums of clay and green glass. Apparently, archaeologists supposed, high temperature melted clay and sand and they hardened immediately afterwards. Similar stratums of green glass can also found in Nevada deserts after every nuclear explosion.
A hundred years have passed since the excavations in Mohenjo-Daro. The modern analysis showed, the fragments of the ancient town had been melted with extremely high temperature - not less than 1,500 degrees centigrade. Researchers also found the strictly outlined epicenter, where all houses were leveled. Destructions lessened towards the outskirts. Dozens of skeletons were found in the area of Mohenjo-Daro - their radioactivity exceeded the norm almost 50 times.
The great ancient Indian epic, the Mahabharata, contains numerous legends about the powerful force of a mysterious weapon. One of the chapters tells of a shell, which sparkled like fire, but had no smoke. "When the shell hit the ground, the darkness covered the sky, twisters and storms leveled the towns. A horrible blast burnt thousands of animals and people to ashes. Peasants, townspeople and warriors dived in the river to wash away the poisonous dust." -
Incidently, Oppenheimer, the inventor of the atom bomb, on being interviewed by the media, gave a surprising reply referring to the atom bomb which he had just invented, as- " not the first nuclear weapon, but the first one of modern times".
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A chilling and historically significant passage. Verse 32 was remembered by Robert Oppenheimer, who was in charge of the Manhattan Project (which built the first atomic bombs), when he saw the very first bomb explode at Trinity Site in New Mexico (nearer Socorro than Alamogordo, where the wire service story was filed), on July 16, 1945. Oppenheimer was familiar with a different translation: "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." This seems more to the point, for the Atomic Bomb, than "I am all-powerful Time which destroys all things." The word kâla can mean "Time, fate; death, god of death," so both translations express part of the meaning.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
I am not sure if the Nazis at that time, will develop nuclear weapons. even if they do, it will not be more than the 2 atom bombs dropped in Japan. The US can always develop more atom bombs and then dropped in germany, with more millions perished.
I read that NASA sent a bomb to bomb the moon to look for water. maybe they can send all the nukes to the moon for nuclear disarmament.
Not necessarily. They could have dropped many nuclear bombs on U.S. and U.K. and force the world to surrender.
Do you think Nazis, who killed millions of jews, would care about the deaths of civilians?
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I dun think so. if it happened, carbons and fossils would be hidden in the ruins and buried underground and scientists would be able to find them. fossils and carbons dun lie, but humans can lie, even writings.
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Kaboom!!!!!!!!!!
All of humanity ends in a Flash!!!
the aliens put on their sunglasses to watch....
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
Not necessarily. They could have dropped many nuclear bombs on U.S. and U.K. and force the world to surrender.
Do you think Nazis, who killed millions of jews, would care about the deaths of civilians?
at that time, the US could only develop 2 atom bombs, you think germany can develop how many? more than the US 2 atom boms, I dun think so. if the war is prolonged, the US can still develop a few more, but germany was already reeling from the war. its a matter of time before they surrender. even in germany, there are also people in the army against the regime of hitler.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
at that time, the US could only develop 2 atom bombs, you think germany can develop how many? more than the US 2 atom boms, I dun think so. if the war is prolonged, the US can still develop a few more, but germany was already reeling from the war. its a matter of time before they surrender. even in germany, there are also people in the army against the regime of hitler.
Yeah. For Germany the circumstances were against them... but U.S. couldn't take any chances. If the Germans did manage to suddenly build an atomic weapon, the tide of war will turn. In any case even if Germans failed to develope it, the Soviets will, and in the end they have to develope it.
It takes many years of international cooperation for disarmament.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
I dun think so. if it happened, carbons and fossils would be hidden in the ruins and buried underground and scientists would be able to find them. fossils and carbons dun lie, but humans can lie, even writings.
Yes there were carbons, fossils, and evidences that prove that those ancient materials were irradiated (very high trace of radioactivity) and melted under extreme high temperature (above 1500 degrees) only possible due to nuclear blast as the article stated.
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Einstein had never thought about nuclear weapon and the theory behind it. When his friend Szilard told him about it, he was shocked and said he never thought it was possible. However, his friend managed to convince him to sign a letter to the US president to start a project to address the threat of Nazi's atomic bomb project. Einstein was never involved in anyway in the Manhattan project and many scientists in the project also has no idea that they were creating a bomb initially.
In fact after the war, Szilard was in such a remorse that he changed his career from physics to biology.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le%C3%B3_Szil%C3%A1rd
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Kyoto escaped the atomic bomb because the Secretary of Defence spent his honeymoon there ....it was originally in the list of cities to be bombed.
