Note to all Buddhist to practice Universal Restraint
I noticed a trend that some Buddhist go to Forum E to bash the other religion people
Its still goes back to the "My Religion shouldnt be ridiculed " mentality .That is still a form of attachment which must be eliminated to have inner peace
We knows everyone have affinity , the higher affinity will be Buddhist in this lifetime ,while others is other religion .We should learn to restraint from bashing other people religion because that isnt our business .
Just as Shantideva in <<Entering the Bodhisattva way of life >> says ,"we cant carpeted the whole ground in the world with carpet but we can cushion the pain with our two piece of cut-out portion for food
Shantideva also raised that no hatred must be beared even when Buddhist establishment is destroyed in the crowd of unruly mob and anti-Buddhist ,for no words of hatred should be established.
His words truly exemplified in H H .Dalai Lama atitude towards the Communist China
So , forummer ,spend more wholesome time in discussion of Buddhism then fighting in narrow alleys of views and be a realised person who influenced alot then a few .
and those joker who comes to our forum to be "monkey"
we must emulate the spirit of Mahatma Gandhi when he start passive disobedience with the British in South Africa against the Rule of allowing Police to enter Indian house without a warrant
"we must have the courage to contain their anger "
Consider the profitability of a debate or argument if the truth cannot prevail.
Too often points given are taken as personal attacks , and usually turns emotional.
Well, I am there partly is to correct the wrong views on Buddhism and partly to get some answers from them. Reasons because I am a non Christian in a Christian family. However, there is an unwritten rule in my family, meaning little or no discussion of religion to avoid conflicts. So, the only way is to get answers from them in order for me to speak the same frequency with my family members.
For example, some ignorant people at EH claimed that disasters will only hit Buddhist countries. So, I have to point out to them, The Black Death in 1349 and Spanish Flu in 1918 killed millions of Americans and European. If no one there to clarify, others will think that is true.
The world did not start from the day we were born, they have to look beyond the period we are living, the history of man-kind.
Many unblievers are taken in by signs of the end of the world (floods, war in the middle east, diseases etc). If one were to look at the history of man-kind, one will know that these signs are happening throughout the history of man-kind and won't be taken in by them.
I think defending one's religion and bashing other people's religion are two different things.
If you see a person making a statement such as 'I'm a Buddhist therefore I cannot eat beef or else GuanYinMa will be angry', will you leave it at that for non-Buddhist to see/hear and therefore gain misconception? Such misconception will only serve to weaken other's afinity with Buddhism.
Your people came around to EH bashing christianity, calling christians purely stupid just because they reject the theory of evolution. How unreasonable is that?
As I said, AndrewPKYap is not Buddhist
Oh. I thought he was one. Maybe I got confused :S
Yes, contain one's anger..to have a calm mind to make better judgement.
Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:Well, I am there partly is to correct the wrong views on Buddhism and partly to get some answers from them. Reasons because I am a non Christian in a Christian family. However, there is an unwritten rule in my family, meaning little or no discussion of religion to avoid conflicts. So, the only way is to get answers from them in order for me to speak the same frequency with my family members.
For example, some ignorant people at EH claimed that disasters will only hit Buddhist countries. So, I have to point out to them, The Black Death in 1349 and Spanish Flu in 1918 killed millions of Americans and European. If no one there to clarify, others will think that is true.
The world did not start from the day we were born, they have to look beyond the period we are living, the history of man-kind.
Many unblievers are taken in by signs of the end of the world (floods, war in the middle east, diseases etc). If one were to look at the history of man-kind, one will know that these signs are happening throughout the history of man-kind and won't be taken in by them.
You are that monkey. Who in EH is interested in your superstitious religion?
Originally posted by bohiruci:Note to all Buddhist to practice Universal Restraint
I noticed a trend that some Buddhist go to Forum E to bash the other religion people
Its still goes back to the "My Religion shouldnt be ridiculed " mentality .That is still a form of attachment which must be eliminated to have inner peace
We knows everyone have affinity , the higher affinity will be Buddhist in this lifetime ,while others is other religion .We should learn to restraint from bashing other people religion because that isnt our business .
Just as Shantideva in <<Entering the Bodhisattva way of life >> says ,"we cant carpeted the whole ground in the world with carpet but we can cushion the pain with our two piece of cut-out portion for food
Shantideva also raised that no hatred must be beared even when Buddhist establishment is destroyed in the crowd of unruly mob and anti-Buddhist ,for no words of hatred should be established.
His words truly exemplified in H H .Dalai Lama atitude towards the Communist China
So , forummer ,spend more wholesome time in discussion of Buddhism then fighting in narrow alleys of views and be a realised person who influenced alot then a few .
and those joker who comes to our forum to be "monkey"
we must emulate the spirit of Mahatma Gandhi when he start passive disobedience with the British in South Africa against the Rule of allowing Police to enter Indian house without a warrant
"we must have the courage to contain their anger "
Your first step is to teach your monkeys to behave.
Originally posted by Larryteo:Your people came around to EH bashing christianity, calling christians purely stupid just because they reject the theory of evolution. How unreasonable is that?
Then u and your lot leh? Notorious for bashing other religions
Originally posted by googoomuck:You are that monkey. Who in EH is interested in your superstitious religion?
How is it superstitious at all?
TS, please have understanding of what is said in that thread. Bu yao yi zhi zu gan da fan zhen quan ren.
Originally posted by googoomuck:You are that monkey. Who in EH is interested in your superstitious religion?
How is buddhism superstitious???
I think this topic make issue worse and accuse people wrongly
I concur
I kinda remember a certain forumer up here, using this line: "Its because people like you that no one will go to church blah blah blah blah blah".
Something about using religion as a personal attack tool on some other conversations and so on.
So yah....I concur with the TS, that as practitioner of your own faith, do be more courteous to other religion and stop going in to bash whatever you think you understand when actually you are making your ownself looks like a barking mad dog.
Originally posted by bohiruci:Note to all Buddhist to practice Universal Restraint
I noticed a trend that some Buddhist go to Forum E to bash the other religion people
Its still goes back to the "My Religion shouldnt be ridiculed " mentality .That is still a form of attachment which must be eliminated to have inner peace
We knows everyone have affinity , the higher affinity will be Buddhist in this lifetime ,while others is other religion .We should learn to restraint from bashing other people religion because that isnt our business .
Just as Shantideva in <<Entering the Bodhisattva way of life >> says ,"we cant carpeted the whole ground in the world with carpet but we can cushion the pain with our two piece of cut-out portion for food
Shantideva also raised that no hatred must be beared even when Buddhist establishment is destroyed in the crowd of unruly mob and anti-Buddhist ,for no words of hatred should be established.
His words truly exemplified in H H .Dalai Lama atitude towards the Communist China
So , forummer ,spend more wholesome time in discussion of Buddhism then fighting in narrow alleys of views and be a realised person who influenced alot then a few .
and those joker who comes to our forum to be "monkey"
we must emulate the spirit of Mahatma Gandhi when he start passive disobedience with the British in South Africa against the Rule of allowing Police to enter Indian house without a warrant
"we must have the courage to contain their anger "
Mindful of our mind when we post here. Noting of whatever we post here, will it helps and can benefit people?
I think it is important that we be mindful and watch our mind first before actually wanting to help others to contain anger. We are not perfect people but at least we can try to avoid acting out on bad intention.
Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:Well, I am there partly is to correct the wrong views on Buddhism and partly to get some answers from them. Reasons because I am a non Christian in a Christian family. However, there is an unwritten rule in my family, meaning little or no discussion of religion to avoid conflicts. So, the only way is to get answers from them in order for me to speak the same frequency with my family members.
For example, some ignorant people at EH claimed that disasters will only hit Buddhist countries. So, I have to point out to them, The Black Death in 1349 and Spanish Flu in 1918 killed millions of Americans and European. If no one there to clarify, others will think that is true.
The world did not start from the day we were born, they have to look beyond the period we are living, the history of man-kind.
Many unblievers are taken in by signs of the end of the world (floods, war in the middle east, diseases etc). If one were to look at the history of man-kind, one will know that these signs are happening throughout the history of man-kind and won't be taken in by them.
I understand you feel anguished when people use a natural phenomena to attack your beliefs. However, as long as your mind is clouded, it is sometimes difficult to put forward your views in balanced manner, also the group"feel" that is at the forum. I did not see your post but I bet you are "pounced at" left and right. Have any of your points gotten across?
Practice loving kindness and compassion first, start with people you like and with people you have neutral feelings to. When magnanimity widens, your wisdom will arise!
Originally posted by Weychin:
I understand you feel anguished when people use a natural phenomena to attack your beliefs. However, as long as your mind is clouded, it is sometimes difficult to put forward your views in balanced manner, also the group"feel" that is at the forum. I did not see your post but I bet you are "pounced at" left and right. Have any of your points gotten across? Practice loving kindness and compassion first, start with people you like and with people you have neutral feelings to. When magnanimity widens, your wisdom will arise!
Well, I invite you to go there to have a look at my posts, no personal attack at all. I am not angry at all and I do not feel that it is an attack when he questioned the natural pheonomena. It seems that I have no problem with anybody at EH except googoomuck who has problems with everybody, not just me. Sometimes, facts hurt.
Anyway, I chatted at other forums, usually the topics are open for discussions regardless of religion. So, newcomers will also think that all the topics here are open to everybody because when you click TOPICS, all the topics appear.
What "your people, my people"? I guess it will be best if EH states strictly for Christians so one will know others are not allowed.
Some bad eggs among the good ones.
Some very extreme and very protective towards their religions.
Some just cannot accept the defeats.
They are some.
Dont get anger over them.
Calm mind will see better judgement.
Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
How is it superstitious at all?
You see the problem now ? Sometimes I don't blame others for not being gracious when replying to people like that. Afterall, to master the technique of tolerance takes years. Pardon us, we are all beginners.
Originally posted by laurence82:Then u and your lot leh? Notorious for bashing other religions
I don't go to the extent of bashing on other forums. I only bash in my own territory :D
Originally posted by Larryteo:I don't go to the extent of bashing on other forums. I only bash in my own territory :D
you doing wrong, doesnt matter where you do it