Originally posted by Rooney9:its hard to prove as human words can tend to be exagerration. hearsay this kind of things, take it with a pinch of salt.
It is true that what I know is hearsay but there are Dharma talks and Buddhist books on this ：the spirit will go away if one �掌chant Amitabha.
Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:It is true that what I know is hearsay but there are Dharma talks and Buddhist books on this ：the spirit will go away if one �掌chant Amitabha.
can also chant the parittas like ratana or metta sutra.
can chant any sutra, such as Mangala sutra for example? is it effective against evil spirit? is chanting Namo Buddhasa enough?
I remember about cyclist drowning at Ubin and they could'nt find the body, the monks from the Buddhist temple at Ubin chanting some paritas or someone the body floated!
The documentary was shown on ch 8 many years ago !
Originally posted by Rooney9:can chant any sutra, such as Mangala sutra for example? is it effective against evil spirit? is chanting Namo Buddhasa enough?
I'm not too sure about that. I know the person being possessed chanting Amitabha is also only a temporary measure because the spirit is afraid of the holy light when the person is chanting. It will be back if the person is not chanting.
Thus, it will be better if the person continue to chant frequently (the person chanting will have permanent 佛光). The best is to get a monk to 超度 the spirit, meaning transferring merits or appease the spirit so that it can be reborn in a better realm. I heard it will be very difficult to get the person who possessed cured if the spirit stayed in that person's body for too long.
Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:
I'm not too sure about that. I know the person being possessed chanting Amitabha is also only a temporary measure because the spirit is afraid of the holy light when the person is chanting. It will be back if the person is not chanting.Thus, it will be better if the person continue to chant frequently (the person chanting will have permanent 佛光). The best is to get a monk to 超度 the spirit, meaning transferring merits or appease the spirit so that it can be reborn in a better realm. I heard it will be very difficult to get the person who possessed cured if the spirit stayed in that person's body for too long.
if the spirit is his/her enemies in past lives (worse if it was being killed), it can be quite difficult. can ask the monks to mediate, but if the spirit does not listen, also no use.
Originally posted by Rooney9:if the spirit is his/her enemies in past lives (worse if it was being killed), it can be quite difficult. can ask the monks to mediate, but if the spirit does not listen, also no use.
Especially if the spirit want you for company for eternity.
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Especially if the spirit want you for company for eternity.
Yes, i agree. herzog, you heard of any such case?
Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:It is true that what I know is hearsay but there are Dharma talks and Buddhist books on this ：the spirit will go away if one �掌chant Amitabha.
Sometimes when I work very very late at night and alone.
And feel someone looking at you or something strange...then I will chant Amitabha/or Namo Guanshiyin Pusa (spelling mistake)....and it really works.
Originally posted by Rooney9:if the spirit is his/her enemies in past lives (worse if it was being killed), it can be quite difficult. can ask the monks to mediate, but if the spirit does not listen, also no use.
Share with you guys some of the interesting hearsay stories about people being possessed. I did not see them myself :
1) My colleague's uncle was possessed by 2 spirits who claimed he killed their whole family in his past life. I told her about chanting Amitabha but I don't think she believed what I said because she is a Christian.
2) My friend's neighbour flat's door is directly facing the lift. So, a lady staying in this house was possessed by an old soul. She would buy English oldies and danced cha cha, rock and roll in her house when she was possessed. 2 taoist mediums went to her house to negotiate with the spirit but the spirit said it would not leave the body. She ended up in mental hospital.
3) My uncle was possessed. By what I really don't know. He crawled and ate like a dog and asked anybody who visited him to save him. I did not visit him because my family members didn't allow. According to them, it is better to let somebody who knows how to handle the spirit or else it is better that others not to interfere because the spirit will look for anybody who gets in their way.
Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:
Share with you guys some of the interesting hearsay stories about people being possessed. I did not see them myself :1) My colleague's uncle was possessed by 2 spirits who claimed he killed their whole family in his past life. I told her about chanting Amitabha but I don't think she believed what I said because she is a Christian.
2) My friend's neighbour flat's door is directly facing the lift. So, a lady staying in this house was possessed by an old soul. She would buy English oldies and danced cha cha, rock and roll in her house when she was possessed. 2 taoist mediums went to her house to negotiate with the spirit but the spirit said it would not leave the body. She ended up in mental hospital.
3) My uncle was possessed. By what I really don't know. He crawled and ate like a dog and asked anybody who visited him to save him. I did not visit him because my family members didn't allow. According to them, it is better to let somebody who knows how to handle the spirit or else it is better that others not to interfere because the spirit will look for anybody who gets in their way.
That is terrible....when being possessed, it is very sway and bad luck.
Originally posted by Fantagf:
Yes, i agree. herzog, you heard of any such case?
depending in which religion you are from? if you are christian, then you seek help from Jesus or god lor.
for buddhists, seek the monks help for mediation. if mediation doesnt help, then its likely the spirit is seeking revenge for the wrong you did to him/her in one of your past lives, if you believe in rebirth.
Originally posted by likeyou:That is terrible....when being possessed, it is very sway and bad luck.
Yeah, except for my uncle who recovered fully from the possessed. The others which I know of all ended up in mental hospital.
Originally posted by Rooney9:depending in which religion you are from? if you are christian, then you seek help from Jesus or god lor.
for buddhists, seek the monks help for mediation. if mediation doesnt help, then its likely the spirit is seeking revenge for the wrong you did to him/her in one of your past lives, if you believe in rebirth.
Is 超度 the only thing the monk can help in this case? Asking for those who need this sort of service, chanting - how much must people pay for this?
If like you said, if the spirit wants revenge, then what can buddhists do to send the spirit away?
They will seek tanke...I ever saw a tanke (after midnite), one guy carry an wooden ambrella, one guy hit the dong, the tanke drag a long metal chain.
Look very chilly.
Originally posted by Fantagf:
Is 超度 the only thing the monk can help in this case? Asking for those who need this sort of service, chanting - how much must people pay for this?If like you said, if the spirit wants revenge, then what can buddhists do to send the spirit away?
No, what I know the monks have other ways besides 超度.If the spirit is too fierce, they will "catch" the spirit instead of the soft approach. Usually the monk will just take "ang pao", any amount will do. It is better to send the spirit away as soon as possible, any delay is no good for the person who is possessed.
chant ratana sutra and other power sutras and parittas. usually the devas will descend and the spirit will leave the body once it see the devas coming. try metta sutra (loving kindness), it works and will permeate the whole place with loving kindness.
Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:No, what I know the monks have other ways besides 超度.If the spirit is too fierce, they will "catch" the spirit instead of the soft approach. Usually the monk will just take "ang pao", any amount will do. It is better to send the spirit away as soon as possible, any delay is no good for the person who is possessed.
Beware of faked monk.
yes there are a lot of fake monks out there driving mercedes, wearing rolex watches. they usually go chanting during funeral services and charge from 1k onwards.
Originally posted by Rooney9:yes there are a lot of fake monks out there driving mercedes, wearing rolex watches. they usually go chanting during funeral services and charge from 1k onwards.
Yes faked monk when chant, their eye can see girls too.!
Last time when my dad pass away, we engaged a monk, he chanted until he cried also.....and cried very loudly until I also cry very loudly).
Originally posted by likeyou:
Yes faked monk when chant, their eye can see girls too.!
Last time when my dad pass away, we engaged a monk, he chanted until he cried also.....and cried very loudly until I also cry very loudly).
which temple is he from? how much your family paid him?
Originally posted by Rooney9:which temple is he from? how much your family paid him?
The group from Kulai...haka....when he lead me and my siblings...he will walk in front and in cirle, after 1 circle, he will cried and cried....in fact he really cried until eye red.
Originally posted by likeyou:The group from Kulai...haka....when he lead me and my siblings...he will walk in front and in cirle, after 1 circle, he will cried and cried....in fact he really cried until eye red.
how much ur family paid him? whats kulai, never heard before?
Originally posted by Rooney9:chant ratana sutra and other power sutras and parittas. usually the devas will descend and the spirit will leave the body once it see the devas coming. try metta sutra (loving kindness), it works and will permeate the whole place with loving kindness.
can use speakers n play the paritta mp3 will work anot..dunno how to chant in pali or sanskrit
Originally posted by Rooney9:how much ur family paid him? whats kulai, never heard before?
I am not sure how much, more than 18 yr ago. Kulai from Johore.