Thai Buddhist Medium
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Originally posted by likeyou:
Most of the tangke has this.Sorry if I am mistaken, most of "work" done is with assistance of the Generals, which I was given impression that they are "yin" gods, not celestial ones. They only have access in the human realm and the underworld.
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there were sutra that talked about devas such as the 4 heavenly kings, king sakka and his retinue. any other devas which were mentioned in the sutra as well?
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They are available as parittas or protection (spells?):-
DhajjagaSutta, Atanatiya Sutta
8. ATANATIYA SUTTA
The Discourse on Atanatiya
On one occasion, Lord Buddha was staying on the Vulture's Peak near Rajagaha. And four great kings, the guardian spirits of four quarters in the celestial regions, came to tell the Buddha that there were many demons in the land who neither believing in the Buddha nor abiding by the Five Precepts, frightened and attacked the disciple-monks and lay devotees who retire to lonely places for meditation.
Therefore the great king Vessavanna (or Kuvera) wanted to present the Atanata paritta to the Lord that it may be recited to make the displeased demons to be pleased; and consequently the monks, nuns, lay devotees may be at ease, guarded, protected and unharmed.
The Lord Buddha gave consent by his silence to approve the recitation of the said discourse. So King Vessavanna recited this paritta sutta.
Then the four great kings departed. When the night had passed the Buddha addressed the monks to learn the Atanata paritta by heart, to constantly use of it, and to bear it in mind.
This Atanata paritta pertains to the welfare of mankind and by virtue of it all the disciples and lay devotees can live at ease, guarded, protected and unharmed.
According to the commentary, King Vessvannahad a town called Atanata where the four great kings of the celestial regions assembled and recited thisParitta. Hence this discourse is known as Atanatiya Sutta.
The ancient Burmese monks who were experts in Pali language composed thirty stanzas of this sutta based upon six verses in the original text mentioned inDigha nikaya, Pathikavagga, Atanata sutta, concluding with an original verse from Dhammapada Pali (109).
7. ATANATIYA SUTTA
The Discourse on AtanatiyaIntroduction
102. In order that the hostile inhuman beings, who are always evil-doers and who do not have faith in this well-esteemed religion of the Lord (Buddha),
103. may not injure the four social classes and may protect the society from dangers, the Almighty Hero has expounded this discourse of protection. Oh thou! Let us recite this Atanata paritta now.
104. Homage to Vipassi Buddha, possessed of the eyes of enlightenment and of glory. And Homage to Sikhi Buddha, the most compassionate towards all beings.
105. Homage also to Vessabhu Buddha, washed clean from all defilements and endowed with ascetic spirit. Homage to Kakusandha Buddha too, the conqueror of the army of Death (Mara).
106. Homage to Konagamana Buddha, who had abandoned all evils and lived the holy life.
Homage also to Kassapa Buddha, who had been emancipated from all defilements.
107. Homage to Buddha Gotama, whose body shined with radiating haloe, the son of Sakyan and with splendorous glory, who expounded this doctrine which eradicates all sufferings.
108. Whosoever have extinguished the flames of passion in this world as they have seen thoroughly the natural phenomena as they really are.
These persons never slander; but they are noble, and free from fear.
109. They worship Gotama Buddha, the benefactor of gods and men, endowed with knowledge and good conduct, noble and fearless.
110. These seven and other hundred crores of self-enlightened Buddhas are all equally peerless ones.
All Buddhas are powerful ones.
111. All are endowed with ten strengths; they are equipped with courage. All these Buddhas admitted to be 'the knowers of supreme state of Enlightenment.
112. These Buddhas expound bravely to the audience like the Lion-roar; they propagate the Noble Wheel of Law in the world which cannot be done by ordinary world lings.
113. These Patrons are equipped with eighteen virtues of the Buddha's Dhamma. They are born with thirty two major characteristics and eighty minor characteristics of the great man.
114. All these Buddhas, are noble sages, who shine with the surrounding halo of about the length of one stretched-arm. These Buddhas are all Omniscient Ones; and are Conquerors of Mara (Death) who have uprooted the defilements.
115. They all are endowed with immense radiation light, of almighty power, of infinite wisdom, and of immutable strength.
They are most compassionate and industrious benefactors of all beings.
116. They all are the Islands, the Lords, the Foot-holds, the Protectors, and the Secured Haven of the creatures. The Transcendental Goals, the Relatives, the Glorious Saviours, the Refuges, and the Well-wishers.
117. They all are revered by the world of gods and men. I worship the feet of these Supreme Ones with my head.
118. I worship these Tathagatas by means of Word and thought, always; even when I am lying, sitting, standing or walking.
119. The Buddhas, the Peace-makers may always protect you to be happy.
By these Buddhas, may you be protected so that you may be liberated from all calamities.
120. May you be emancipated from all diseases.
May you be free from all scorching worries.
May you overcome all the enemies. And may you be blissful.
121. By the power of their truth, virtue, patience, loving kindness and might, they may also protect us to be healthy and happy.
122. In the eastern region there are powerful great deities (bhutas). They may also protect us to be healthy and happy.
123. In the southern region, there are great powerful gods (devas) They may also protect us to be healthy and happy.
124. In the western region there are great powerful dragon snakes (nagas). They may also protect us to be healthy and happy.
125. In the northern region there are great powerful ogres (genii yakkhas). They may also protect us to be healthy and happy.
126. King Dhatarattha in the east,
King Virulhaka in the south,
King Virupakkha in the west
King Kuvera in the north,
127. These four great kings are famous guardian spirits of the world.
They may also protect us to be healthy and happy.
128. There are great powerful gods and dragons, residing in the sky and on the earth.
They may also protect us to be healthy and happy.
129. There are some powerful deities residing within the jurisdiction of this religion.
They may also protect us to be healthy and happy.
130. May all the dangers be eradicated.
May worry and illness be dispelled.
May the calamities do not occur to you.
May you be blissful and long-lived.
131. To those who are endowed with the nature of piety and who always revere to the elders, these four boons shall prosper; namely longevity, beauty, happiness and strength.
The end of Atanatiya Sutta
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Dhajagga Sutta: The Top of the Standardtranslated from the Pali byThanissaro BhikkhuAlternate translation: Piyadassi
I have heard that on one occasion the Blessed One was staying near Savatthi in Jeta's Grove, Anathapindika's monastery. There he addressed the monks: "Monks!"
"Yes, lord!" the monks responded.
The Blessed One said: "Once, monks, the devas & asuras were arrayed for battle. ThenSakka, lord of the devas, addressed the devas of the Thirty-three: 'If, dear sirs, when the devas are engaged in battle, there should arise fear, terror, or horripilation, then on that occasion you should look up at the top of my standard. For when you look up at the top of my standard, any fear, terror, or horripilation you may have will be abandoned.
"'If you don't look up at the top of my standard, then you should look up at the top of the standard of Pajapati the deva-king. For when you look up at the top of the standard of Pajapati the deva-king, any fear, terror, or horripilation you may have will be abandoned.
"'If you don't look up at the top of the standard of Pajapati the deva-king, then you should look up at the top of the standard of Varuna the deva-king. For when you look up at the top of the standard of Varuna the deva-king, any fear, terror, or horripilation you may have will be abandoned.
"'If you don't look up at the top of the standard of Varuna the deva-king, then you should look up at the top of the standard of Isana the deva-king. For when you look up at the top of the standard of Isana the deva-king, any fear, terror, or horripilation you may have will be abandoned.
"Monks, in those who look up at the top of the standard of Sakka, lord of the devas; in those who look up at the top of the standard of Pajapati the deva-king; in those who look up at the top of the standard of Varuna, the deva-king; or in those who look up at the top of the standard of Isana, the deva-king, any fear, terror, or horripilation they may have might be abandoned, or it might not. Why is that? Because Sakka, lord of the devas, is not free of passion, free of aversion, or free of delusion. He can be frightened, terrorized, cowardly, quick to flee.
"But, monks, I tell you this: If, when you have gone to the wilderness, to the foot of a tree, or to an empty dwelling, there should arise fear, terror, or horripilation, then on that occasion you should recollect me thus: 'Indeed, the Blessed One is worthy & rightly self-awakened, consummate in knowledge & conduct, well-gone, knower of the cosmos, unexcelled trainer of those who can be tamed, teacher of devas and human beings, awakened, blessed.' For when you recollect me, monks, any fear, terror, or horripilation you may have will be abandoned.
"If you don't recollect me, then you should recollect the Dhamma thus: 'The Dhamma is well expounded by the Blessed One, to be seen here & now, timeless, inviting one to come & see, pertinent, to be seen by the wise for themselves.' For when you recollect the Dhamma, monks, any fear, terror, or horripilation you may have will be abandoned.
"If you cannot recollect the Dhamma, then you should recollect the Sangha thus: 'The Sangha of the Blessed One's disciples who have practiced well, practiced straightforwardly, practiced methodically, practiced masterfully, i. e., the four pairs, the eight-types [of Noble Ones]: that is the Sangha of the Blessed One's disciples — worthy of gifts, worthy of hospitality, worthy of offerings, worthy of respect, the unexcelled field of merit for the world.' For when you recollect the Sangha, monks, any fear, terror, or horripilation you may have will be abandoned.
"Why is that? Because the Tathagata, worthy & rightly self-awakened, is free of passion, free of aversion, free of delusion. He is fearless, cannot be terrorized, bold, not quick to flee."
This is what the Blessed One said. Having said this, the One Well-gone, the Teacher, further said this:
In wilderness, monks, at the foot of a tree, or in an empty dwelling, recollect the Buddha: You will have no fear. If you don't recall the Buddha — best in the world, the bull of men — then recollect the Dhamma, leading outward, well expounded. If you don't recall the Dhamma — leading outward, well expounded — then recollect the Sangha, the field of merit unexcelled. For those who have thus recalled the Buddha, Dhamma, & Sangha, monks, there will be no terror, horripilation, or fear. -
got pali version?
what about king sakka version?
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once you chant Atanatiya Sutta, the 4 heavenly kings or devas will come to your aid and protect you is it?
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
once you chant Atanatiya Sutta, the 4 heavenly kings or devas will come to your aid and protect you is it?
no the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse will wipe out the earth.
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Originally posted by Chin_ChinKun:
no the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse will wipe out the earth.
Wrong forum
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
Wrong forum
oh sry.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
once you chant Atanatiya Sutta, the 4 heavenly kings or devas will come to your aid and protect you is it?
According Buddhist Ceremonies and Rituals in Sri Lanka, this is a purely Buddhist exorcism ritual. There a another protection paritta , Buddha's Mansion!Personally I think is you affinity merit and karma!
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This is for those who asked for update on my friend's case. She called the shifu at Bukit Batok. Shifu did not find out what happened and jumped into conclusion that it is her mind that is the problem. She is very disappointed. I feel sorry for her.
I can understand how she feels because I ever have same experience from some shifu. These shifus very fast to indirectly show they are not interested to help by pushing blame it is the mind.
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
This is for those who asked for update on my friend's case. She called the shifu at Bukit Batok. Shifu did not find out what happened and jumped into conclusion that it is her mind that is the problem. She is very disappointed. I feel sorry for her.
I can understand how she feels because I ever have same experience from some shifu. These shifus very fast to indirectly show they are not interested to help by pushing blame it is the mind.
Is it Zhu Lin Temple at Bukit Batok? If you want, I can pm you another contact. He is reliable and I believe he will not say this to your friend. It is Buddhism.
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Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:
Is it Zhu Lin Temple at Bukit Batok? If you want, I can pm you another contact. He is reliable and I believe he will not say this to your friend. It is Buddhism.
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
I am not sure about the name of the temple
Already pm you.If it is Zu Lin Temple, I know the shifu but not well. He is a young monk in his early 30s from China. Thus, he is not very experienced in handling this kind of case. There are devotees who asked him before, he also said the same thing as to your friend.
He is specialised in chanting. Monks who know themselves not well versed in this area will not dare to handle.
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Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:
Already pm you.If it is Zu Lin Temple, I know the shifu but not well. He is a young monk in his early 30s from China. Thus, he is not very experienced in handling this kind of case. There are devotees who asked him before, he also said the same thing as to your friend.
He is specialised in chanting. Monks who know themselves not well versed in this area will not dare to handle.
I don't know if he is from Zu Lin Temple. My friend told me the guy sounds local. -
Anybody got any contacts for the real spirit medium where the medium allows the spirit to possess the body? I am not referring to those temple one.
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Originally posted by Creativity:
Anybody got any contacts for the real spirit medium where the medium allows the spirit to possess the body? I am not referring to those temple one.
Buddhism have no medium.
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Originally posted by Creativity:
Anybody got any contacts for the real spirit medium where the medium allows the spirit to possess the body? I am not referring to those temple one.
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The "Buddhist" mediums i know of as of Thai "Lersi", probably "Rishi' in Sanskrit, who are regularly summoned in religiously possession. I do not know any of such in Singapore although images of Lersi may invited back home to be worshipped.
The other is the layperson of invoking Phra Ngang, a Buddhist amulet with curved headdress and the fighting Buddha amulet, with fist and forearms covering the face. Others are the Khuman Thong, the golden child and Khun Paen. This are all of Thai origin and interwined with Thai Buddhism. One usually enshrine them and worships the amulet and place offerings. Usually possession takes place when amulet is grasped in the palms and a mantra is invoked.
The fighting Buddhas amulet originated during wars and was popular with Thai soldiers.
However, I know of occultic practices by certain individuals and some of them died young! My advice is to, if possible avoid such practices!
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My friend was possessed by those spirits. After seeking help from alot of temples and doing rituals, it seemed that he was not able to get rid of them permanently. Those spirits might leave but come back to his body again.
Now he wants to know what he owes or have promised to those spirits so he needs a real spirit medium to let the spirits possess the body so that he can find out what those spirits actually want. Anybody got any solution to this?
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seems like your friend have some karmic connections with them in one way or another, in simple speak, they were linked in previous lifetimes ago. could be your friend killed them, caused them harm, cheated them etc etc. what your friend should do is to repent and then transfer merits to them. chant metta sutra, it helps.
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Originally posted by Creativity:
My friend was possessed by those spirits. After seeking help from alot of temples and doing rituals, it seemed that he was not able to get rid of them permanently. Those spirits might leave but come back to his body again.
Now he wants to know what he owes or have promised to those spirits so he needs a real spirit medium to let the spirits possess the body so that he can find out what those spirits actually want. Anybody got any solution to this?
Have your friend taken the Three Refuges yet?
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yes my friend has taken it.
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
I am not sure about the name of the temple
Hi , If you still need on exorcist .. i can recommend nyimgma kathok khenpo .he should be able to help you ...