What if i'm not reborn as a Buddhist in my next life?
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
How do you find out about your previous life? Did you go for any hypnosis to find out?
According your bazi and then the reading from a acient book. -
Originally posted by likeyou:
According your bazi and then the reading from a acient book.
Is that what they called "Sum Sai Shu" in Cantonese?Accurate or not.
One relative went to consult about "Sum Sai Shu" for her daughter and told that her daughter will marry a man whose family owns a goldsmith shop in this life. But her daughter married a man from the army, family does not own any goldsmith shop.
I do have doubt about this.
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Not to be fully believe 100%.
For me, when young, I was told my profession will be xxx. It true, I am now working in that xxx.
Even my sister, before she single, already said that she will live very far away from home. Now she live in europe.
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Originally posted by likeyou:
Not to be fully believe 100%.
For me, when young, I was told my profession will be xxx. It true, I am now working in that xxx.
Even my sister, before she single, already said that she will live very far away from home. Now she live in europe.
Do you mind telling us which one you go to?
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
Do you mind telling us which one you go to?
I need to check my phone book...it's not with me now as I am in the office. Will let you know tonight.
Hey...you interested in reading the past life?
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Originally posted by likeyou:
I need to check my phone book...it's not with me now as I am in the office. Will let you know tonight.
Hey...you interested in reading the past life?
I am curious and don't know if there is a need to go for this sort of reading. There are people who are interested. So I think I don't mind getting the contact/ -
But dont be 100% believe lah.
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Originally posted by likeyou:
What's the different between open mind and free thinker?
^=^
And open mind listens and does'nt immediately pass out judgements.
And a free thinker, choose not to accept any hearsay.
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Originally posted by Weychin:
And open mind listens and does'nt immediately pass out judgements.
And a free thinker, choose not to accept any hearsay.
Ok thks.My friend free thinker, said all religions are rubbish and non exist.
When one die, one will be disappeared in the air. No more. Finish.
Alot worst then open mind person.
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When we die, there is no afterlife whatsoever. It will be eternal nothingness and that's it, no one will ever wake up.
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Originally posted by likeyou:
Ok thks.My friend free thinker, said all religions are rubbish and non exist.
When one die, one will be disappeared in the air. No more. Finish.
Alot worst then open mind person.
our bodies will be gone but the souls or spirits in us still live after death. -
Originally posted by likeyou:
Ok thks.My friend free thinker, said all religions are rubbish and non exist.
When one die, one will be disappeared in the air. No more. Finish.
Alot worst then open mind person.
As I have said before.
There are things science or religion can explain and there are things only yourself can explain.
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What if life is an illusion and everything was made up by someone else?
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
our bodies will be gone but the souls or spirits in us still live after death.
My friend (Free thinker) will not believe it. -
Originally posted by Larryteo:
When we die, there is no afterlife whatsoever. It will be eternal nothingness and that's it, no one will ever wake up.
The last thought you have in your last breath will decide that. That is also cumulative of what you have already done.
Sorry,I am not dead yet in this life, and I have no recollection of my past life, so I can't verify to you with any certainty.
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Originally posted by Larryteo:
When we die, there is no afterlife whatsoever. It will be eternal nothingness and that's it, no one will ever wake up.
I hope it is like what you said, when we die, it is eternal nothingness but the problem is : it is not like that. I have some personal experiences, there is afterlife and I hate the fact that there is afterlife but cannot deny it.I have a friend who told me he hates the creator who created him, if there is really a creator.
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Originally posted by likeyou:
According your bazi and then the reading from a acient book.
Tell you a joke, I have a friend who went to see 三世书, the person told her she was a monkey at 峨嵋山in China.
Very funny hor.Anyway, I have no interest in knowing my past life because it does not help me in anyway.
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Originally posted by Larryteo:
When we die, there is no afterlife whatsoever. It will be eternal nothingness and that's it, no one will ever wake up.
- Not only is there countless practitioners since Buddha's times, till today, even people in this forum, who have remembered their past lives, there is actually scientific proof for past lives.
- From http://www.buddhanet.net/qanda.htm
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- You say that talk about devils is superstitious. Isn't talk about rebirth a bit superstitious too?
- The dictionary defines superstition as a belief which is not based on reason or fact but on an association of ideas, as in magic. If you can show me a careful study of the existence of devils written by a scientist I will concede that belief in devils is not superstition. But I have never heard of any research into devils; scientists simply wouldn’t bother to study such things, so I say there is no evidence for the existence of devils. But as we have just seen, there is evidence which seems to suggest that rebirth does take place. So if belief in rebirth is based on at least some facts, it cannot be a superstition.
- You have talked a lot about rebirth but is there any proof that we will be reborn when we die?
- Not only is
there scientific evidence to support Buddhist belief in rebirth,
it is the
only after-life theory that has any evidence to support it. There
is not
a scrap of evidence to prove the existence of heaven and of course
evidence
of annihilation at death must be lacking. But during the last 30
years parapsychologists
have been studying reports that some people have vivid memories of
their
former lives. For example, in England, a 5 year old girl said she
could
remember her other mother and father and she talked vividly about
what sounded
like the events in the life of another person. Parapsychologists
were called
in and asked her hundreds of questions to which she gave answers.
She spoke
of living in a particular village, in what appeared to be Spain.
She gave
the name of the village, the name of the street she lived in, her
neighbours’
names and details about her everyday life there. she also
tearfully spoke
of how she had been struck by a car and died of her injuries two
days later.
When these details were checked, they were found to be accurate.
There was
a village in Spain with the name the child had given. There was a
house
of the type she had described in the street she had named. What is
more,
it was found that a 23 year old woman living in the house had been
killed
in a car accident five years before.
Now how is it possible for a five year old living in England who had never been to Spain to know all these details? And of course, this is not the only case of this type. Professor Ian Stevenson of the University of Virginia’s Department of Psychology has described dozens of cases of this type in his books. He is an accredited scientist whose 25 year study of people who remember former lives is very strong evidence for the Buddhist teaching of rebirth.
- Well, have there ever been any scientists who believe in rebirth?
- Yes. Thomas
Huxley, who was responsible for having science introduced into the
19th
century British school system and who was the first scientist to
defend
Darwin’s theories, believed that reincarnation was a very
plausible
idea. In his famous book "Evolution and Ethics and other Essays",
he says:
"In the doctrine of transmigration, whatever its origin, Brahmanical and Buddhist speculation found, ready to hand, the means of constructing a plausible vindication of the ways of the Cosmos to man....yet this plea of justification is not less plausible than others; and none but very hasty thinkers will reject it on the ground of inherent absurdity. Like the doctrine of evolution itself, that of transmigration has its roots in the world of reality; and it may claim such support as the great argument from analogy is capable of supplying".
Then, Professor Gust Stromberg, the famous Swedish astronomer, physicist and friend of Einstein also found the idea of rebirth appealing:
"Opinions differ whether human souls can be reincarnated on the earth or not. In 1936 a very interesting case was thoroughly investigated and reported by the government authorities in India. A girl (Shanti Devi from Deli) could accurately describe her previous life (at Muttra, five hundred miles from Deli) which ended about a year before her 'second birth'. She gave the name of her husband and child and described her home and life history. The investigating commission brought her to her former relatives, who verified all her statements. Among the people of India reincarnations are regarded as commonplace; the astonishing thing for them in this case was the great number of facts the girl remembered. This and similar cases can be regarded as additional evidence for the theory of the indestructibility of memory".
Professor Julian Huxley, the distinguished British scientist who was Director General of UNESCO believed that rebirth was quite in harmony with scientific thinking:
"There is nothing against a permanently surviving spirit-individuality being in some way given off at death, as a definite wireless message is given off by a sending apparatus working in a particular ways. But it must be remembered that the wireless message only becomes a message again when it comes in contact with a new, material structure - the receiver. So with our possible spirit-emanation. It would never think or feel unless again "embodied" in some way. our personalities are so based on body that it is really impossible to think of survival which would be in any true sense personal without a body of sorts. I can think of something being given off which could bear the same relation to men and women as a wireless message to the transmitting apparatus for mind".
Even very practical and down-to-earth people like the American industrialist Henry Ford found the idea of rebirth acceptable. Ford was attracted to the idea of rebirth because, unlike the theistic idea or the materialistic idea, rebirth gives you a second chance to develop yourself. Henry Ford says:
"I adopted the theory of Reincarnation when I was twenty six. Religion offered nothing to the point. Even work could not give me complete satisfaction. Work is futile if we cannot utilise the experience we collect in one life in the next. When I discovered Reincarnation it was as if I had found a universal plan I realised that there was a chance to work out my ideas. Time was no longer limited. I was no longer a slave to the hands of the clock. Genius is experience. Some seem to think that it is a gift or talent, but it is the fruit of long experience in many lives. Some are older souls than others, and so they know more. The discovery of Reincarnation put my mind at ease. If you preserve a record of this conversation, write it so that it puts men’s minds at ease. I would like to communicate to others the calmness that the long view of life gives to us".
So the Buddhist teachings of rebirth does have some scientific evidence to support it. It is logically consistent and it goes a long way in answering questions what the theistic and the materialistic theories fail to . It is also very comforting. What can be worse than a theory of life that gives you no second chance, no opportunity to amend the mistakes you have made in this life and no time to further develop the skills and abilities you have nurtured in this life. But according to the Buddha, if you fail to attain Nirvana in this life, you will have the opportunity to try again next time. If you have made mistakes in this life, you will be able to correct yourself in the next life. You will truly be able to learn from your mistakes. Things you were unable to do or achieve in this life may well become possible in the next life. What a wonderful teaching!
- Not only is there countless practitioners since Buddha's times, till today, even people in this forum, who have remembered their past lives, there is actually scientific proof for past lives.
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Following is an interesting video clip on reincarnation of an eleven year old American boy who could recall his past life. He could remember the names of his family members and an old friend.
The ultimate aim of Buddhists is not to be reborn again. I have many friends who don't understand this, they thought every Buddhists hope to have a good rebirth. -
AN ETERNAL NOW...................many many thanks ...................
i hope i can be a rock in my next life...............LOL................no headaches and worries...........
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AEN wrote:
"There is nothing against a permanently surviving spirit-individuality being in some way given off at death, as a definite wireless message is given off by a sending apparatus working in a particular ways. But it must be remembered that the wireless message only becomes a message again when it comes in contact with a new, material structure - the receiver. So with our possible spirit-emanation. It would never think or feel unless again "embodied" in some way. our personalities are so based on body that it is really impossible to think of survival which would be in any true sense personal without a body of sorts. I can think of something being given off which could bear the same relation to men and women as a wireless message to the transmitting apparatus for mind".
I am leaning towards this theory, and and "message" is not soul or spirit, but cling conciousness, with your characteristics, that is received by the pineal gland at birth and released at death. Sort of a "spark" or first/last burst of energy release.
Hauntings are also probably images or sensations of residual cling conciousness trapped by abnormal magnetic fields.
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Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:
Following is an interesting video clip on reincarnation of an eleven year old American boy who could recall his past life. He could remember the names of his family members and an old friend.
The ultimate aim of Buddhists is not to be reborn again. I have many friends who don't understand this, they thought every Buddhists hope to have a good rebirth.Interesting clip!,Thanks!
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As far as I know... as long as you are good, the teaching do not ask you to believe in anything unless you are talking about taoism.... so, being a muslim or christian or a taoist do not defer you from the religion as all teaches good things... so what are you thinking?
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You do realise that ''past lives'' can be explained by science as highly unreliable right? There is no need for proof of heaven, devils, or demons since none of them exist.
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Originally posted by caleb_chiang:
As far as I know... as long as you are good, the teaching do not ask you to believe in anything unless you are talking about taoism.... so, being a muslim or christian or a taoist do not defer you from the religion as all teaches good things... so what are you thinking?
Unlike other religion, Buddhism is not just about doing good deeds. It teaches you how to deal with and lesson sufferings in life. Most importantly, not to be reborn again in the 6 realm.