Clarifications on misconception on Buddhism
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Hi moderator,
I hope to be allowed a thread to allow Buddhists to clear up misconceptions, falsehoods, half truths and sometimes downright lies, without side forays into other religions.
We are all sensitive to comments to our beliefs. So unless it is a direct comparision, avoid commenting on other religions. Too much emotional words, we could get this thread removed too.
Please consider my request.
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Here are two links for you contemplation:-
http://www.what-buddha-taught.net/Books6/Dhammananda_Buddhist_Attitude_towards_other_Religions.pdf
http://www.buddhanet.net/budsas/ebud/beyond/beyond01.htm
The first is titled "Buddhism attitude towardsother religions"
The second is title "Beyond belief", it aims to clarify misconceptions christians have on Buddhism.
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What is going on here ? Threads regarding Rony have been deleted again and again at Wisdom Bliss while threads regarding Rony at Eternal Hope is there to stay.
Is the moderator inviting all the Buddhists to go to Eternal Hope to voice our views there ?
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What is wrong with having thread to clear doubts, misconceptions and so on, what is wrong with the mod? She is just too much.
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Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:
What is going on here ? Threads regarding Rony have been deleted again and again at Wisdom Bliss while threads regarding Rony at Eternal Hope is there to stay.
Is the moderator inviting all the Buddhists to go to Eternal Hope to voice our views there ?
May be the mod receives bribery. She very tao hong char bor. -
Originally posted by Fantagf:
May be the mod receives bribery. She very tao hong char bor.Any idea is she a Christian ?
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Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:
Any idea is she a Christian ?
I am not sure but she does not sound like one. She has bad sense of judgement.Never mind, if removes again we will just start another thread to discuss.
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What the Buddha really said before he passed away
12 Feb 2010 - Temasek Review
By U Aung Mein
As a (Theravadin) Buddhist, I thank Pastor Rony Tan for giving me the opportunity here to address some common misconceptions about Buddhism.[1]
During a session conducted by Pastor Tan to his congregation, he said that Buddha still “could not find the Way” before he passed away and in the end it was “Jesus who showed Buddha the Way.”
According to the Pali Canon, the earliest historical records of the Buddha’s teachings, the Buddha passed away in 483 B.C., 483 years before the birth of (Jesus) Christ.
The events leading to the passing of the Buddha can be found in the Mahaparanibbana Sutta of the Digha Nikaya.
At the age of 80, the Buddha announced that he would soon reach Parinibbana or the final deathless state abandoning the earthly body.
The Buddha taught that all sentinent beings (including human beings) are subjected to an infinite cycles of births, aging, sickness and death and the only way to extricate oneself out of this “mass of suffering” completely is to attain Nibbana [2] (Enlightenment) through the practice of meditation as documented in detail here. It can be attained in this life here and now so long one strives for it.
Technically speaking, Buddhism is not a religion but simply a method/way to put a stop to dukkha or suffering once and for all. The Buddha did not demand everybody to follow his teachings which can be questioned, debated and challenged.
Before he passed away, the Buddha asked his disciples if they had any questions for him:
“It may be, bhikkhus (monks), that one of you is in doubt or perplexity as to the Buddha, the Dhamma, or the Sangha, the path or the practice. Then question, bhikkhus! Do not be given to remorse later on with the thought: ‘The Master was with us face to face, yet face to face we failed to ask him.”
But when this was said for the first, ssecond and third time, the bhikkhus were silent.
A disciple and attendant of the Buddha Venerable Ananda spoke to the Blessed One, saying:
“Marvellous it is, O Lord, most wonderful it is! This faith I have in the community of bhikkhus, that not even one bhikkhu is in doubt or perplexity as to the Buddha, the Dhamma, or the Sangha, the path or the practice.”
The Buddha replied:
“Out of faith, Ananda, you speak thus. But here, Ananda, the Tathagata (Buddha) knows for certain that among this community of bhikkhus there is not even one bhikkhu who is in doubt or perplexity as to the Buddha, the Dhamma (Buddha’s teachings), or the Sangha (community of monks), the path or the practice. For, Ananda, among these five hundred bhikkhus even the lowest is a stream-enterer, secure from downfall, assured, and bound for enlightenment.”
And the Blessed One addressed the bhikkhus, saying:
“Behold now, bhikkhus, I exhort you: Transient are all compounded things, strive on with diligence!”
These were the last words of the Buddha.
Addendum:
[1]: There are two major schools of Buddhism today – Theravada and Mahayana.
[2]: Nibbana is also known as Nirvana in Sanskrit.
EDITORS’ NOTE:
If you encounter the “duplicate post” error when posting comments on our site, post again by clicking on the “submit” button and hold it for at least 5 seconds. We are still working to resolve the problem and we appeal for your kind understanding and patience.
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
I am not sure but she does not sound like one. She has bad sense of judgement.Never mind, if removes again we will just start another thread to discuss.
I think she is hinting us to go Eternal Hope to talk face to face with Christians. Not a bad idea ah !
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
What the Buddha really said before he passed away
12 Feb 2010 - Temasek Review
By U Aung Mein
As a (Theravadin) Buddhist, I thank Pastor Rony Tan for giving me the opportunity here to address some common misconceptions about Buddhism.[1]
During a session conducted by Pastor Tan to his congregation, he said that Buddha still “could not find the Way” before he passed away and in the end it was “Jesus who showed Buddha the Way.”
According to the Pali Canon, the earliest historical records of the Buddha’s teachings, the Buddha passed away in 483 B.C., 483 years before the birth of (Jesus) Christ.
The events leading to the passing of the Buddha can be found in the Mahaparanibbana Sutta of the Digha Nikaya.
At the age of 80, the Buddha announced that he would soon reach Parinibbana or the final deathless state abandoning the earthly body.
The Buddha taught that all sentinent beings (including human beings) are subjected to an infinite cycles of births, aging, sickness and death and the only way to extricate oneself out of this “mass of suffering” completely is to attain Nibbana [2] (Enlightenment) through the practice of meditation as documented in detail here. It can be attained in this life here and now so long one strives for it.
Technically speaking, Buddhism is not a religion but simply a method/way to put a stop to dukkha or suffering once and for all. The Buddha did not demand everybody to follow his teachings which can be questioned, debated and challenged.
Before he passed away, the Buddha asked his disciples if they had any questions for him:
“It may be, bhikkhus (monks), that one of you is in doubt or perplexity as to the Buddha, the Dhamma, or the Sangha, the path or the practice. Then question, bhikkhus! Do not be given to remorse later on with the thought: ‘The Master was with us face to face, yet face to face we failed to ask him.”
But when this was said for the first, ssecond and third time, the bhikkhus were silent.
A disciple and attendant of the Buddha Venerable Ananda spoke to the Blessed One, saying:
“Marvellous it is, O Lord, most wonderful it is! This faith I have in the community of bhikkhus, that not even one bhikkhu is in doubt or perplexity as to the Buddha, the Dhamma, or the Sangha, the path or the practice.”
The Buddha replied:
“Out of faith, Ananda, you speak thus. But here, Ananda, the Tathagata (Buddha) knows for certain that among this community of bhikkhus there is not even one bhikkhu who is in doubt or perplexity as to the Buddha, the Dhamma (Buddha’s teachings), or the Sangha (community of monks), the path or the practice. For, Ananda, among these five hundred bhikkhus even the lowest is a stream-enterer, secure from downfall, assured, and bound for enlightenment.”
And the Blessed One addressed the bhikkhus, saying:
“Behold now, bhikkhus, I exhort you: Transient are all compounded things, strive on with diligence!”
These were the last words of the Buddha.
Addendum:
[1]: There are two major schools of Buddhism today – Theravada and Mahayana.
[2]: Nibbana is also known as Nirvana in Sanskrit.
EDITORS’ NOTE:
If you encounter the “duplicate post” error when posting comments on our site, post again by clicking on the “submit” button and hold it for at least 5 seconds. We are still working to resolve the problem and we appeal for your kind understanding and patience.
Wow, you are fast! I am impressed!
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Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:
I think she is hinting us to go Eternal Hope to talk face to face with Christians. Not a bad idea ah !
That is not an appropriate place discuss buddhism on this issue. That place has too many unobjective christians who will attack at any time. As it is I was already personally attacked in one forum : SG: Life in a dot from a christian called Wacky Sung on no reasonable ground. -
Originally posted by Weychin:
Hi moderator,
I hope to be allowed a thread to allow Buddhists to clear up misconceptions, falsehoods, half truths and sometimes downright lies, without side forays into other religions.
We are all sensitive to comments to our beliefs. So unless it is a direct comparision, avoid commenting on other religions. Too much emotional words, we could get this thread removed too.
Please consider my request.
You are also very fast.
WE BUDDHISTS ARE NO PUSHOVER
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE AT WISDOM BLISS !
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Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:
Wow, you are fast! I am impressed!
Just happen to come across this in Temasek Review.I am afraid if threads on clarification , discussion on Buddhism on the Rony's case is close again and again, this sgforums may be out in newspaper, journalists may just put up article to speak on bias approach by mod of this sgforums to remove thread over and over again.
Previously, the chinese newspapers published articles on threads in sgforums.
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More info for our contempt, religion is the root cause of all evil in this world. Such mindless info is what builds an ignorant and decieved society that Buddhism and other religions are peaceful.
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
More info for our contempt, religion is the root cause of all evil in this world. Such mindless info is what builds an ignorant and decieved society that Buddhism and other religions are peaceful.
YOu are confused between religions and persons. REligions are there to help improve human beings. -
Originally posted by Fantagf:
Just happen to come across this in Temasek Review.I am afraid if threads on clarification , discussion on Buddhism on the Rony's case is close again and again, this sgforums may be out in newspaper, journalists may just put up article to speak on bias approach by mod of this sgforums to remove thread over and over again.
Previously, the chinese newspapers published articles on threads in sgforums.
Oh really, what did the chinese newspaper talk about ? It is really unreasonable to delete again and again. No reason for her to do that unless she is from Rony's church, trying to cover up for him. -
i assure, fifi is not christian, lest even from rony's church
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
YOu are confused between religions and persons. REligions are there to help improve human beings.
Religion is there to degrade human beings. I am not confused, but stating facts for facts. -
Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:
Oh really, what did the chinese newspaper talk about ? It is really unreasonable to delete again and again. No reason for her to do that unless she is from Rony's church, trying to cover up for him.
Previously, i read in sgforums (someone posted) that the chinese papers spoke about how forumers here respond to one thread posted here. Cannot remember in details. I am surprised the Chinese reporters really go to extent to screen sgforums. -
today newspapers is on hwz
its not fair hwz got all the attention!
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What is there to clarify?
Oh those bluff people money one? those any religion also got. pastor misuing their power of speech, their power of utilising money and funds, reverend using donation money to help a foreign friend buy house, santanists in disguise and wannabe raping girls and killing animals, toaists with their trance dance molesting and raping girls, extremists strapping bombs to the blaze of glory?
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
Previously, i read in sgforums (someone posted) that the chinese papers spoke about how forumers here respond to one thread posted here. Cannot remember in details. I am surprised the Chinese reporters really go to extent to screen sgforums.
Never mind. for every action there is equal and opposite reaction. those chinese papers r like that one. better publishbig big -
Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:
I think she is hinting us to go Eternal Hope to talk face to face with Christians. Not a bad idea ah !
limpeh go there tok what? go there might as well meet up and hoot already -
Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:
What is going on here ? Threads regarding Rony have been deleted again and again at Wisdom Bliss while threads regarding Rony at Eternal Hope is there to stay.
Is the moderator inviting all the Buddhists to go to Eternal Hope to voice our views there ?
because no one take legal actions against pastor pasta, that's why the thread there stays. if just one buddhism organization initiate the act i tell youpastor pasta need to change his underwear at least 6x a day. -
Please everybody! Less words of anger, more on constructive criticism!
This is a sensitive topic, let us all thread gently! Don't let this be a us vs them issue!
Let the government do its job, the moderators theirs, and we, mindful that we don't let it degenerate to bashing thread!
Please allow clarity of mind to prevail, tap your anger and frustration to engage constructively!