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• Dawnfirstlight

  24 Aug 10, 23:07

  Originally posted by -StarDust-:

  
  U seem like to be against me today. Converting to christian works . My church gt some converts like this no more such eyes.

  Let's not argue anymore.

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  I think you should read this book " The Boy Who Talks To Ghost". You can find this book in Popular Book Shop. I think this boy is a Singaporean. He has 3rd eye and from a Christian family. His mother brought him to Buddhist shifu to close his 3rd eye.

• 2009novice

  25 Aug 10, 00:04

  Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:

  I think you should read this book " The Boy Who Talks To Ghost". You can find this book in Popular Book Shop. I think this boy is a Singaporean. He has 3rd eye and from a Christian family. His mother brought him to Buddhist shifu to close his 3rd eye.

  
  3rd eye sound fascinating... but why close it? Can see "them" and be more mindful of own actions...

• wisdomeye

  25 Aug 10, 04:13

  stardust,

  It is the practitioners who can't see the whole picture.

• Dawnfirstlight

  25 Aug 10, 07:44

  Originally posted by -StarDust-:

  Since My ID got discovered by AEN.

  My Church believes that christians after baptism will no longer see it.

  We do have some ex christians who sees ghosts/evil spirits before.

   

  So, you believe  that ghosts exist. I thought Christians say they are not ghosts but evil spirits. By listening to the links, they are proven to be ghosts (humans who died and become ghosts) and not evil spirits.

• Dawnfirstlight

  25 Aug 10, 07:46

  Originally posted by 2009novice:

  
  3rd eye sound fascinating... but why close it? Can see "them" and be more mindful of own actions...

  The book did not say why but I guess may be it is because of their religion. The boy can communicate with his younger sister who died at young age.

• Amitayus48

  25 Aug 10, 08:11

  IMO, all religions are wonderful as they rise to heaven in this lifespan. Buddhism is a teaching to recover back Buddha nature same as Buddha Sakyamuni. Many master always reminded practitioners to only compare ourselves with Buddha, the highest achiever. Like when we take a flight and look down on earth, earth or ourselves is so small and unnoticeable. My thinking is that if one converts or more appropriately and sweetly to state that other aspects of teachings is best suited him/her aptitude/root, all students of God/Buddha ought to respect their decision and must not brought it up openly. This is not helpful in general.

  Usually ying yang's eyes people is born with it, no problem for them as it is already a norm. What they probably wanted to understand is the rationale of this ghost realm. Ghost was human before they passed away, when they were human, people loves them, but when their karma brought them to ghost realm, the love towards them turns into doubts. It is still matter related to proper education so that all human never will be rebirth into ghost realm to atone their deeds :) May all ghosts in contact with great teachings and be liberated to the land of ultimate bliss.

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  (转自学佛网：http://www.xuefo.net/show1_27962.htm)

  Amitabha

• -StarDust-

  25 Aug 10, 09:25

  Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:

  I think you should read this book " The Boy Who Talks To Ghost". You can find this book in Popular Book Shop. I think this boy is a Singaporean. He has 3rd eye and from a Christian family. His mother brought him to Buddhist shifu to close his 3rd eye.

  
  Thanks but I don't need this book

   

   

• -StarDust-

  25 Aug 10, 09:27

  Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:

  So, you believe  that ghosts exist. I thought Christians say they are not ghosts but evil spirits. By listening to the links, they are proven to be ghosts (humans who died and become ghosts) and not evil spirits.

  
  Din u see ghosts or evil spirits?

  I use ghosts cos sometimes ppl understand them as ghosts.

  But I believe ghosts are evil spirits in disguise.

• -StarDust-

  25 Aug 10, 09:28

  Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:

  So, you believe  that ghosts exist. I thought Christians say they are not ghosts but evil spirits. By listening to the links, they are proven to be ghosts (humans who died and become ghosts) and not evil spirits.

  
  Din u see ghosts or evil spirits?

  I use ghosts cos sometimes ppl understand them as ghosts.

  But I believe ghosts are evil spirits in disguise.

• zero thought

  25 Aug 10, 10:44

  I am sure buddhist friends here do not oppose to your learning of Buddhism.
  
  However, if you really want to know about Buddhism, it is best you can complete a course on it, as there will be more knowledgable teachers there compared to those of us here who are not as well-versed in Buddhism.

  I am not sure what Christians consider satanic. If you find the book that Dawnfirstlight recommends unsuitable, then I assume Christians cannot read religious texts of other religions or their writings as well? But if you learn Buddhist teachings from us here in the forum, is it considered prohibited too?
  
  If you can't attend a course on Buddhism and can't read Buddhist sutras and books, it will be difficult for you to understand the whole picture about Buddhism by asking on the forums, although we will do our best to help you understand.

  As to motives of your wanting to learn Buddhism, it is not within my right to ask. But I hope if you ever quote Buddhist teachings in your evangelism, it is not meant to put down or belittle Buddhism or cause people to have a misunderstanding on Buddhism. It is always good to instead, evangelise by promoting the virtues of Christianity such as observing the 10 commandments, avoidance of the seven sins etc.

• -StarDust-

  25 Aug 10, 10:51

  Originally posted by zero thought:

  I am sure buddhist friends here do not oppose to your learning of Buddhism.
  
  However, if you really want to know about Buddhism, it is best you can complete a course on it, as there will be more knowledgable teachers there compared to those of us here who are not as well-versed in Buddhism.

  I am not sure what Christians consider satanic. If you find the book that Dawnfirstlight recommends unsuitable, then I assume Christians cannot read religious texts of other religions or their writings as well? But if you learn Buddhist teachings from us here in the forum, is it considered prohibited too?
  
  If you can't attend a course on Buddhism and can't read Buddhist sutras and books, it will be difficult for you to understand the whole picture about Buddhism by asking on the forums, although we will do our best to help you understand.

  As to motives of your wanting to learn Buddhism, it is not within my right to ask. But I hope if you ever quote Buddhist teachings in your evangelism, it is not meant to put down or belittle Buddhism or cause people to have a misunderstanding on Buddhism. It is always good to instead, evangelise by promoting the virtues of Christianity such as observing the 10 commandments, avoidance of the seven sins etc.

  I never quote buddhism when I share. I share testimonials and christian stuff.

  Buddhism knowledge helps when the well learned buddhsit tried to share his faith with u. U will understand what he share with u. U wont listen there blur blur.

   

• -StarDust-

  25 Aug 10, 10:53

  Originally posted by zero thought:

  I am sure buddhist friends here do not oppose to your learning of Buddhism.
  
  However, if you really want to know about Buddhism, it is best you can complete a course on it, as there will be more knowledgable teachers there compared to those of us here who are not as well-versed in Buddhism.

  I am not sure what Christians consider satanic. If you find the book that Dawnfirstlight recommends unsuitable, then I assume Christians cannot read religious texts of other religions or their writings as well? But if you learn Buddhist teachings from us here in the forum, is it considered prohibited too?
  
  If you can't attend a course on Buddhism and can't read Buddhist sutras and books, it will be difficult for you to understand the whole picture about Buddhism by asking on the forums, although we will do our best to help you understand.

  As to motives of your wanting to learn Buddhism, it is not within my right to ask. But I hope if you ever quote Buddhist teachings in your evangelism, it is not meant to put down or belittle Buddhism or cause people to have a misunderstanding on Buddhism. It is always good to instead, evangelise by promoting the virtues of Christianity such as observing the 10 commandments, avoidance of the seven sins etc.

  
  Now I dun plan to learn more on buddhism. I will try my bext to share with those who blindly follow with no knowledge.

  Anyway those with knowledge tend to have lower conversion rate than those who blindly follow. I saved all those blind faith one first. Do easy things first.

• Arapahoe

  25 Aug 10, 11:32

  Originally posted by wisdomeye:

  stardust, i don't think religions are contradicting or different. It is the practitioners who can't see the whole picture. Actually there is just one picture, not many pictures, but everyone see just some part of it.  Even within each religion, there are many pictures, many views and sects.  Every fragment seem to be different from the other, but if you have true understanding or realisation or omniscience, there is absolutely no contradiction.

  During the dharma assemblies of Buddha, all the different gods from all the religions appeared.  Some buddhist practitioners also make offerings to the Christian God.  As Buddhists, we do not disrespect your God at all. On the contrary, some masters who have been teaching in America also pray to the Jesus, Mary and the other saints to help them.

  Personally, i believe in things like angels, fairies and the western stuff and respect them too... I don't think you know what is Buddhism. If you know what is Buddhism, then you won't try to compare.  It is pointless.  Christianity is part of Buddhism and Buddhism is always there in Christianity. If you know how to see.

  Even more pointless is comparing healing... healing is like medicine. Does medicine belong to any religion?  Is anti-biotics, ginseng or any kind of medicine belonging to a God or religion?  Think clearly and then you won't have to make u-turns in later part of your life as i think you still go a long road to go, right?

   

   

  "Christianity  is part of Buddhism and Buddhism is always there in Christianity . If you know how to see"

  So true.....one of the better response.

• Amitayus48

  25 Aug 10, 13:35

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• sinweiy

  26 Aug 10, 14:28

  Originally posted by zero thought:

  I am sure buddhist friends here do not oppose to your learning of Buddhism.
  
  As to motives of your wanting to learn Buddhism, it is not within my right to ask. But I hope if you ever quote Buddhist teachings in your evangelism, it is not meant to put down or belittle Buddhism or cause people to have a misunderstanding on Buddhism. It is always good to instead, evangelise by promoting the virtues of Christianity such as observing the 10 commandments, avoidance of the seven sins etc.

  
  i like your response in the end. u didn't belittle Christianity, instead, u ask them to promote their virtues within Christianity. nice! 善载。善载。

  /\ 

• iceFatboy

  26 Aug 10, 14:40

  hi, just for discussions (without any offense), I once read an article relating to ghosts from a science point of view.

  A ghost is an entity that is debatable in the physics.

  if it can float from place to place, and go thru walls or doors, it doesn't follow laws of physics and hence is not a physical being. If so, then how can they interact with the real physics world like making sound? moving things? It simply can't. hence the conflict.

  again, no offense meant.

   

• An Eternal Now

  26 Aug 10, 14:50

  Originally posted by iceFatboy:

  hi, just for discussions (without any offense), I once read an article relating to ghosts from a science point of view.

  A ghost is an entity that is debatable in the physics.

  if it can float from place to place, and go thru walls or doors, it doesn't follow laws of physics and hence is not a physical being. If so, then how can they interact with the real physics world like making sound? moving things? It simply can't. hence the conflict.

  again, no offense meant.

   

  I don't think ghosts have physical body. They have a mental stream of consciousness and a subtle mental form that can be perceived in a certain state of consciousness.

  Mental energies can interact with the physical via intention. For example, when you intend to do something, the body moves. But the thought or intention is not a physical thing - it is a process of consciousness, the process of mental consciousness is mutually dependent and interactive with the physical in a certain way, but it is not caused by the physical body.

  Ghosts have supernatural powers - they can do things that humans can't do, they can read minds, etc, travel to different places via will of thought, which are beyond classical physical laws - but when you consider things like The Universe as a Hologram, then it all seems entirely possible.