Can I safely say this: Venerable Jing Kong teaching is...

• WeeShun

  11 Jan 11, 02:42

  Hi zenist, I am in support of you that we buddhists should not rely on taoist and non buddhist texts as the foundation or gates of entry to Buddhism. As Buddhists, we do not deny the humanistic nature and values in another religion but that does not equate to us Buddhists embracing them as "part of Buddhism", this is seriously erronous view.
  As for those whom are saying that Jesus, Laozi so and so are manifestations of so and so Buddhas and Bodhisattvas, this is pure assumption with no scriptural references.
  
  As Buddhists, always rem the refuge vows we once took before the Buddha as below:
  
  弟�尽形寿

  　皈�佛，生生世世�皈�外�天魔；
  　皈�法，生生世世�信奉外�典�；
  　皈�僧，生生世世�跟�外�门徒。

  
  This is the perfect reason why I only print Buddhist sutras for free distribution all over the world and not taoist classics, holy bible, quran etc. Call me narrow minded for only printing Buddhist sutras and not other non-buddhists texts, because I live in this saha world which I can only rely on the Buddha's teachings as a true way of foundation and to liberation which other religious cannot share.
  
  Start on the right path today, the Buddha's path not Jesus's, Laozi's path.
  
  Namo amituofo

• WeeShun

  11 Jan 11, 02:56

  dawnlight, my businese is based in taiwan and I can tell you with full assurance that Ven Chin Kung's style has not been accepted by almost all mainstream Buddhist colleages. You can try Yuan Kuang, Fu Yen, Fo Kuang, Fa Gu, Hua Yen institute none of these established buddhist colleagues promote nor agree what Ven ck is preaching. Here in Taiwan, he has a TV channel but its not under the Buddhist category but under the San Jiao (3 religions)
  
  In recent years, Ven Ck has heavily dabbled with "end of the world" prophecies causing and instilling fear and wrong views in many un-informed buddhists, he has now also decided to disrobe the chinese sangha robes and wearing chinese confucian robes (zhong shan chuang) and in his most recent works, he asked buddhists to
  
  信因果
  信真主
  信上�
  信最�审判
  信上天择�留良
  
  I am sorry to say that other than believing in Karma, the remaining belief in God, Final judgement does accord with Buddhism. I welcome you to Taiwan to prove for yourself and I encourage you to study proper Buddhism.
  
  
  
  

• Amitayus48

  11 Jan 11, 09:17

  《�善業��》 is also inherent emptiness nature and is found in all the sutras of all the Buddhas, according to Buddha Sakyamuni. Is an emptiness nature whether do you realize or not. In fact, all doctrines of officials religions relate to inherent emptiness nature Problem arises because they did not realize emptiness bliss, but idolises statue, image, attached over religious texts, worldly material and desire. Hence, be in conformity with the sense (emptiness) and be not engrossed in the word-teaching is the ultimate 《�善業��》.

  Then at that time the Blessed One recited this couplet of verses:
  
  I always preach emptiness which is beyond eternalism and nihilism; Samsara is like a dream and a vision, and karma vanishes not.
  
  Space, Nirvana, and the two forms of cessation— thus the ignorant discriminate the things which are not effect-producing, but the wise stand above being and non-being.
  
  At that time again, the Blessed One said this to Mah�mati the Bodhisattva-Mah�sattva; This [teaching of] emptiness, no-birth, non-duality, and no-self-nature is found in all the sutras of all the Buddhas, and this doctrine is recognised in every one of them. o with the teachings disclosed in all the sutras, they are for all beings for the gratification of their own discriminating minds. They are not the truth-preserving statements meant for noble wisdom to grasp. For this reason, Mah�mati, be in conformity with the sense and be not engrossed in the word-teaching.
  
  The Lank�vat�ra Sūtra

• sinweiy

  11 Jan 11, 09:18

  Originally posted by WeeShun:

  dawnlight, my businese is based in taiwan and I can tell you with full assurance that Ven Chin Kung's style has not been accepted by almost all mainstream Buddhist colleages. You can try Yuan Kuang, Fu Yen, Fo Kuang, Fa Gu, Hua Yen institute none of these established buddhist colleagues promote nor agree what Ven ck is preaching. Here in Taiwan, he has a TV channel but its not under the Buddhist category but under the San Jiao (3 religions)
  
  In recent years, Ven Ck has heavily dabbled with "end of the world" prophecies causing and instilling fear and wrong views in many un-informed buddhists, he has now also decided to disrobe the chinese sangha robes and wearing chinese confucian robes (zhong shan chuang) and in his most recent works, he asked buddhists to
  
  信因果
  信真主
  信上�
  信最�审判
  信上天择�留良
  
  I am sorry to say that other than believing in Karma, the remaining belief in God, Final judgement does accord with Buddhism. I welcome you to Taiwan to prove for yourself and I encourage you to study proper Buddhism.

   

  hmm, having listen to so many years until now, i had never got all this ideas/meaning, except the first one in believing in Karma. i won't want to ä¾�文解义. words are words, idea is idea. regarding "end of the world", yea, sometime he say thing like that, but at heart, his idea is Buddhism do not have the "end of the world" saying from the west, pls listen to the recent talks, i just did this morning, and they are not his idea.

  a way to understand the real meaning, is through wholehearted respect, not just to Buddha, but to all sentient beings. the more respect敬, the more can understand, 如�真实义.

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• sinweiy

  11 Jan 11, 09:24

  Originally posted by WeeShun:

  sinwey,

  taishangganyinpian is part of rulai's zhen shi yi?

  
  depends. according to è—� or 通 or 别 or 圆. to 圆教, a smile can also be rulai's zhen shi yi. :)

  ps: i didn't study taishangganyinpian btw.

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• sinweiy

  11 Jan 11, 09:34

  ok, all i can say is, affinity is different. and i think u already succeed the goal of disturbing the faith of many buddhists, and the reputation of Buddhism.

  at least, 济群法师 stopped when it's time to stop "我就��评判了", not like people keep 评判 and clinging..why not follow Buddha's last word and get it over with. don't say u don't want to listen to Buddha, bah.

  佛�世，以佛为师，佛入��，以�为师？佛答：「以戒为师。�凡佛弟�，�管在家出家，皆以戒为师。二�佛�世时，�佛安�，佛入��，�何为�？佛答：「�四念处安�。�乃心之安�，�身之安�。三��性比丘，如何治之？佛答：「默摈治之。�莫�他，管好自己，作好榜样，彼自生惭愧，端正己之三业。四�佛��，结集�典，一切�首当安何语，以�信未�众生？佛答：「当安如是我闻等�。

  when Buddha was about to pass on, Ananda asked Buddha what to do with "bad"(according to one's view) monk/nuns. Buddha said use the silent treatment 默摈治之and just don't care about them. u do your own part. no need to bad mouth or anything. really no point. same like how Buddha treat Devadatta.

   

  also 净界法师主讲

  ��戒修学法� -

  Track 5

  http://www.pureland.com.sg/mp3jingjie/pusa%20jie%20xiu%20xue%20fa%20yao%2005.mp3

  6. Sixth Major Precept

  On Broadcasting the Faults of the Assembly
  A disciple of the Buddha must not himself broadcast the misdeeds or infractions of Bodhisattva-clerics or Bodhisattva-laypersons, or of [ordinary] monks and nuns -- nor encourage others to do so. He must not create the causes, conditions, methods, or karma of discussing the offenses of the assembly.

  As a Buddha's disciple, whenever he hears evil persons, externalists or followers of the Two Vehicles speak of practices contrary to the Dharma or contrary to the precepts within the Buddhist community, he should instruct them with a compassionate mind and lead them to develop wholesome faith in the Mahayana.

  If instead, he discusses the faults and misdeeds that occur within the assembly, he commits a Parajika offense.

   

  ps: guys, no more replying to zenist. don't want to feed more wood to the already big fire.

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