Dear Forum moderators and owners,
Is Yi Kwan Tao Buddhism ?
Is Yi Kwan Tao teachings allowed to be shared here to Buddhists?
Thank you.
i no comment, as i don't judge a book by it's cover. never learn them. i only come across a person and heard people say it's cult only. no point comparing something i do not read in depth and see for myself.
btw: i nv lock the other thread.
hahahha.....lock one to open up another one....u see...truth can be closed and be opened...
that is the wonder of the truth....truth is malleable
it is as if asking: Why learn chinese when english will do?...
sinweiy, Oh you don't know then why the fourm rules say Tian Tao Movement not allowed to be discussed here in this forum?
Why is Yi kwan Tao a cult? Cannot by mere hearsay only right?
If no reason for not allowing Yi Kwan Tao to be shared here, then you should lift the bann, right?
Yi Kwan Tao is syncretic religion, I don't think followers are allowed to divulge their beliefs anyway. It is for them to share, for Buddhists to discern.
Personally, I am not afraid to listen, but I can't be bothered too much.
why the need of languages when silent truth suffice?
Fcukpap, becose Chinese is a needed for a widening chinese ecnomy. My question back to you is is Taoism and Confucianism or even Christianity or Islam needed for a Buddhist to attain pureland or enlightenment?
Weychin, how do you consider Yi Kwan Tao as syncretic? Can you please elaborate.
thank you.
You need to be initiated.
Ohh .. but all deities from all religions teaches us to do good and do no evil, just like the Buddha taught Do no evil, do good, what so wrong with them praying to difft deities of difftfent religions?
deities and religions are just labels and names due to our attachment, can you agree that? So if that is the case, how can this forum consider Yi Kwan Tao as cult and further banned from being promoted in this forum?
everyone needs everyone to build truth towards greater truths with different perceptions...
my deliberate use of language as an example is to show that the point is not in language but it is with language that one is confounded and shift the truth..
the person i met, 10 over years ago, did ask me if i want to go to her "master" and open a "door" in the forehead, so when u die, ur soul can go to higher heaven (saying it's higher than pureland? cannot recall). i see not right and strange, so i reject as i already practicing in PL practice.
pap, so Yi kwan tao anything wrong?
Keep along the topic right?
sinweiy, that is only a outer ritual, right? Yi Kwan tao teaches us to do good and do no evil too. They teach us to to honour our parents, not to kill sentient beings, do good deeds, pray and learn from all religious saints.
Pureland and Heaven got difference? Isn't it only just name and labels? In Buddhism we call pureland but in Yi Kwan Tao they call it higher heaven.
What's so not right and strange? Why are you so attached to names, outer rituals and you got such a heart of differenciation between Buddhism and Yi kwan Tao, shouldn't you be all embracing?
Originally posted by WeeShun:Ohh .. but all deities from all religions teaches us to do good and do no evil, just like the Buddha taught Do no evil, do good, what so wrong with them praying to difft deities of difftfent religions?
deities and religions are just labels and names due to our attachment, can you agree that? So if that is the case, how can this forum consider Yi Kwan Tao as cult and further banned from being promoted in this forum?
Buddhism is much more than that, it teaches the cessation of suffering through non self.
There are practitioners and there are devotees, as there a Guan Yin in Taoist temples, which creates affinity for non buddhist.
To the devotee, the deities are real, in the heavens.The average guy do not understand attachment. Even for a Buddhist, some need to take lifetimes to understand that.
Yi Kwan Tao is not Buddhism as it does'nt teaches the Dharma Seal, Four Noble Truth and Eightfold Path.
If I were a layman devotee, I would'nt have known any better, whoever reaches out to me better, gets my devotion.
Originally posted by sinweiy:i no comment, as i don't judge a book by it's cover. never learn them. i only come across a person and heard people say it's cult only. no point comparing something i do not read in depth and see for myself.
btw: i nv lock the other thread.
FireIce locked it again.
Originally posted by Weychin:Buddhism is much more than that, it teaches the cessation of suffering through non self.
There are practitioners and there are devotees, as there a Guan Yin in Taoist temples, which creates affinity for non buddhist.
To the devotee, the deities are real, in the heavens.The average guy do not understand attachment. Even for a Buddhist, some need to take lifetimes to understand that.
Yi Kwan Tao is not Buddhism as it does'nt teaches the Dharma Seal, Four Noble Truth and Eightfold Path.
That's right. Yi Kuan Dao only teaches people to do good. It does not lead people to liberation. Therefore it is not Buddhism.
Furthermore, it mislead people into thinking that what it teaches is the same as Buddhism, and has cult-like behaviors (like secret initiation and swearing to get lightning strike etc). This is why Yi Kuan Dao is listed in this forum as a cult and not some other non-Buddhist religions and teachings.
it is not in the economy of language in this context but rather philosophical investigations of truth(s)....
yi kwan dao is a form and path towards its perception of buddhism ...so when a form is wrong but the intentions are right....that should be right in his context of truth
Originally posted by WeeShun:how can this forum consider Yi Kwan Tao as cult and further banned from being promoted in this forum?
last time there was a famous esangha forum, very international Buddhists forum. They have different sect in different partitions. as one of the pureland moderator there myself, i talked to a lot of well known well cultivated monks/buddhists there. but it was closed down due to a japan sect monk cum lawyer went to sue the forum owner for rejecting his wrong view. the owner never do anything, as it was most of the mods that rejected his view. since that forum is well establish and some old timers know their Buddhism stuff. so some of the rules are taken from there, when i discussed with AEN.
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Weychin, are you being too attached to the label of Buddhism then? How sure are you that Yi kwan Tao does not lead you to cessation of suffering?
Also can you share with me why Buddhists cannot go join Yi Kwan Dao?
Yi Kwan Tao teaches the 4 virturious deeds as adapted from Confucian, same as four noble truth?
Yi kwan tao prays to Buddha maitreya and Guan Yin pusa also, even if it cannot lead to cessation of suffering, it can be foundational gates of entry to Buddhism through Yi Kwan Tao?
All religions are in oneness, if you see any difference, its only due to our attachments to names and labels, right?
There is only one God,
in China it appears as Tai Shang lao Jun,
in India appears as Shakyamuni Buddha
in Middle east appear as Mohd
in western appear as Jesus Christ
is this right?
pap, Ohh ... Yi kwan Tao is right in the context of Truth!
Eternal Now, can you now lift the bann on Yi Kwan Tao on here now?
Sinweiy, so this fourm banned yi kwan tao without a reason and it just copied the rules from another forum over here ?
Originally posted by WeeShun:Weychin, are you being too attached to the label of Buddhism then? How sure are you that Yi kwan Tao does not lead you to cessation of suffering?
Also can you share with me why Buddhists cannot go join Yi Kwan Dao?
Yi Kwan Tao teaches the 4 virturious deeds as adapted from Confucian, same as four noble truth?
Yi kwan tao prays to Buddha maitreya and Guan Yin pusa also, even if it cannot lead to cessation of suffering, it can be foundational gates of entry to Buddhism through Yi Kwan Tao?
All religions are in oneness, if you see any difference, its only due to our attachments to names and labels, right?
There is only one God,
in China it appears as Tai Shang lao Jun,
in India appears as Shakyamuni Buddha
in Middle east appear as Mohd
in western appear as Jesus Christ
is this right?
Yi Kwan Tao only on entry levels, it's practices are more taoist practices of immortality, the chinese believe in Tien, or Heavens or Shang Di, Tai Shang Lao Jun is a taoist immortal.
Tsk, tsk you should know better, is Buddha a God, or Brahma like?
But opportunities arising, I will like someone to gently induct these people to Buddhism.
there can also be multiple gods or truths...depending on your context relative to others....
truth can be relative and change in time