After a few years of meditation practice we can even learn how to occasionally
ignore ourselves. And what relief that can be!
~Wes Nisker
Happiness does not come from having much, but from being attached to little. ~Venerable Cheng Yen
Originally posted by sinweiy:just listen to
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Track 5 (10min onward). then u know why...it's a very long term effect to the Buddhist world.
http://www.pureland.com.sg/avlibrary.html
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http://hi.baidu.com/%B0%A2%B1%C8%BC%D7%B5%B1%B8%C2/blog/item/870f02a96c5ae9bbca130c64.html
Zenist, sent you a message. Check your Inbox please.
Originally posted by Weychin:What is the ramifications of this threes verses?If you do not practise Confucianism you will not attain SagehoodIf you do not practise Taoism you will not become an ImmortalIf you do not practise Buddhism you will not become a Bodhisattva.So only if you can only become a Bodhisattva, if and only if youpractise Buddhism.
I dun noe, I am lost. Whats the last two messages of yours gotta do with MJK sect pushing Di Zi Gui to newbie??
Originally posted by Zenist69:I dun noe, I am lost. Whats the last two messages of yours gotta do with MJK sect pushing Di Zi Gui to newbie??
Originally posted by Weychin:When practicing Confucianism, one becomes a sageWhen practising Taoism, one become a immortalWhen practising buddhism, one becomes a bodhisattvaThat was was a quoted by Master Jing Kung in a video posted here.
If we are Buddhist, why are we encouraging people to go learn and become an immortal then??
Stop churning out excuses for false view and action would u please. Thank you.
Originally posted by Zenist69:If we are Buddhist, why are we encouraging people to go learn and become an immortal then??
Stop churning out excuses for false view and action would u please. Thank you.
Only when you practise Buddhism, you can become a Bodhisattva.
You dictate, but not read. You have access to mind, but you are unable to use it.
I feel sorry for, you've allowed prejudice to cloud the clarity of your mind.
Or are you an agent provocateur?
Originally posted by Weychin:Only when you practise Buddhism, you can become a Bodhisattva.
You dictate, but not read. You have access to mind, but you are unable to use it.
I feel sorry for, you've allowed prejudice to cloud the clarity of your mind.
Or are you an agent provocateur?
Passing out non buddhism book to the newbie, what has that gotta do with practicing Buddhism and become Boddhisattva?? What has that gotta do with walking the Buddhism path?
You practise Buddhism and become a Bodhisattva, you read other classics to gain wisdom and understanding. And if you, prior to being a Buddhist, when read the Taoist, Confucianist and Buddhist Classics, you will realise all contains wisdom, and Buddhism rises above them. That extra bit you will not know you do not diligenty study and differentiate the difference.
Most people to not rise to that level. Taoist and Confucianist are great, but it is only when you compare them with Buddhism, then you will respect Buddha's Teachings even more.
Originally posted by Weychin:You practise Buddhism and become a Bodhisattva, you read other classics to gain wisdom and understanding. And if you, prior to being a Buddhist, when read the Taoist, Confucianist and Buddhist Classics, you will realise all contains wisdom, and Buddhism rises above them. That extra bit you will not know you do not diligenty study and differentiate the difference.
Most people to not rise to that level. Taoist and Confucianist are great, but it is only when you compare them with Buddhism, then you with respect Buddha's Teachings even more.
Why assign other classic to the newbie? They should first read buddhism book. The priority for them is to gain entry and foundation to buddhism first before going into other classic.
And also, isn't it an act of deception to pass out non buddhism book as buddhism book??
Originally posted by Zenist69:Why assign other classic to the newbie? They should first read buddhism book. The priority for them is to gain entry and foundation to buddhism first before going into other classic.
And also, isn't it an act of deception to pass out non buddhism book as buddhism book??
Because being Chinese, and around chinese elders, one understand values of confucianism and taoism better. Most usually do not grasp the significance of Buddhism until much later. It understanding being a good chinese gives you a better context of Buddhism, it is agood thing is'nt it?
Now remember, Master Jing Kung is only one aspect of the Bodhisattva Way, there are many Dharma Master and Pathways to walk. Choose one which suit you better.
One of the issues with some chinese elders is the lack of piety of christian follower. That's a sweeping statement I'm sure, but I have perfectl a stranger coming up to me and telling me that of their children. This is not new, over year references are made about this here and there.
Originally posted by Weychin:Because being Chinese, and around chinese elders, one understand values of confucianism and taoism better. Most usually do not grasp the significance of Buddhism until much later. It understanding being a good chinese gives you a better context of Buddhism, it is agood thing is'nt it?
Now remember, Master Jing Kung is only one aspect of the Bodhisattva Way, there are many Dharma Master and Pathways to walk. Choose one which suit you better.
Like I said, if one is a buddhist, the priority is to help spreading the Buddha Dharma.
Not help to spread other set of belief system. Unless... if one view him or herself as confucius student first a buddhist second, then of course, to first propagate confucianism to the newbie is natural thing to do.
How many times do I have to repeat? Its not me whether I wanna choose which way the issue. Its the MJK camp pushing for their own weird s#@$ agenda (non buddhism book as entry and foundation) thats the issue. Of course I have the right to choose watever path i want. but the newbie might not have the knowledge to discern, thats the problem!
Originally posted by Weychin:One of the issues with some chinese elders is the lack of piety of christian follower. That's a sweeping statement I'm sure, but I have perfectl a stranger coming up to me and telling me that of their children. This is not new, over year references are made about this here and there.
So just say it. Just say it loud and clear. That u are all for pushing Di Zi Gui a book base on Confucianism to the newbie 'cause Confucianism champion filial piety. And stop dancing around. If u keep on dancing, how are we going to get down to the bottom of the issue? Just talk straight. Stop spewing rhetoric talk.
Originally posted by Zenist69:Like I said, if one is a buddhist, the priority is to help spreading the Buddha Dharma.
Not help to spread other set of belief system. Unless... if one view him or herself as confucius student first a buddhist second, then of course, to first propagate confucianism to the newbie is natural thing to do.How many times do I have to repeat? Its not me whether I wanna choose which way the issue. Its the MJK camp pushing for their own weird s#@$ agenda (non buddhism book as entry and foundation) thats the issue. Of course I have the right to choose watever path i want. but the newbie might not have the knowledge to discern, thats the problem!
Not promoting another belief system, they are already there, and people are living their lives that way. By using and highlighting common threads of wisdom and morality, the affinity with Buddhism grows.
Highlight again, the belief system of confucianism and taoism is already ingrained.
Originally posted by Weychin:Not promoting another belief system, they are already there, and people are living their lives that way. By using and highlighting common threads of wisdom and morality, the affinity with Buddhism grows.
Highlight again, the belief system of confucianism and taoism is already ingrained.
To introduce confucianism, daoism book to the newbie who show interest in buddhism, that doesn't help to introduce Buddhism to the newbie!! It just reingrained the belief system of confucianism and daoism which is in them!
Originally posted by Zenist69:To introduce confucianism, daoism book to the newbie who show interest in buddhism, that doesn't help to introduce Buddhism to the newbie!! It just reingrained the belief system of confucianism and daoism which is in them!
Nei Dao ..... Wai Dao
You can't unculture a person just by letting him read. You help them by incorporating with what is in agreement with their culture, gently, subtly.
It is only one of the methods, if it does'nt go well with you, move on.
The path of bodhisattva is'nt paved in a day or two, nor, in most cases, many lifetimes.
Patience, Dharma Brother, patience.
By the way, we will try only to inculcate positive values.
Originally posted by Weychin:Nei Dao ..... Wai Dao
You can't unculture a person just by letting him read. You help them by incorporating with what is in agreement with their culture, gently, subtly.
It is only one of the methods, if it does'nt go well with you, move on.
The path of bodhisattva is'nt paved in a day or two, nor, in most cases, many lifetimes.
Patience, Dharma Brother, patience.
So now u think its appropriate thing to do, to pass off non buddhism book as buddhism book to the newbie? I tot u agree that its inappropriate thing to do at the other thread??
Originally posted by Zenist69:So now u think its appropriate thing to do, to pass off non buddhism book as buddhism book to the newbie? I tot u agree that its inappropriate thing to do at the other thread??
I would'nt do it, if that is what you are asking, but then I do not have that competence.
But then if using as an preliminary to put Buddhism into context, is an extremely skillful mean.
You accusation as to pass off a non buddhist text as buddhist is still being disputed.
Originally posted by Weychin:I would'nt do it, if that is what you are asking, but then I do not have that competence.
But then if using as an preliminary to put Buddhism into context, is an extremely skillful mean.
You accusation as to pass off a non buddhist text as buddhist is still being disputed.
Where's there to be disputed? In the video which I shown here, MJK himself had already recommend newbie to go study Di Zi Gui FIRST.
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