Sightings of UFO (Buddha Said 三千大千世界）

• Dawnfirstlight

  14 Jul 12, 15:57

  Sightings of UFO :

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq4izhwg3Mo

  More than 2000 years ago, Buddha said there were higher intelligence beings out there and there were many worlds 三å�ƒå¤§å�ƒä¸–ç•Œ. It does not mean there are only 3000 worlds, it is just to symbolise that there are countless planets in this universe. Sightings of UFO has no conflict with Buddha's teachings, in fact it proves what Buddha said was correct.

• Jacky Woo

  14 Jul 12, 16:06

  you got the sutra to prove the Buddha said this?

• Dawnfirstlight

  14 Jul 12, 16:14

  Originally posted by Jacky Woo:

  you got the sutra to prove the Buddha said this?

  In Buddhism, 三å�ƒå¤§å�ƒä¸–ç•Œ  is very common, most of the true Buddhists know that it appears in many sutras to describe the universe. If I remember correctly, one of the sutra is 大智度论. I read a Buddhist book, this book is about Buddhism and Science. It wrote that Buddha said there were living things in the cup of water, this was long before the invention of microscope and Buddha said there were higher intelligence out there, this was long before the invention of telescope.

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• bycai

  14 Jul 12, 17:39

  Based on 黃念祖�居士 whose profession was science teacher and a 金刚上师，mentioned that 1000 galaxies is a buddha world.

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• 2009novice

  14 Jul 12, 19:28

  Originally posted by Jacky Woo:

  you got the sutra to prove the Buddha said this?

  
  i guess even if there is such as sutra, there are still skeptics who don't believe this. Why...? We are blurring the boundaries of religion and science here. Again this point leads to no end. Meaningless and deviating away from dharma....

• mr music

  15 Jul 12, 15:01

  i am lost and confused. My Chinese sucks.
• Jacky Woo

  15 Jul 12, 15:12

  why dun the UFO contact us and tell us what they want from us?

• sinweiy

  15 Jul 12, 16:03

  三å�ƒå¤§å�ƒ Three thousand great thousand (3 000 000 000, not 3000) is just refering to how big or number of stars in a particular universe system. not much to say about ufo. ufo is ufo, just a vehicle.  so no big deal.

  why they never contact, which i agreed with lated Ven Shen Kai, is becos we are too "barbaric" for them. they are more civilized. but it's a matter of time.  

  /\

• 2009novice

  15 Jul 12, 22:37

  maybe the UFO will come when the earth stood still... and men in black busy flashing lights at unsuspecting civilians...

• Fcukpap

  15 Jul 12, 22:40

  they were told to fly past...but was asked not to interfere with human affairs...thats y..

• 2009novice

  15 Jul 12, 22:41

  Originally posted by Fcukpap:

  they were told to fly past...but was asked not to interfere with human affairs...thats y..

  
  

• justdoit77

  16 Jul 12, 15:53

  Originally posted by Jacky Woo:

  you got the sutra to prove the Buddha said this?

  Of course.
  If you go and read buddhism scriptures, you will be stunned on how deep and how large the buddha teaching cover.

• Jacky Woo

  16 Jul 12, 23:52

  but then what has it got to do with one practising of the dhamma, even if you know that UFO are from other world system.

• Jacky Woo

  17 Jul 12, 00:29

  strange that those UFOs didnt pay Buddha a visit to hear his dhamma, since it is extremely rare for a Buddha to appear in this world.

• sinweiy

  17 Jul 12, 08:42

  Originally posted by Jacky Woo:

  but then what has it got to do with one practising of the dhamma, even if you know that UFO are from other world system.

  
  that's what i meant too.

  strange that those UFOs didnt pay Buddha a visit to hear his dhamma, since it is extremely rare for a Buddha to appear in this world.

  u meant 2500+ yrs ago when Buddha was alive? but if they are around, i think they'd have read about Buddhism since the sutras are still around.

• Dawnfirstlight

  17 Jul 12, 12:44

  Originally posted by Jacky Woo:

  but then what has it got to do with one practising of the dhamma, even if you know that UFO are from other world system.

  Yeah, it has nothing to do with practicing of the dharma. I'm just amazed by Buddha's wisdom. I used to hear comments like "Why do you choose Buddhism, you are young and educated". There are still many people who perceive Buddhism as superstitious religion. Little did they know that Buddhism is more advance than Science.

• Jui

  17 Jul 12, 22:32

  Or maybe, they have their own equivalent of what we refer to as buddhism here. Isn't it said that Amitahba Buddha isn't even a buddha from this world anyway?

• sinweiy

  18 Jul 12, 09:23

  Originally posted by Jui:

  Or maybe, they have their own equivalent of what we refer to as buddhism here. Isn't it said that Amitahba Buddha isn't even a buddha from this world anyway?

  
  yes, IF they have yuan. Shakyamuni although parinirvana here, but He's still reborning/manifesting within our 3 000 000 000 World Systems to teach other sentient beings, for another 56 billion years, before Maitreya come to take over from Tusita heaven. - said Ven Shen Kai. the most we can said or reachable is the 4 continent in Buddhism. our earth is southern "earth". the other 3 earths are already communicating, sending goods here and there, said Ven (pusa) Shen Kai. but i don't think they encounter Buddhism, in the sense like we did 2500+ yrs ago. 4 continent/earth within One Sumeru is already very vast and is just one(?) of the 3 000 000 000 World Systems! 4 continent traveling is already not easy.

  Amitahba Buddha's Pureland is beyond our 3 000 000 000 World Systems, don't know more than how many times!

  /\

• Jacky Woo

  29 Jul 12, 00:55

  Originally posted by sinweiy:

  
  yes, IF they have yuan. Shakyamuni although parinirvana here, but He's still reborning/manifesting within our 3 000 000 000 World Systems to teach other sentient beings, for another 56 billion years, before Maitreya come to take over from Tusita heaven. - said Ven Shen Kai. the most we can said or reachable is the 4 continent in Buddhism. our earth is southern "earth". the other 3 earths are already communicating, sending goods here and there, said Ven (pusa) Shen Kai. but i don't think they encounter Buddhism, in the sense like we did 2500+ yrs ago. 4 continent/earth within One Sumeru is already very vast and is just one(?) of the 3 000 000 000 World Systems! 4 continent traveling is already not easy.

  Amitahba Buddha's Pureland is beyond our 3 000 000 000 World Systems, don't know more than how many times!

  /\

  I think it is incorrect to say Shakyamuni Buddha exists after his Parinirvana.

• TehJarVu

  29 Jul 12, 01:19

  so many casinoes, consperm this is a å¤§å�ƒä¸–ç•Œ

• Ihatemen

  29 Jul 12, 21:28

  Originally posted by TehJarVu:

  so many casinoes, consperm this is a å¤§å�ƒä¸–ç•Œ

  
  Pls be mindful of your words and respect the people who contribute to this thread.
• 2009novice

  29 Jul 12, 21:52

  Originally posted by Ihatemen:

  
  Pls be mindful of your words and respect the people who contribute to this thread.

  
  I think Teh meant no harm....

   

• sinweiy

  30 Jul 12, 08:36

  Originally posted by Jacky Woo:

  I think it is incorrect to say Shakyamuni Buddha exists after his Parinirvana.

   

  yet incorrect to say he is extinct.

  Nibbana is not nothingness or extinction. Would the Buddha leave his family and kingdom and preach for 45 years, all for nothingness?

  http://www.sinc.sunysb.edu/Clubs/buddhism/dhammananda/102.htm

  didn't use the word "exist", yet Nibbana "exists" just as fire exists.

  If Nibbana is not a place, where is Nibbana then? Nibbana exists just as fire exists. However, there is no storage place for fire or for Nibbana. But when you rub pieces of wood together, then the friction and heat are the proper conditions for fire to arise. Likewise, when the nature in man's mind is such that he is free from all defilements, then Nibbanic bliss will appear.

  if some place got proper conditions, fire will still arises.  

  /\

• mr music

  30 Jul 12, 13:19

  Originally posted by TehJarVu:

  so many casinoes, consperm this is a å¤§å�ƒä¸–ç•Œ

  
  I will not condom your words of negligence.
• bycai

  2 Aug 12, 14:58

  ufo did not pay buddha a visit is common sense. their machine was just discovered and in the process of developing, subsequently several attempts to fly away beyond their comfort zone were not successful. Very sad for them, is karma. And after finishing their infatuation over technologies, their mind settle down,  they dun want to meet buddha also cannot.

  Another scenario is buddha form is extreme big, the ufo did not realize they are travelling within buddha form, like ant crawling on human feet does not realize it's human, otherwise, they will run for their life already.