Remarriage considered sexual misconduct?
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Would the statement "ultimately everything is false" be subject to itself too? If everything is false, then so is that statement!
hah, indeed, there's a profound notion of emptiness of emptiness. :)
http://www.amazon.com/Emptiness-Introduction-Madhyamka-National-Technical/dp/0824817125
u miss out the word ultimately. which mean in the noumenon aspect.
beside my word "false" is not the conventional, it is to mean sunyata, fake, illusion, middle way. a Buddhist will understand the meaning, but maybe not from your outsider perspective hence ur refute.
reminded of :-
The Parable of the Burning House
The Parable of the Burning House appears in Chapter 3 ( the Hiyu Chapter ) of the Lotus Sutra. In this parable a scenario is presented where children are in great danger in a house on fire :-
One day, a fire broke out in the house of a wealthy man who had many children. The wealthy man shouted at his children inside the burning house to flee. But, the children were absorbed in their games and did not heed his warning, though the house was being consumed by flames.
Then, the wealthy man devised a practical way to lure the children from the burning house. Knowing that the children were fond of interesting playthings, he called out to them, "Listen! Outside the gate are the carts that you have always wanted: carts pulled by goats, carts pulled by deer, and carts pulled by oxen. Why don't you come out and play with them?" The wealthy man knew that these things would be irresistible to his children.
The children, eager to play with these new toys rushed out of the house but, instead of the carts that he had promised, the father gave them a cart much better than any he has described - a cart draped with precious stones and pulled by white bullocks. The important thing being that the children were saved from the dangers of the house on fire.
In this parable the father, of course, is the Buddha and sentient beings are the children trapped in the burning house. The Burning House represents the world burning with the fires of old age, sickness and death. The teachings of the Buddha are like the father getting the boys to leave their pleasures for a greater pleasure, Nirvana.
A further interpretation is to see the the goat, deer, and ox carts as representing the early teachings of Buddhism, as the teachings of Hinayana Buddhism (the Mahayana term for the Buddhism that preceded it), and the cart pulled by white bullocks to 'The Lotus Sutra' which, when followed, leads to Buddhahood.the lie is false, but that does not mean it's ineffective to lure one from danger. the Buddha dharma is also in this manner.
the word "Right" in Buddhism simply mean, don't harm yourself and others.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
If I may add a Christian perspective to this. The issue of sexual misconduct is addressed in the Bible too. The Bible has a lot to say about sex!
Firstly, God created the first man and first woman. It was thus heterosexual relationship. It was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. This is the basis for marriage between one man and one woman. Neither did God make one man and many women, for that would imply polygamy. It was one man one woman.
Secondly, marriage is the closest union because Eve was taken from the side of Adam, thus the notion of husband and wife as "one flesh" union. It was so historically and thus so now.
Thirdly, the body is supposed to be the temple of God, which is why God restrict sexual relations to husband and wife.
Fourthly, the Bible is silent on the issue of remarriage, and Christians have differing views on this.
Fifthly, the notion of sexual misconduct presupposes that there is right conduct in terms of sexuality. What is this right conduct? Where do we get the notion of right conduct from?
This is a Buddhist Forum, kindly stop bringing in your Christian perspectives and views here. Place them in some other Christian forums instead.
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Originally posted by Aik TC:
This is a Buddhist Forum, kindly stop bringing in your Christian perspectives and views here. Place them in some other Christian forums instead.
finally...! a moderator doing his job
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can. enough alr. zeus?
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Originally posted by sinweiy:
can. enough alr. zeus?
Zeus...?
you are not talking to me right...? I'm not a clone
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Originally posted by 2009novice:
Zeus...?
you are not talking to me right...? I'm not a clonesee if zeus29 want to stop or go on.
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Originally posted by sinweiy:
see if zeus29 want to stop or go on.
sorry... don't know what's going on
nevermind
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Originally posted by 2009novice:
sorry... don't know what's going on
nevermind
Blood Sacrifice thread is dragging too long alr.
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Originally posted by Aik TC:
This is a Buddhist Forum, kindly stop bringing in your Christian perspectives and views here. Place them in some other Christian forums instead.
Thank you for bringing this up.
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Ok..
It's going in circles. We've told him our stand but he keeps persisting. Just because it matters to him it doesn't mean it matters to us.
May all beings be well.
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Then let it be known that it is the forum's policy and rules that one shall not "promote Non-Buddhism materials, doctrines, products, or religions/spiritual practices unless it is simply the discussion of these teachings/practices in relation to Buddhism"
Posts that do not accord with rules will be edited and removed.
p.s. just added "doctrines" todayhttp://sgforums.com/forums/1728/topics/374821?page=1#posts-9356069
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Originally posted by Aik TC:
This is a Buddhist Forum, kindly stop bringing in your Christian perspectives and views here. Place them in some other Christian forums instead.
Noted. Thanks to all in this forum who have taken the time to interact with me. I will now take my leave from this forum.
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Originally posted by zeus29:
Ok..
It's going in circles. We've told him our stand but he keeps persisting. Just because it matters to him it doesn't mean it matters to us.
May all beings be well.
It is certainly very tempting to put forward one’s point of views, perspectives when one disagreed or have a different set of opinions on an issue with another party. But there should come a time when one or both parties should realize that they are getting nowhere due to irreconcilable differences. In such cases, it would be best for either party to remain silent instead of continuously dragging on with an endless debate.
To remain silent does not mean in every instant that one has conceded defeat or one is wrong. It could just mean the gap on what is being discussed is too wide to be bridged. It would than be better to move on to other more meaningful issues.
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For the case of the multiple body, how would that work? So, if one body experiences pain, the others also expererience it? Do each of the body has a mind of its own, or there's a central mind that control of of the bodies? What if there're confrontation among the bodies, where one hurts the other, then you're hurting your own self???
Originally posted by sinweiy:i believe in the multiple bodies saying and i also believe Dharmamitra who said he had spiritual penetration . at my age, i am inbetween the traditional age and modern age. i know modern buddhists had their modern way of interpreting the dharma. if Master Hsuan Hua were in this age, i believe, his spiritual penetration will be different and according to this age. not that he's wrong, he's right in his time.
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Originally posted by NDQ:
For the case of the multiple body, how would that work? So, if one body experiences pain, the others also expererience it? Do each of the body has a mind of its own, or there's a central mind that control of of the bodies? What if there're confrontation among the bodies, where one hurts the other, then you're hurting your own self???
there could be a central mind or aim for all the bodies.
u ever see a colony of ants or termites attacking themselves or mosquitos fighting with their own kind? no right? colony of ants all working together.
i don't think the pain will spread to the other bodies. i imagine like even if u hit ur right hand, the left hand is not in pain.
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I've been thinking if being a gay of being involved in gay relationship is a form of going against nature