passing Buddhists post your sect or tradition
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and also how long you been a buddhist, a bit of info about your sect/tradition etc
Me: found out about buddhism slightly more than half a year ago, no sect or tradition yet, havent taken refuge in the triple gems. My knowledge is randomly picked up, so what I say about Buddhism may not be totally accurate sometimes. -
I only study a little about Buddhism when I was Primary 5 in Chinese. I never gui1 yi1 or anything.
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Not a buddhist but have read some books. Quite interesting
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Gelugpa tradition with His Holiness Dalai Lama as spiritual leader. Currently just finished 1st yr of a 5 yr course in this tradition.
Just went thru the unorthodox site. That particular Gelugpa tradition uses the same name but is never recognized. -
Jodo Shinshu (Pure Land) Buddhist
Currenly in Kyoto, Japan studying abt this tradition. Interested in knowing more? Pls come to my webby at http://shinmission_sg.tripod.com -
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Man....i beg to to differ.....to be a buddhist u need not follow proceedures like this....in my view buddhist is just a superficial name given by man to distinguish people who practice buddhism...yah it's true in the temples they would ask u to seek refuge to the triple gem...Buddha(sumpreme teacher),dharma(knowledge)and sangha(monks)...but in my view this are traditional practices.....we shouldn't draw the line between buddhist and non-buddhist....they and us or should i say WE are all equal...seeking knowledge about darma.....just that our way of seeking the knowledge are different...provided that we keep the 5 precepts in mind.....Originally posted by Xabir:No, they probably aren't buddhists.
Because they have not taken refuge in the triple jems:
1) Buddha
2) Dharma
3) Sangha.
To be a buddhist, one must take refuge in the triple jems first.
Taoist temples don't provide refuge... only Buddhist monasteries and dharma centres would tell followers to take refuge in the triple jems. -
Indeed we should be mindful. Yet the human mind is full of delusions and weak. We need a guide thus we take refuge. Many times people read about buddhism and in fact do know a lot of the teachings. Taking refuge is not simply a tradition, it is giving our whole faith to the triple gem. Without such strong faith in the triple gem, we may waver along the way whenever we meet obstacles due to our karma. And due to our karmic imprint, it is vrey easy to waver along the way. After all, we are in the degeneration stage.Originally posted by S@mz_Rev0LuT|on:Man....i beg to to differ.....to be a buddhist u need not follow proceedures like this....in my view buddhist is just a superficial name given by man to distinguish people who practice buddhism...yah it's true in the temples they would ask u to seek refuge to the triple gem...Buddha(sumpreme teacher),dharma(knowledge)and sangha(monks)...but in my view this are traditional practices.....we shouldn't draw the line between buddhist and non-buddhist....they and us or should i say WE are all equal...seeking knowledge about darma.....just that our way of seeking the knowledge are different...provided that we keep the 5 precepts in mind..... -
Hmmmm.....i agree.....thats why we should keep the 5 basic precepts in mind....hahahahhaz.....Originally posted by Origami:Indeed we should be mindful. Yet the human mind is full of delusions and weak. We need a guide thus we take refuge. Many times people read about buddhism and in fact do know a lot of the teachings. Taking refuge is not simply a tradition, it is giving our whole faith to the triple gem. Without such strong faith in the triple gem, we may waver along the way whenever we meet obstacles due to our karma. And due to our karmic imprint, it is vrey easy to waver along the way. After all, we are in the degeneration stage. -
Then, I beg to differ you again. Taking Refuge is essential before you can be called a Buddhist, a follower of Buddha.Originally posted by S@mz_Rev0LuT|on:Man....i beg to to differ.....to be a buddhist u need not follow proceedures like this....in my view buddhist is just a superficial name given by man to distinguish people who practice buddhism...yah it's true in the temples they would ask u to seek refuge to the triple gem...Buddha(sumpreme teacher),dharma(knowledge)and sangha(monks)...but in my view this are traditional practices.....we shouldn't draw the line between buddhist and non-buddhist....they and us or should i say WE are all equal...seeking knowledge about darma.....just that our way of seeking the knowledge are different...provided that we keep the 5 precepts in mind.....
When asked, "How can I become a disciple of Buddha?", Buddha replied that he should take refuge in the Triple Jems. Taking refuge is not a Tradition, and should not be looked down upon. Without taking refuge, you are not the a disciple of the triple jem. When you take refuge, you also take refuge in a Master, or a Root Guru. Whatever tradition you are in, your Spiritual guide is important and will guide you towards liberation.
Therefore, according to the "8 Dharmas of the Bodhisattva", all bodhisattvas must inspire sentient beings, if cause and conditions are there, to take refuge in the triple jems.
Before you enter the university to study and learn and finally graduate, you have to register for it.
Buddhism is the same.
If you have not registered for University, yet you call yourself a university student, people will laugh at you.
Buddhism is the same. -
http://www.kadampa-center.org/teach4.htm
Eight Benefits to Taking Refuge in the Three Jewels
1. You become a Buddhist. A Buddhist is one who entrusts himself to the Three Jewels.
2. You establish a foundation for taking other vows.
3. All previous negativity will be purified. (This will take time however)
4. Daily creates vast positive potential. (merit)
5. Not falling into the lower realms.
6. You will remain unharmed by human or non-human beings.
7. All temporary and ultimate goals will be accomplished.
8. Swiftly attain enlightenment.
please look into the website for more info... for the following:
Six Precepts Common to the Three Jewels
"For each of the Three Jewels there are two things to be kept in mind; one is to be abandoned, the other to be advised." -
Originally posted by Xabir:
haha maybe you are mistaken about my previous post....nonono i definately will not look down at the triple gem...yes,Buddha replied that ppl should take refuge in the Triple Jems,but in my vew(correct me if i'm wrong)what he's trying to imply is that by seeking "refuge" in the triple gem...it is to learn the teachings of the darma, follow the 4 noble truths and the 8 fold path.....and when u take "refuge"...take refuge to the buddha...i mean not to him as a supreme being but to him as your supreme teacher,the reason why seeking refuge in the triple gem is so important in buddhism is not the process, but the meaning behind it...and yes i agree with you that Whatever tradition you are in, your Spiritual guide is important and will guide you towards liberation.
Then, I beg to differ you again. Taking Refuge is [b]essential before you can be called a Buddhist, a follower of Buddha.
When asked, "How can I become a disciple of Buddha?", Buddha replied that he should take refuge in the Triple Jems. Taking refuge is not a Tradition, and should not be looked down upon. Without taking refuge, you are not the a disciple of the triple jem. When you take refuge, you also take refuge in a Master, or a Root Guru. Whatever tradition you are in, your Spiritual guide is important and will guide you towards liberation.
Therefore, according to the "8 Dharmas of the Bodhisattva", all bodhisattvas must inspire sentient beings, if cause and conditions are there, to take refuge in the triple jems.
Before you enter the university to study and learn and finally graduate, you have to register for it.
Buddhism is the same.
If you have not registered for University, yet you call yourself a university student, people will laugh at you.
Buddhism is the same.[/b]
by the way in buddhism u do not have to "register" to become a buddhist, u have to learn and become a buddhist.yes, If you have not registered for University, yet you call yourself a university student, people will laugh at you.that's why i didn't dare to call myself an enlightened being....i'm in the learning process too...thats why i'm discussing buddhism with you......thats why we need to enlightened each other.......ahahhahahhahahaz......... -
Take refuge not only in Buddha but also in Dharma and Sangha, this is the triple jems.
Taking refuge and learning buddhism are different things...a person can learn buddhism as an scholar in philosophies. But he has not taken refuge.
Also, learning is not enough, we must apply Buddhadharma in our lives, because Buddhism is a Way of Life, not merely academics.
My master have mentioned before... there are two wrong views of buddhism:
1) View of Buddhism as Mysterious and Complex
2) View of Buddhism as Merely Academics.
So, of course, we should apply all the dharmas in life... -
Yes, of course, taking refuge in process is definitely not enough.
Taking Refuge is a serious commitment... not something casually done, not just something you do and forget. With faith, commitment, motivation, enlightenment will come swiftly.
This commitment to cultivate Buddhadharma, along with vows and precepts, is what starts someone on the path to enlightenment. -
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