What is wrong with employers nowadays?
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Can one,you have my 100 percent support..
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Yuh huh, right. You've just got an ice kachang craving now, haven't you? Come on, tell the truth and shame the devil!Originally posted by littlestream:Yah lah, I know lah....just trying to be naughty but Geddy, really, if one read it fast enough, the mind skip some letters/words and I came up with atap chee but I thought you romanize it mah...and with spacing.....pro!
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Originally posted by dragg:
Then, lagi jia lat!!! What kind of management is that???? Let me be Donald Trump "YOU ARE FIRED....".........I mean the director.
i was there for the 2nd interview. that asshole is the [b]director!!!
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Boo to him, dragg. Don't let that brings you down. -
Originally posted by Gedanken:Yuh huh, right. You've just got an ice kachang craving now, haven't you? Come on, tell the truth and shame the devil!
ssshhhh...........not so loud, wait my atap chee get stolen!! -
Keep trying!
Used to be unemployed for 8 whole mths. Really suck!
PS. I was from HR, although you may be ideal for the job but compare with other applicants you may not be the best choice. Maybe that was why you were not selected. -
frankly most managers know shIt about recruitment. i have seen many times how bosses sing praises about their newly recruited talent only to see them sit at their desk rotting with little or no results to show. the worst is this people just wont lose their jobs.Originally posted by DeadPoet:Keep trying!
Used to be unemployed for 8 whole mths. Really suck!
PS. I was from HR, although you may be ideal for the job but compare with other applicants you may not be the best choice. Maybe that was why you were not selected.
coz they suck up to their bosses. -
dragg, dun give up ya?
i was "out of job" for 2yr+... i hated it too.... everyday send out tons of application letter.... mostly no response... even got response also no go thru... very demoralising.... like machiam i'm not wanted in the industry anymore....
but just keep trying... one day, the opportunity will knock and u're all ready for it... -
after 911?Originally posted by tare:dragg, dun give up ya?
i was "out of job" for 2yr+... i hated it too.... everyday send out tons of application letter.... mostly no response... even got response also no go thru... very demoralising.... like machiam i'm not wanted in the industry anymore....
but just keep trying... one day, the opportunity will knock and u're all ready for it... -
dragg ah... out of curiosity... how many interviews have you gone for? how long have you been looking for a job? it's ok if you don wish to answer....
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Nothing wrong with them, they testing water and try to get the best deal. Now is so call employer market.
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well, maybe u can ..
* apply for jobs that justify your pay
* check the market price b4 the interview
* show them its the job n the company u care not the $
its tough but still have to go on looking .. cannot give up
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Empahtically disagree. There's everything wrong with them - it's just that it's such common practice that people have taken it to be normal.Originally posted by No_Problemo:Nothing wrong with them, they testing water and try to get the best deal. Now is so call employer market. -
actually i dont believe that people get jobs because they did well in an interview. most of the time it is not the case.Originally posted by zodi:think of it this way... they are probably not perfect employers too... or at least not very professional interviewers (judging from the comments they make to their interviewees)...
get over the rejections you've faced so far... focus on what you can learn from the past and how you can do better the next time round.
all the best.
my former colleague, 25, already has 3-4 offers after she left the company. (about 6 month later) she has very little working experience. why? that much is obvious!! -
I believe ageism plays a part too, but I had thought it's less of an issue with men, unless they are over 40s. But sad to say, it's an employers' mkt, so some can choose to exploit.
Anyway, keep trying, or take up temp jobs while in the midst of looking for a FT job, just to keep in circulation and get earn some spending money. -
with a diploma in sales, itc in mechatronics and more than a decade of experience in industrial sales/customer service i cant find a job even when i am asking only for less than $2k.
really damn frustrating!!! -
wat does it gotta to do with 911??Originally posted by dragg:after 911?
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well, if they don't hv results to show, i am sure they will hv to face the 'music' in a matter time...(how long will depend how lucky or how blind the managers are)Originally posted by dragg:frankly most managers know shIt about recruitment. i have seen many times how bosses sing praises about their newly recruited talent only to see them sit at their desk rotting with little or no results to show. the worst is this people just wont lose their jobs.
coz they suck up to their bosses. -
a lot of businesses failed after sep 11 attack. the economy has not really been good since then.Originally posted by tare:wat does it gotta to do with 911?? -
realise (thru my hubby) many companies have more than 2 interviews to go...highly stressful and time consuming....Originally posted by dragg:it is really making me crazy having to go through the whole cycle over and over again.
response to an advertisement.
wait for closing date and see if they response - normally 2 weeks.
go for 1st interview - wait a few more days to see if shortlisted for 2nd interview.
go for 2nd interview - wait in vain.
i cannot stand it anymore!!!!
but by having so many interviews are they effective ??( interms of finding the rite person?) u want to find the good one. the good ones also will want a good company wah....never ending.....
these days, HR are putting in lots of effort on interviews but can u tell from intereviews?? i don't know.... -
frankly i find the whole procedure a waste of time.Originally posted by a_splash:realise (thru my hubby) many companies have more than 2 interviews to go...highly stressly and time consuming....
but by having so many interviews are they effective ??( interms of finding the rite person?) u want to find the good one. the good ones also will want a good company wah....never ending.....
these days, HR are putting in lots of effort on interviews but can u tell from intereviews?? i don't know....
from my understanding the first interview is normally conducted but the HR, the second by the person whom the candidate will eventually report to. -
nah tat wasn't cos of 911..... long story ....Originally posted by dragg:a lot of businesses failed after sep 11 attack. the economy has not really been good since then. -
i once applied for this admin job for a yacht club. i had somethings over other applicants, my english o lvl grade. but waht killed me was my NS liability.
ironic when i called up another one 1 hr after i left, they essentially told me no because i havent do NS.
i then applied for john little's sales helper. put down 1k/mth, no news.
intro-ed into current temp job that pays me 1k + a few bucks per mth. basic take home pay. dunno got OT pay or not. -
how did you survive 2 years without a job?Originally posted by tare:nah tat wasn't cos of 911..... long story ....
i am 19 months into it and the clock is still ticking.
i find it mentally stressful. -
well no work, no go out... no go out no spend $$....Originally posted by dragg:how did you survive 2 years without a job?
i am 19 months into it and the clock is still ticking.
i find it mentally stressful.
and a BIG difference is i'm married lah.... but after 2 yrs + hubby also fed up, kick me out to work
yes it's very stressful... took me half a yr to get used to asking for $$.... gosh i work so long, nvr ask $$ frm anyone leh
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In Singapore, majority of the employers advertised their job vacancy in the newspaper BUT in actual facts, they are simply NOT interested to hire the locals... due to $$$. They rather employ foreigners coz they can do the job and the pay is acceptable to them(employer). But if that is the case, why do they still want to advertised?
The Reason : They can report to Ministry of Labour / Manpower that the locals are asking for TOO MUCH thus they can have the "permission" to hire the foreigners to cover the job.Originally posted by dragg:on both occasions they said i am perfect for the job and commented that my asking pay is low, but eventually did not offer me the job.
isnt that contradictory?
dont employers want workers that are cheap and good?