Traditional Chinese Wedding Dinner Horrors!!
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FWAH! hehehe just missing a morning and wow.. so many extra pages...
Oh well... i think the most important thing at the end of all this debate
is to quote this famous quote:
...grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
And those if you cannot change, then don't gripe over it anymore la! Find the silver lining, just do it and enjoy the day!
You can't change the way people think... but you CAN change the way you think. -
If you can't change the old, change the young. They will in turn re-educate the new young ones.Originally posted by ShrodingersCat:FWAH! hehehe just missing a morning and wow.. so many extra pages...
Oh well... i think the most important thing at the end of all this debate
is to quote this famous quote:
...grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
And those if you cannot change, then don't gripe over it anymore la! Find the silver lining, just do it and enjoy the day!
You can't change the way people think... but you CAN change the way you think. -
Trouble is, going by how the young think in here, the future looks pretty bleak!Originally posted by Nelstar:If you can't change the old, change the young. They will in turn re-educate the new young ones. 
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future looks pretty bleak? in what way?Originally posted by Rhonda:Trouble is, going by how the young think in here, the future looks pretty bleak! -
Well, I'm pretty much liberal.Originally posted by Rhonda:Trouble is, going by how the young think in here, the future looks pretty bleak! 
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Too liberal till you're a paedophile.Originally posted by iveco:Well, I'm pretty much liberal. -
Originally posted by Nelstar:Too liberal till you're a paedophile.
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Hmm... I think there's a HUGE difference between being 'liberal' and being 'immoral', and the two are not interchangeable!
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I agree with you in all entirety. If Nellie's logic were followed to the last letter, the contributors at Open Minded would certainly be paedos. However, I'm going way off topic and shall stop here.Originally posted by Rhonda:Hmm... I think there's a HUGE difference between being 'liberal' and being 'immoral', and the two are not interchangeable! 
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and the broken record just goes on n on n on.....Originally posted by iveco:I agree with you in all entirety. If Nellie's logic were followed to the last letter, the contributors at Open Minded would certainly be paedos. However, I'm going way off topic and shall stop here. -
The subject we're discussing is an immoral paedophile.Originally posted by iveco:I agree with you in all entirety. If Nellie's logic were followed to the last letter, the contributors at Open Minded would certainly be paedos. However, I'm going way off topic and shall stop here. -
but that's the thing you see..
people think differently. you got to accept that.
Even in US where they use the gift registry
people think it is very materialistic too... some couples ask for very expensive gifts, others complain about how people only buy the cheapest possible..how some people say when people have gift registry it means the couple EXPECT you to buy something for them... it's the same thing... same problems with a different face. etc etc...
And in many other countries too, the cost of a wedding can run up to many thousands of dollars...
ultimately the people who will see gift giving as an expect thing, a crass things, or spoil the spirit that a gift should be given (whether as a giver OR a receiver), they will simply.. do it.
A wedding dinner in itself is a truly meaningful thing. An angpow was originally a meaningful gift. Do you abolish the entire custom because of people who corrupt it? How about birthdays? Funerals (got give peh kim)? -
Liberal is a big circle which can actually accommodate immoral ways.
Liberal = Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=liberal
Keyword is orthodox.
Adhering to the accepted or traditional and established faith, especially in religion. (aka morals)
And if iveco cannot accept immoral ways, then how come he can stand himself having fetish of an underaged girl? -
Technically, someone who crushes over a person less than 15 years his junior can't be called paedo cos he isn't old enuff to be his target's parent.
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Paedophile
Main Entry: pe·do·phile
Pronunciation: 'pEd-&-"fIl, 'ped-
Variant: or chiefly British pae·do·phile /'pEd-/
Function: noun
: one affected with pedophilia called also pedophiliac
Source: Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.
paedophile
n : an adult who is sexually attracted to children [syn: pedophile]
Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University -
Like I mentioned before, the art of giving is to give without expectation, and to give willingly.Originally posted by ShrodingersCat:but that's the thing you see..
people think differently. you got to accept that.
Even in US where they use the gift registry
people think it is very materialistic too... some couples ask for very expensive gifts, others complain about how people only buy the cheapest possible..how some people say when people have gift registry it means the couple EXPECT you to buy something for them... it's the same thing... same problems with a different face. etc etc...
And in many other countries too, the cost of a wedding can run up to many thousands of dollars...
ultimately the people who will see gift giving as an expect thing, a crass things, or spoil the spirit that a gift should be given (whether as a giver OR a receiver), they will simply.. do it.
A wedding dinner in itself is a truly meaningful thing. An angpow was originally a meaningful gift. Do you abolish the entire custom because of people who corrupt it? How about birthdays? Funerals (got give peh kim)?
I hate to oblige others due to some customary practised over the years with its value dragged by those barbaric idiots who comments about the amount given.
The wedding dinner is but an event. It's like choosing between char kway teow and abalone soup. You can alway re-invent the event.
The angpow is a meaningful gift, but the best gift during a wedding is not the number of gifts collected, but the number of sincere wishes amongst the guests. I rather have more sincere wishes, than to have more gifts.
The material gift is nothing but a farce to showoff one's capability nowadays such that I rather force my guest to do without.
'Ren lai jiu ke yi, hong bao fang zai jia li'.
Nothing is better than having a good crowd than one that goes on about how much the table's worth. -
No wedding.
No problems.
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So you're saying it's ok for a 14 year old to want to marry a baby?Originally posted by iveco:Technically, someone who crushes over a person less than 15 years his junior can't be called paedo cos he isn't old enuff to be his target's parent.
YOU ARE ABSURD! -
(What the...this thread has trebled in size since I last looked!
LOL at the deviations too! But I'll return to the topic for a moment)
Pages ago, Malay weddings were mentioned, and that's reminded me of the disappearance of tok panjang - home-cooked Peranakan feasts which consumed required plenty of labour. I'd rather have them because our families would know what sort of food we're sensitive to.
Speaking of which...(to kikq)...when the time comes, you can ask your relatives about what they think of having to eat Oriental/South-East Asian food...and I'll ask mine about having your cuisine at a traditional banquet. As soon as we get the answers we want, problem solved. -
yoz Kuali!Originally posted by Kuali Baba:(What the...this thread has trebled in size since I last looked! LOL at the deviations too! But I'll return to the topic for a moment)
Pages ago, Malay weddings were mentioned, and that's reminded me of the disappearance of tok panjang - home-cooked Peranakan feasts which consumed required plenty of labour. I'd rather have them because our families would know what sort of food we're sensitive to.
Speaking of which...(to kikq)...when the time comes, you can ask your relatives about what they think of having to eat Oriental/South-East Asian food...and I'll ask mine about having your cuisine at a traditional banquet. As soon as we get the answers we want, problem solved.
Yea, you reminded me that we had to arrange a table then for a Halal table for my brother's muslim friends.
And also a vegetarian table.
It kinds of complicate issues, but I find that it was a compromise that we definitely must have.
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grandma's vegetarian..Originally posted by Nelstar:yoz Kuali!
Yea, you reminded me that we had to arrange a table then for a Halal table for my brother's muslim friends.
And also a vegetarian table.
It kinds of complicate issues, but I find that it was a compromise that we definitely must have. -
Originally posted by Nelstar:
as you put it so appropriately, right and wrong are often beliefs... highly subjective...
I always believe the wrong concept was too widely spread and became contagious. The idea of spreading the mass damage for the face value to the guests is ugly.
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live and let live then
i wonder if things can be settled the way some things are settled at work.. sit at a table and hammer it out
but somehow, like someone has said, it'll probably start about 25 family feuds and maybe sabres and pistols at dawn -
Cant be helped la. I get overly enthusiastic at times.Originally posted by neuros:as you put it so appropriately, right and wrong are often beliefs... highly subjective...