Little Kiki died. She could have done with some help
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Since last year, I've been thinking of this -
Perhaps, neighbourhoods should set up a system whereby doctors, nurses, paramedics, and certified First Aiders living in the estate should be recruited to be part of a volunteer emergency aid team.
But then again, come to think of it, residents might abuse the system and start calling up those on the list for every little problem and make themselves a general nuisance.
Plus, that would mean a loss of privacy to some extent to those on the contact list.
I guess if people understand that the people on the list should be contacted only in REAL emergencies, the system would work, since these folks would be able to reach you much faster than an ambulance would.
I think it's gonna take a loooong loooong time before we can reach the standard in developed nations like the US - people voluntarily opt to learn CPR and/or First Aid because they are civic-minded and think about society at large, instead of focusing just on themselves. -
ambulance might be faster..but at that point of time,you just wana rush the kid to the hospital..well nonetheless no matter the circumstances,the police still should have helped..
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do not forget that the "civic-minded" people in other countries which a lot of people talk about, are also in existence in Singapore..
just like there will be rubberneckers, horrid people who take advantage of the tragedy of others will be there too, just like they are here...
all we need to do is to see the tragedies in 9/11 where with total disregard for their own lives, firefighters went in and died..
and in Katrina where people went on a looting spree when there was an absence of police..
there are civic minded people who will go out their way to help too... only they are not so evident.. but they also serve, those who stand in reserve... -
come to think of it, approaching a clinic is a better choice under the circumstances.
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Actually if you were to say abt the taxi driver, sometimes it is not he or she dun wanna help, but the conscience would be there if the girl died on the way...
As for the police officer, it is totally unacceptable -
my gut feeling tells me the taxi driver refusal to help stems from his superstition. he does not want someone to die in his taxi.Originally posted by sbst275:Actually if you were to say abt the taxi driver, sometimes it is not he or she dun wanna help, but the conscience would be there if the girl died on the way...
As for the police officer, it is totally unacceptable -
It is still up to 1's thinkingOriginally posted by dragg:my gut feeling tells me the taxi driver refusal to help stems from his superstition. he does not want someone to die in his taxi. -
should get a car.
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But at least the police should see what is happening or stop the car... since someone horn.....
cannot just don't respond to the horning.Originally posted by shinta:is he obliged to do that in the first place?
how would the police have known whats the matter when all he might have heared was a horn?
thats what u think. is that acceptable in sg law? -
Originally posted by Rhonda:First-off, I totally agree with MeowSusan's message - that everyone ought to go and learn basic First Aid.
In certain critical incidents, eg. choking, drowning, calling an ambulance won't help because the first 3 mins would be the most critical. Administer the Heimlich Manoeuvre immediately for folks who are choking (there's a special manoeuvre for choking babies), and CPR for those who have drowned.
All said, it would have done the mom well to run to the nearest clinic, if it's really nearby. Otherwise, call an ambulance! Whilst waiting for the ambulance, ASK the operator to tell you what you can do in the meantime. The paramedics are trained to handle such emergencies and there is equipment on board the ambulance that will be useful in such critical situations.
Still, nothing beats having a first-hand knowledge of First Aid. It's one of the responsibilities of being a parent.
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for the mother in that circumstances she could have been too panic to think of calling the ambulance. it's disheartening to suggest when everything was too late.Originally posted by MeOwSuSan:Base on the story ....
she should call for ambulance...
for cab take note Woodland to KKH very far the child ...
at aleast there someone to help her before she reach hospital.
May be she is not claim ....
Alway remenber call for ambulance!!!
nonetheless in future cases yes agree call for the ambulance. -
i also agree with meowsusan
if not next time go outing no free food -
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my condolences go all out to the family members.
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the system as you said got privacy issue bah i guess the thign is to let them volunteer only lor but hten once they volunteer hard to withdraw le.........Originally posted by Rhonda:Since last year, I've been thinking of this -
Perhaps, neighbourhoods should set up a system whereby doctors, nurses, paramedics, and certified First Aiders living in the estate should be recruited to be part of a volunteer emergency aid team.
But then again, come to think of it, residents might abuse the system and start calling up those on the list for every little problem and make themselves a general nuisance.
Plus, that would mean a loss of privacy to some extent to those on the contact list.
I guess if people understand that the people on the list should be contacted only in REAL emergencies, the system would work, since these folks would be able to reach you much faster than an ambulance would.
I think it's gonna take a loooong loooong time before we can reach the standard in developed nations like the US - people voluntarily opt to learn CPR and/or First Aid because they are civic-minded and think about society at large, instead of focusing just on themselves. -
I also don't trust my fellow Singaporeans cum neighbours to understand what's a REAL emergency.Originally posted by hisoka:the system as you said got privacy issue bah i guess the thign is to let them volunteer only lor but hten once they volunteer hard to withdraw le......... I'm sure there'll be folks kicking my door down just because of the sniffles or tummyache at midnight or other non-life-threatening ailments! -
extracted from ST forums.
In an emergency, anyone who can help should help even if it takes some risks
I am saddened by the death of the little girl Kiki (ST Online Forum Oct 31).
The Comfort cabby and the police patrol which declined to help the sick girl being rushed to hospital show how insensitive and heartless are some of our professionals. A life could have been saved if they had some sense and compassion.
My concern is, will Singaporeans learn a lesson from this? Being a former cabby, I had rushed a pregnant woman from Sun Plaza to KK Hospital when she told me that her water-bag would burst at any moment. She was profusely thankful that I tried my best.
In an emergency, I believe that anyone who is in a position to help must take some risks to help our fellow citizens.
I was told that in case of emergency and if this is confirmed by the hospital, the Traffic Police may consider not taking action against the speeding driver.
Can the authorities enlighten us on this?
Raymond Lo Wan Mou -
I am also thinking along this line...but the thing is...its more of security concern than safety for not stopping,if not stopping...seriously I dunno what I would do then...Originally posted by shinta:Partly, yes.
Partly, I was gg along this line.. what if i'm the driver?
I'd be concentrating on the roads instead of the pavements... To look elsewhere and lose concentration may spell accident...
and like what most ppl say, she should have called teh ambulance... so.. instead of blaming other ppl, she should blame herself.
it's blurdy hard to get a cab in sg...
yes i noe we have a lot of cabs on the roads, but i dun think i saw enuff empty ones for hire...
not too sure if what I am writting above makes sense...my point is...as a driver...being aware of ur surroundings is part of the driving skill...whether U want to stop or not isnt. -
there are local organisations offering first aid course...I think it's better than reading a book...go ask around ur neighbourhood...CCs...RCs...etc...can go to www.pa.gov.sg if U are lazy to do it physically....another way is to email St. John Ambulance and see if they conduct such courses at a time and place suitable for U...Originally posted by MeOwSuSan:journey from woodland to KKH is more than 25 min to 30 min....
at least during the journey oxygen can be given....
at leart it help ...
they can give the child some first Aid it help alot ....
as for the mother she should try to clear the child air way and check is the food in the mouth....
my child also like that ....
must know some first aid base, by reading book it help alot. -
would be helpful if got plate number of the mata...make sure he kenna...Originally posted by The man who was death:Police never do anything
go to hell mata!!! -
question is...would U follow the crowd and do nothing?Originally posted by shinta:no, i dun support that... but thats what i see -
ya lor...human is like that one...progress for the sake of progress...Originally posted by MeOwSuSan:when i only thirteen I save my sis's son who have choke a sweet. I qucikly remove the sweet from his month when he turn purple you know...
last time ur action would be correct...
now maybe correct action is to take chopsticks and pull the sweet out...danger of him bitting ur fingers
maybe later few years down the road...have to do MRI scan first before doing anything to the sweet...
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i have not met with anything like this before, so i can't comment on this.Originally posted by Xcert:question is...would U follow the crowd and do nothing?
i can say i will not follow, but when the real thing happens to me, i might follow the crowd n do otherwise.
tho i do hope that i won't do nth.. -
GOOD BOY !!!Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:i also agree with meowsusan
if not next time go outing no free food
I call you next for curry chicken ....but you must bring bread . -
will i get a share of the curry chicken.Originally posted by MeOwSuSan:GOOD BOY !!!
I call you next for curry chicken ....but you must bring bread .
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