Club 30's "Kill the Boredom Demon" Jive Pad, 33rd Edition
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Sad thing is sometimes the other half is so heavily dominated that they lose focus on what is right or wrong and becomes the assistant instead. That is why we see so many sick news in the papers about mother helping the dather rape the daugther or gf helping bf rape another girlOriginally posted by the Bear:i wonder how the other half of such a predator will be able to bear with the thought if he/she knew? -
That's what I plan to ask her if they both turn up at ViennaOriginally posted by the Bear:i wonder how the other half of such a predator will be able to bear with the thought if he/she knew?
but I guess, according to VK, that's not going to happen. -
The gentleman of the old era =Originally posted by the Bear:i guess the gentle art of chivalry is dead to many...
and from what i see, the right not to be molested has suddenly become a privilege... to be taken away as and when another person grabs your arm...
a sad strange world we live in...
1. Always avoid one-to-one contact with women when they are married, attached
2. Always willing to offer help
3. Always standing at a distance from women
4. Always smiling, and greeting everyone
5. Always walk in such a stupidly slow pace that he can easily avoid conflicts/. -
still might lah.Originally posted by av98m:That's what I plan to ask her if they both turn up at Vienna
but I guess, according to VK, that's not going to happen.
he never out-right say no.
he just was disgusted to meet me, cos i give him indigestiion.
he and his other half should turn up for vienna. i afterall did emphasise more then 2 times that i am not in sg. -
neh'mine.Originally posted by viciouskitty74:still might lah.
he never out-right say no.
he just was disgusted to meet me, cos i give him indigestiion.
he and his other half should turn up for vienna. i afterall did emphasise more then 2 times that i am not in sg.
if he shows up I'll give him indigestion. -
that's the misconception...
smiling greeting everyone?? no.. being courteous will do.. and courtesy means more than just smiling and all that.. much much MUCH more...
as for the last one, if you think so, sheesh.. you've been hoodwinked
the fact that the gentleman will be beyond reproach so much so that anyone will feel safe in that person's presence.. and so much so that others will not hesitate to entrust the care of their wives or girlfriends in the care of the gentleman, knowing full well that their other halves will be safe from harm and that he will not even think of anything but the welfare of the lady entrusted to him..Originally posted by Nelstar:The gentleman of the old era =
1. Always avoid one-to-one contact with women when they are married, attached
2. Always willing to offer help
3. Always standing at a distance from women
4. Always smiling, and greeting everyone
5. Always walk in such a stupidly slow pace that he can easily avoid conflicts/. -
AV has turned on his killer instinctsOriginally posted by av98m:neh'mine.
if he shows up I'll give him indigestion.
I still think his skin is not too thick as this incident will be fresh upon the minds of all -
*$%#
some asswipe is on medical leave today.. and his section can't get their collective acts together enough to get someone else to cover him to present something...
and somehow, the effing taichi experts pushed the damned thing to me
WTF??
how come i'm covering someone from another section?? -
Suddenly Bear reminds me of Alice.... >.<Originally posted by the Bear:*$%#
some asswipe is on medical leave today.. and his section can't get their collective acts together enough to get someone else to cover him to present something...
and somehow, the effing taichi experts pushed the damned thing to me
WTF??
how come i'm covering someone from another section?? -
actually, i think everyone's getting pissed off with that guy.. everytime there's something important to do, he goes missing
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first is was it rapeOriginally posted by viciouskitty74:How about we introduce the subject of a wife and husband.
where the wife is not innocent, but was rape by the husband. Can that explain the situation better?
its again a situation where its 1 word for another.
so can't comment. -
gentlemen? after semi-difining it, lets go on to why its desirable for males/females to have and display it shall we?Originally posted by the Bear:that's the misconception...
smiling greeting everyone?? no.. being courteous will do.. and courtesy means more than just smiling and all that.. much much MUCH more...
as for the last one, if you think so, sheesh.. you've been hoodwinked
the fact that the gentleman will be beyond reproach so much so that anyone will feel safe in that person's presence.. and so much so that others will not hesitate to entrust the care of their wives or girlfriends in the care of the gentleman, knowing full well that their other halves will be safe from harm and that he will not even think of anything but the welfare of the lady entrusted to him..
unfortunately no person is beyond reproach or be unable to think of anythign but the welfare of whatever lady is handed to him. besides that sounds abit far from equality, which the ladies are clamouring for -
you asked the same question about religion...
do we live in a world so machiavellian that everything we do must result in some profit for ourselves?
where does altruism or just doing something good for someone else lie then?
if that is dead, the world is doomed...
p.s. we all strive to be a gentleman.. few if any reach that.. even Sir Launcelot of the Lake, the greatest of them all was found wanting..
we never achieve perfection, but in the pursuit of it, we find our humanity.. in the pursuit of it, we define ourselves more than mere animals...
if an animal can do something as noble as protect and love its master unconditionally, dare we, as humans, do less?Originally posted by hisoka:gentlemen? after semi-difining it, lets go on to why its desirable for males/females to have and display it shall we?
unfortunately no person is beyond reproach or be unable to think of anythign but the welfare of whatever lady is handed to him. besides that sounds abit far from equality, which the ladies are clamouring for -
well unless you want to define it in the same breath as religion, i haven't heard or seen an act of true altruism.Originally posted by the Bear:you asked the same question about religion...
do we live in a world so machiavellian that everything we do must result in some profit for ourselves?
where does altruism or just doing something good for someone else lie then?
if that is dead, the world is doomed...
every act even if we did it out of concern of others benefits(or lessens/prevents hurt) him/herself. -
he only preys on younger women.Originally posted by tare:btw he do appear in our outings mah.. last being sentosa outing. i walk ard in bikini also okie wat...
anw gals in club30 ain't tat "quiet" de.... -
does it?
you asked the same question of religion, seeking to gain from being "faithful" to one...
if you seek to gain from something like that, perhaps it would not be faith anymore.. it's trade...
and when we do something for someone you love, do you think of how it would profit you?
if it doesn't, does it mean you won't do it?Originally posted by hisoka:well unless you want to define it in the same breath as religion, i haven't heard or seen an act of true altruism.
every act even if we did it out of concern of others benefits(or lessens/prevents hurt) him/herself. -
do i hear the sounds of claw sharpening?Originally posted by stellazio:he only preys on younger women. -
is tis the benefit of being old?!Originally posted by stellazio:he only preys on younger women.
still i choose to take it negatively *hammer si gina*
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its benefits youbecause you care for the person and doing somehting for the person makes you feel happier. or less guilty.Originally posted by the Bear:does it?
you asked the same question of religion, seeking to gain from being "faithful" to one...
if you seek to gain from something like that, perhaps it would not be faith anymore.. it's trade...
and when we do something for someone you love, do you think of how it would profit you?
if it doesn't, does it mean you won't do it?
you need not think. it need not be a totally conscious maneuver.
you are repeating the same thing too. its not trade. the other party may not offer you anything. the act itself might satisfy you and be the payment/motive for your action -
if it doesn't benefit me, it doesn't matter... in fact, if it benefits me, it doesn't matter either...
we do it out of love.. it is not because of anything... love of God, love of our fellow men, love for humanity, love of life...
the moment we start to think "i can benefit from this" like you seem to keep thinking about, it is really "good" that we do or is an ulterior motive that motivates you?
what motivates you?Originally posted by hisoka:its benefits youbecause you care for the person and doing somehting for the person makes you feel happier. or less guilty.
you need not think. it need not be a totally conscious maneuver.
you are repeating the same thing too. its not trade. the other party may not offer you anything. the act itself might satisfy you and be the payment/motive for your action -
Originally posted by stellazio:he only preys on younger women.
thats usually the case of these predators -
its does benefit you. you do it because you want to do it. in carrying it out you fulfil your need to do it. you do it because you think your love compels you and requires you to do it.Originally posted by the Bear:if it doesn't benefit me, it doesn't matter... in fact, if it benefits me, it doesn't matter either...
we do it out of love.. it is not because of anything... love of God, love of our fellow men, love for humanity, love of life...
the moment we start to think "i can benefit from this" like you seem to keep thinking about, it is really "good" that we do or is an ulterior motive that motivates you?
what motivates you?
you may not think whether you will benefit, but you do it because it will benefit you. -
if you truly believe that, then I feel sorry for you.Originally posted by hisoka:well unless you want to define it in the same breath as religion, i haven't heard or seen an act of true altruism.
every act even if we did it out of concern of others benefits(or lessens/prevents hurt) him/herself. -
thxOriginally posted by av98m:if you truly believe that, then I feel sorry for you.
can't find a single act that does the doer no perceived benefit though
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ahhh.. i guess you don't see it..
you keep looking at how it may or may not benefit you...
for a person who does things out of love, kindness or chivalry, that thought never crosses his mind..
sadly, that person will be taken advantage of... but what does it matter?
People are often unreasonable, irrational, and self-centered.
Forgive them anyway.
If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives.
Be kind anyway.
If you are successful, you will win some unfaithful friends and some genuine enemies.
Succeed anyway.
If you are honest and sincere people may deceive you.
Be honest and sincere anyway.
What you spend years creating, others could destroy overnight.
Create anyway.
If you find serenity and happiness, some may be jealous.
Be happy anyway.
The good you do today, will often be forgotten.
Do good anyway.
Give the best you have, and it will never be enough.
Give your best anyway.
In the final analysis, it is between you and God.
It was never between you and them anyway.
that's the Paradoxical Commandments, but given a twist by Mother Teresa.. who never questioned the "benefits to herself" of what she did for her ministry.. it was never for herself, to care for the least of humanity, is to care for God.. and it was the love of God which she did it all..Originally posted by hisoka:its does benefit you. you do it because you want to do it. in carrying it out you fulfil your need to do it. you do it because you think your love compels you and requires you to do it.
you may not think whether you will benefit, but you do it because it will benefit you.