Club 30: World of Warcraft War Room 2
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Originally posted by tare:
no diff for me lah... if they raid, i also stand ard bank nia hahahhaaa....
i'm still reading on warlock specs.. i think something wrong with my afflic specs... reading destro specs also... nice for dps but cannot heal myself liao... read until headache >.<
I like demon/dest but hor if pet die no demonic embrace lose alot of dps.... I still deciding on afflic/dest or pure dest.... My dps also kns.. gonna try a new cycle i got from maxdps.com later... B
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Wah lau my office PC damn CMI so many repeat posts
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wah liao if ur dps no good then i wat? *hide one corner and sob*
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Originally posted by tare:
wah liao if ur dps no good then i wat? *hide one corner and sob*
yours is epic..
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Originally posted by stellazio:
yours is epic..
Dun be mean na >.< tare got the heart to learn while some just cbf and wan ppl to hold their hands thru their own fuking WoW life.
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i'm so tempted to get this....
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get WoW?
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ya but then again...hmmm =/
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get get! WoW is the way to go!
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Quote from: Ghostcrawler (Source)Hunters of all specs, and particularly Beastmaster, are doing too much damage in PvE.
We tested this a lot internally in beta and knew hunters were high but we hoped other classes would be able to catch up in a way they have as yet been unable to do. We want to be careful not to hurt hunter dps too much in PvP, so we’re taking most of the damage out of Steady Shot and Volley. Beastmaster hunters are in addition losing some of their pet dps. We still want BMs to have the best pets, but pet dps numbers are a little high at the moment. We are also still concerned about hunter survivability in PvP and taking the opportunity to jazz up Deterrence into something that looks and plays a little more interesting.
These are not all of the changes we are working on for hunters, but those changes we feel are ready for testing. We hope to get these changes up on the PTR so players will have a chance to test them out and respond before they go live.
- Steady Shot – now only gains 10% of attack power as damage (down from 20%).
- Volley – reduced the damage by about 30% for all ranks. Note that AE damage from many classes is very high right now and we are looking at all of them. Volley in particular had reached the point where some hunters were using it to the exclusion of most other attacks.
- Readiness – no longer affects the cooldown of Bestial Wrath.
- Deterrence – has been completely overhauled. It now allows you to deflect 100% of incoming melee or spell damage for 5 seconds, but prevents you from attacking while active. You still must be facing the attacker to deflect the damage (this is a limitation we are trying and might end up removing). 60 sec cooldown.
- Kill Shot – cooldown reduced to 15 sec (from 35 sec).
- Kindrid Spirits – now only grants 3/6/9/12/15% pet damage.
- Serpent’s Swiftness – now only grants 2/4/6/8/10% bonus attack speed to pet.
- All hunter pet abilities with a cooldown longer than 30 sec have been moved off the global cooldown.
- Growl— threat generation increased by 20% (same for
Voidwalker Torment). - Call of the Wild – now benefits only the hunter and his or her pet.
- Rake and Scorpid Poison – slightly nerfed to bring them into line with other pet abilities.
- Spirit Strike – reduced the period on the dot so it will work better with Longevity.
- Improved Tracking – now benefits damage to all included creature types as long as you are tracking one of them. You don’t have to swap around what you are tracking as much.
- Aspect of the Wild – now raid-wide.
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I did say these are not all the hunter changes we're working on. Some we haven't quite worked out yet and others (one exciting one in particular concerning ammo) won't be ready until Ulduar or so.
We think MM was too high and BM was way too high. Survival is probably a little low. We are looking at buffing Survival, possibly through Explosive Shot, but we haven't finalized that yet.
The Deterrence change is defintely something we'll need to see in action on the PTR.
I don't want to do a disservice to all the good PvP feedback by attempting to boil it down too much. However, in general a lot of hunters were concerned about being able to do damage as much as they were concerned about being able to survive damage. We don't expect the Deterrence change to solve the former problem obviously. We're still working on that one, but we wanted to go ahead and announce what changes we have now so that you guys can be chewing on them.
Nerfing classes is never fun. It means that our initial tests and estimates didn't play out in the real world, which is a failing on our part, not anything the players did wrong. While buffing is a lot more fun, we think we'd get to crazy land too quickly by trying to make current BM dps the new benchmark. That would mean touching virtually every other class and spec as well as many encounters. While it might produce more positive PR in the short-term, it's a ton more work in the long-term that we would rather spend on new content or other problem areas.
Also, the sky is not falling. We're posting here so we can get feedback. Threats of rerolling or that sort of melodrama aren't really giving us any information we need. I can understand while you might want to vent a little bit, but posts with nothing but QQ aren't helpful.GG -.- -
Originally posted by stellazio:
yours is epic..
*spray insecticide* gggrrr~~~~ -
Sigh .. BM bread and butter is always the pet and steady shots .. And now they are going to nerf the pet and steady shot .. The only spec i can go to is MM or maybe Surv as a raid support =| kiss gdbye to my dps *sob sob*
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Originally posted by Midlusionz:
Dun be mean na >.< tare got the heart to learn while some just cbf and wan ppl to hold their hands thru their own fuking WoW life.
i want ppl to hold my hands too hahahahaaanw i adjusted my talents pt, still afflic/dest and changed spell cycle... hopefully it is better now >.<
but dun have recount so dunnoe how i doing...
last nite did normal occulus... it's a MOUNT quest!!! damn it! still working on trash mobs (dragon).. but when it come to boss... >.< spam everything also not working... end up whole party died except me cos i NEVER aggro QQ basically they down it with 4 >.<
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Originally posted by fairlady_xoxo:
i'm so tempted to get this....
Get it and join us on Jubei'thois :PStill level 77
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Originally posted by tare:
i want ppl to hold my hands too hahahahaaanw i adjusted my talents pt, still afflic/dest and changed spell cycle... hopefully it is better now >.<
but dun have recount so dunnoe how i doing...
last nite did normal occulus... it's a MOUNT quest!!! damn it! still working on trash mobs (dragon).. but when it come to boss... >.< spam everything also not working... end up whole party died except me cos i NEVER aggro QQ basically they down it with 4 >.<
Your dps improved tare
Your dps almost on par with mine this time and not far behind
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Actually I'm very tempted to respec back to Arcane coz KNS yesterday Occulus I could hardly DPS at all due to all the movements :x
At least with Arcane I have instant casts instead of fire blast only :x
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LOL i never finish occulus in Heroic mode cos of the last boss we did with 1 red 2 green 2 bronze .. The whelping came out too fast and time stop CD is too long to cope with the enrage and whelpings. U took wat dragon?
Anyway tare go download recount @ wow.curse.com, it's a good way to improve yourself by looking at the chart and taking note why u do so much and why u did much lesser.
Sigh, hunter is going down the drain liao =| last night i totally no mood to play WoW LFG for H CoT for 30 mins no ppl reply i go sleep liao LOL
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Originally posted by elindra:
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I WANNA BE PART OF ALL THE PROGRESSION *cries*
I'm a machoist. I like learning wipes!!!
haha el, yester we tried heroic uk with death and val, with me going heals. wipefest lol.
dun mind ar death, i still learning the ropes there. zz
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Ohh so yesterday u were in Uk with death yesterday i login my uber lvl 3 rogue i see u all busy then i go sleep liao lol
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Originally posted by milith:
haha el, yester we tried heroic uk with death and val, with me going heals. wipefest lol.
dun mind ar death, i still learning the ropes there. zz
You might be undergeared too
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Originally posted by elindra:
Your dps improved tare
Your dps almost on par with mine this time and not far behind
got improved is good! hehehee... altho we diff lvl lah (which means i still sucks) but at least got improved *self comfort*yah i hate the moving ard... i only got 3 instant DoT... the rest all have to cast leh.... >.<
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Originally posted by tare:
got improved is good! hehehee... altho we diff lvl lah (which means i still sucks) but at least got improved *self comfort*yah i hate the moving ard... i only got 3 instant DoT... the rest all have to cast leh.... >.<
I only got 1 spell lorI think I will go Arcane till I see the raids coz Frostfire is fun but if like Moo say all the fights have to move a lot, I don't see how I'm going to DPS as Frostfire >.<
You are closing the gap la. I think last time you also 3 lvls higher than me but our DPS diff is very wide. Now at least it's closer :)
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Originally posted by tare:
got improved is good! hehehee... altho we diff lvl lah (which means i still sucks) but at least got improved *self comfort*yah i hate the moving ard... i only got 3 instant DoT... the rest all have to cast leh.... >.<
Get recount and if u are willing to realli see wat can be improve i bet u will be hohoho!
U mean the 2nd boss ma? or the 3rd?
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Originally posted by milith:
haha el, yester we tried heroic uk with death and val, with me going heals. wipefest lol.
dun mind ar death, i still learning the ropes there. zz
borm it's okie de... wait til i bec healer! wahahahahahahaa B no choice, he'll HAVE to tank for me... GGactually should be new tank go with Moo, and u go with Yan or B lah... like dat at least easier to learn...
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Yeah I heard the tank a bit undergeared also
But sometimes being undergeared and placed in a hard situation force you to learn