Realize the Dao
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how does one become one with the Dao?
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Eliminate until none.
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First of all tell me what is Tao.
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how does one become with the Tao?
it means, his action, his words and his mind is with the tao.
The work of Tao is virtue and thus one need to achieve virtue.
How does one achieve virtue? one can start by cultivating goodness in daily lives. No need to retreat into any mountains and forest if our mind is not clear.
keep our mind clear and control our desire to achieve a state of peace and tranquility.
To study Tao, study Lao Tze(Tai shang lao jun)'s Tao Te Ching and Tai Shang Gan Yin Pin(Tai shang's words of goodness).
What is Tao? Tao is the source of all things, the origin of the universe. The way of life, the law of nature. The moving force, spiritual force of the whole cosmic. The Tao is the one and the one rises the two, the two rises three and three give birth to all things.
Tao is the mother of all beings, we are like the son, thus Taoism encourages one to return to the 'mother'. -
IMHO and my own understanding...
To return to this "mother", how? Being a virtuous person who avoids unvirtuous thinking, speaking, and action, is the basis. However, returning to the Tao is not merely practising good deeds, but also removing all dualisms, grasping, craving of things, concepts of things including the Tao.
Once these (dualisms, grasping, craving, etc) are in place, the mind grasps and creates all sorts of dualism and "strays away" from the Tao. The Yin/Yang aspect of the Tao is not the Tao. We mistake the Yin itself, or Yang itself, as the Tao on its whole. The Yin, or the Yang, cannot exist alone. Seperating them is a big mistake. Thus we need to eliminate all these confusion.
However the "one" in Tao does not mean eliminating all differences. The differences are present in the One in a mysterious way. That's why the Yin and Yang aspect is there. They are not separated anymore, and yet they are there.
Taoism teaches non-duality. It means that light and shade, long and short, black and white, can only be experienced in relation to each other; light is not independent of shade, nor black of white. There are no opposites, only relationships.
What is the Tao? Sorry, I don't know how to describe it. We can try all means of using different words to describe it, but its still not the absolute. The Tao is such, the more one describes, the more likely one is going to grasp on the concept and this is what one will need to avoid in order to be one with Tao.The tao that can be told
is not the eternal Tao
The name that can be named
is not the eternal Name.
The unnamable is the eternally real.
Naming is the origin
of all particular things.
Free from desire, you realize the mystery.
Caught in desire, you see only the manifestations.
Yet mystery and manifestations
arise from the same source.
This source is called darkness.
Darkness within darkness.
The gateway to all understanding.
- 1st chapter of Tao Te Ching -
i agree with you. much of ur explaination can be found in Lao Tze qingjing jing.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:IMHO and my own understanding...
To return to this "mother", how? Being a virtuous person who avoids unvirtuous thinking, speaking, and action, is the basis. However, returning to the Tao is not merely practising good deeds, but also removing all dualisms, grasping, craving of things, concepts of things including the Tao.
Once these (dualisms, grasping, craving, etc) are in place, the mind grasps and creates all sorts of dualism and "strays away" from the Tao. The Yin/Yang aspect of the Tao is not the Tao. We mistake the Yin itself, or Yang itself, as the Tao on its whole. The Yin, or the Yang, cannot exist alone. Seperating them is a big mistake. Thus we need to eliminate all these confusion.
However the "one" in Tao does not mean eliminating all differences. The differences are present in the One in a mysterious way. That's why the Yin and Yang aspect is there. They are not separated anymore, and yet they are there.
Taoism teaches non-duality. It means that light and shade, long and short, black and white, can only be experienced in relation to each other; light is not independent of shade, nor black of white. There are no opposites, only relationships.
What is the Tao? Sorry, I don't know how to describe it. We can try all means of using different words to describe it, but its still not the absolute. The Tao is such, the more one describes, the more likely one is going to grasp on the concept and this is what one will need to avoid in order to be one with Tao.
but to achieve a thousand miles, the foundation, which is the first step is impt. thus, establishing virtue thru self practice, deeds is impt.
I mentioned about controlling our desire too, which include craving, grasping and also self- centerness.
it is impt to suppress these to return to a state of tranquility.
as for yin and yang, i think it is a stage to be done only we are virtue. -
Yes indeed. Foundation is very important.
Speaking of "Being One With Dao", there's something I would like to point out - We are already One With Dao ultimately (even if you do not know about the Tao), the matter is are we deluded, ignorant, confused in the mind?
Since we are already One With Tao, "How" is out of question for that who is realised. As my friend Thusness has said,But as much as I would not like to say, there is no what, where, when, why and how. Sounds senseless but it is true. These are what Naturalness is not.
But i'm still not realised, and am practising to be "one with tao" myself. I am still practising. I'm not really taoist though, and I think labels do not matter much... let us practise earnestly. -
haha... u must have read the qingjing jing of lao zi too. it is mentioned inside too.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Yes indeed. Foundation is very important.
Speaking of "Being One With Dao", there's something I would like to point out - We are already One With Dao ultimately (even if you do not know about the Tao), the matter is are we deluded, ignorant, confused in the mind?
Since we are already One With Tao, "How" is out of question for that who is realised. As my friend Thusness has said,
But i'm still not realised, and am practising to be "one with tao" myself. I am still practising. I'm not really taoist though, and I think labels do not matter much... let us practise earnestly.
the man of tao, although achieved the tao, but in actual fact, achieved nothing.
but for the sake of spread the way of tao, we have no choice but to name it 'be with tao, achieving tao'. but we are all part of tao, within tao.
however, although we are all within tao, our mind may not be with tao, leding astray due to external influences.
abit confussing and contradicting reading it, guess it take times to understand. -
Yes, I agree with you. No attainments.
Oh and I read it only when you mentioned it. It's a nice work.
But my understandings didn't come from Taoism... I speak by my own understandings of non-dualism. I guess there are many similarities between Buddhism and Taoism in teachings. -
Tao..tao Tao....Wu Tao.... Yuo Tao.... Bu zhi Tao....
Tao is
do not follow your mind, nor your heart!!! then follow???
Tao..Tao.....Tao...why not 'zhou Tao'..
Middle path
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yes. Zhong yong zhi dao, the way of the middle path by Confucius and also Taoism too..Originally posted by water_rat:Tao..tao Tao....Wu Tao.... Yuo Tao.... Bu zhi Tao....
Tao is
do not follow your mind, nor your heart!!! then follow???
Tao..Tao.....Tao...why not 'zhou Tao'..
Middle path