Not sure if i've to bring this up
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There are alot of charity shows going on every year asking for donations .
Do the people who donates really donates from the heart or for the sake of prize ?
The show even got some prizes that worth up to abt $500 if you make a certain number of calls and it's definately worth the callers because they could be calling only $50 - $100 but they can get vouchers of 10 or 5 times the calls they made .
Even Condos were given out and many attractive prizes to be won like cars etc....Let's say if there are no prizes given out AT ALL , do you people think the singaporeans will donate ?
For me , I never donate or make any calls because of prizes . I just think that's simply pathetic . But I do make regular donations to SPCA every month through internet transfer though I don't get any prizes at all but I do feel very happy just being able to help the poor puppies and animals
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yes charity show or even those selling flags or other type of donations these days re beri lame indeed.
i dun understand why ask pples donate must min donate how much one...
i tot its donate as u feel u can, regardless of amount...
hiaz......
no money ask frm gov mah, wat the gov for ... koaz -
Couldn't have say it better myself . Totally agreed with you and I would like to add one more thing why don't our government donate $2 to every $1 being donated ? Wouldn't that be better ?Originally posted by pangkee:yes charity show or even those selling flags or other type of donations these days re beri lame indeed.
i dun understand why ask pples donate must min donate how much one...
i tot its donate as u feel u can, regardless of amount...
hiaz......
no money ask frm gov mah, wat the gov for ... koaz
We all see when the host ask for the LIVE AUDIENCE to donate , we can always see alot of people SMS when the camera are focussing at them especially the MPs . Do you think they are really making a donation SMS or perharps sms by pressing the phone just for a show ? well no comments on this it's up to them
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might as well give the prize or prize money to charity.
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it is because the sponsors want the publicity.Originally posted by Gordonator:might as well give the prize or prize money to charity.
these charity shows are so commercial... -
Sponsorship and Charity are 2 different thing.
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but who cares as long as they achieve the desired results
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there's way too many charity shows nowadays. it's a overkill.
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1) If the prize is $500 worth but they can get 1000 ppl to donate and they get 50,000. more over the $500 is sponser by company.
2) those vouchers with discount coupon given to all whome made at least 1 donation of $5, they actually done a calulation of how many will actually use the vochers. Don't forget its only a discount of 15% - 20% after a purchase of maybe say above $50 dollars.
3) those company that participate in the discount coupon actually take this advantage to advertise their company.
4) Condo is sponser by other company, condo actually attract how much donation, I believe they get back alot more money then the condo worth.
No choice lah, if not for this above coupons, condo and just base on our heart to donate , how much can they collect? Just see how much those sell flag collection on saturday how to get as much as the charity show?
1 word, Human Nature. -
make money out of money and sponsors get the publicity. kill 2 birds with one stone
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To think i've been donating to NKF $8 every month n din even get anything...not to say a car or condo...even a sweet also dun have...all i receieved from them is cards...Thank-You cards with contents inside to ask you make more donations.....
To the extend when one of my bank got abt $1.50...(The bank which they constantly retrieve my $$$ to the NKF), they (NKF) called me to inform me that my bank got no $$$$ and also keep sending mails to my hse to remind...TMD....i no $$$ how to donate...kns...how come i dun see any of them donate to me when my bank got no $$$$...NKF only know how to ask for $$$$...TMD....
Dun even know if all my donations got go to the patients or not...or the employees's bonus/salary... -
I was told NKF sponsored kidney dialysis is more expensive than private ones. I don't know what is NKF doing but for sure I would not be interested in donating to a blood sucking company. I only support Renci.
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it is not a good sign if people start donating money to you. i wouldn't want to see myself in that position.Originally posted by dcx:To think i've been donating to NKF $8 every month n din even get anything...not to say a car or condo...even a sweet also dun have...all i receieved from them is cards...Thank-You cards with contents inside to ask you make more donations.....
To the extend when one of my bank got abt $1.50...(The bank which they constantly retrieve my $$$ to the NKF), they (NKF) called me to inform me that my bank got no $$$$ and also keep sending mails to my hse to remind...TMD....i no $$$ how to donate...kns...how come i dun see any of them donate to me when my bank got no $$$$...NKF only know how to ask for $$$$...TMD....
Dun even know if all my donations got go to the patients or not...or the employees's bonus/salary...
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NKF will give you a discount when you get Kidney failure, you sure get back more than what you donateOriginally posted by dcx:To think i've been donating to NKF $8 every month n din even get anything...not to say a car or condo...even a sweet also dun have...all i receieved from them is cards...Thank-You cards with contents inside to ask you make more donations.....
To the extend when one of my bank got abt $1.50...(The bank which they constantly retrieve my $$$ to the NKF), they (NKF) called me to inform me that my bank got no $$$$ and also keep sending mails to my hse to remind...TMD....i no $$$ how to donate...kns...how come i dun see any of them donate to me when my bank got no $$$$...NKF only know how to ask for $$$$...TMD....
Dun even know if all my donations got go to the patients or not...or the employees's bonus/salary...
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Thanks ah...........Originally posted by F.O.S:NKF will give you a discount when you get Kidney failure, you sure get back more than what you donate -
Dunno you guys got notice anot.. The phones that those stars are holding when they made mass donation calls looks almost the same.. Skali are props.. Summore there are prizes giving out if u made donations and win in lucky draw leh.. Thought ppl related to the companies, organisations etc etc are not suppose to participate in lucky draws to be fair? Den how come they can made donation calls leh?
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related to the companies does not stop them from donating... just that they would not win the prize if there is...Originally posted by aiyo!:Dunno you guys got notice anot.. The phones that those stars are holding when they made mass donation calls looks almost the same.. Skali are props.. Summore there are prizes giving out if u made donations and win in lucky draw leh.. Thought ppl related to the companies, organisations etc etc are not suppose to participate in lucky draws to be fair? Den how come they can made donation calls leh? -
i did donated but not fer the prizes lah..cuz i know i won't have the luck to win all those prizesOriginally posted by Gloria Estefan:There are alot of charity shows going on every year asking for donations .
Do the people who donates really donates from the heart or for the sake of prize ?
The show even got some prizes that worth up to abt $500 if you make a certain number of calls and it's definately worth the callers because they could be calling only $50 - $100 but they can get vouchers of 10 or 5 times the calls they made .
Even Condos were given out and many attractive prizes to be won like cars etc....Let's say if there are no prizes given out AT ALL , do you people think the singaporeans will donate ?
For me , I never donate or make any calls because of prizes . I just think that's simply pathetic . But I do make regular donations to SPCA every month through internet transfer though I don't get any prizes at all but I do feel very happy just being able to help the poor puppies and animals
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someone calculated the minimum cost of setting up line cost plus the admin charge... therefore there is always a min donation amount to balance out the operational cost....Originally posted by pangkee:i dun understand why ask pples donate must min donate how much one...
i tot its donate as u feel u can, regardless of amount...
You still have the free will to donate or not, whenever and whatever amount anytime.... not just during the NKF donation drive... -
I stop donating to NKF after they (mediakop) show hanging TVs for each patient, big aquarium for each patient..and also big ang pow for the chairman..it's not a non-profit organisation anymore..waste time/money to donate or watch..
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They so "eng" go filter out those related to the companies meh.. Plus if you've seen past yr show, they call the winner on the spot one.. If they can filter out those related ppl, they need ppl to do it, and they need to pay ppl for doing that one leh..Originally posted by Twincat:related to the companies does not stop them from donating... just that they would not win the prize if there is...
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NKF.. nothing wrong with wat they are doing.. Think tat's gd for those who really need help..
But something bothering me..... on NKF...
Can they come off clean with more transparency on :-
1) how much their CEOs etc are paid..
rumours on flying 1st class etc are quite disturbing...
2) how they account for their spending...
3) how they accumlated and used their reserves ??
Start with the top guns.. declare their assets etc..
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there is something call computer database, matching, filtering and lookup system connected to the public telephone exchange station...last year the number they read from caller id on the spot meh?...so many ppl call at the same time handled by ppl meh...no also mah... handled by computer with pre-recorded message...number recorded then processed then send to the show....Originally posted by aiyo!:They so "eng" go filter out those related to the companies meh.. Plus if you've seen past yr show, they call the winner on the spot one.. If they can filter out those related ppl, they need ppl to do it, and they need to pay ppl for doing that one leh..
ah bor they hand tally the individual calls to know how many times a person called to give them the discounts ? if like that they need to out source to other country to process liao loh... -
if you say Singaporeans won't donate if there's no prize, you are PERFECTLY WRONG ! During the tsunami collection, is there any prizes? NO ! And yet, Singaporeans made donations faster than any donation drive. Can you justify that too ?
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Hmm.. and I tot I'm e only who feels happy donating to SPCA more than to human ones..kezkez...nice to hear that ur also one of them.. cox I also feel that charity shows asking for doughs to help humans that have so many humans to help them out in crisis.. but do those poor animals have humans to help out? Very little...what is most important is that one feels happy bout donating freely and not asking for anything in return..tats e real spririt of donationOriginally posted by Gloria Estefan:There are alot of charity shows going on every year asking for donations .
Do the people who donates really donates from the heart or for the sake of prize ?
The show even got some prizes that worth up to abt $500 if you make a certain number of calls and it's definately worth the callers because they could be calling only $50 - $100 but they can get vouchers of 10 or 5 times the calls they made .
Even Condos were given out and many attractive prizes to be won like cars etc....Let's say if there are no prizes given out AT ALL , do you people think the singaporeans will donate ?
For me , I never donate or make any calls because of prizes . I just think that's simply pathetic . But I do make regular donations to SPCA every month through internet transfer though I don't get any prizes at all but I do feel very happy just being able to help the poor puppies and animals