Originally posted by The Hobbit:
so no SEX no LOVE?
There can be love.
If the women didn't get any love before sex, giving sex probably won't get them any love after it either.
If the women did get love before sex, what is the point of giving sex when they already have the love?
The men may beg "If you love me, you'll give it to me." The men may threaten "If you don't give it to me, I won't love you anymore." Men who say such things probably don't really love the women anyway, so all the more the women shouldn't give it to them.
So the big question is: When could the women give the sex?
Since there is no litmus test for real love, the only logical answer one could think of is:
Only when the women want the sex as well. If they don't want it, they shouldn't give it away uncaringly just for the sake of giving. And once they have given the sex especially before marriage, they should be prepared to accept the possibility that the men would leave once sex has been obtained.
If a woman respects her body enough not to offer it away carelessly, thus would a man accord her with that same amount of respect.