Drunk Sex Consent
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you record video/voice
again you kena for shooting XXX
again you are the looser
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i think that the prostitutes are license here.. might as well go get their service if u itch.. rather than kena lock-up for unconsent sex.
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man....guys are really losers....
pay to f++k pros
pay for f++k pros (VD)
pay for f++k pros (VD, got baby, sue you)
pay to f++k gf (walua..under age kana bluff. Go to jail)
pay to f++k mature gf (walua...she did not say yes..drunk)
pay after f++k mature gf (walua...no protect, kana baby)
pay for condoms...(walua...no use still kana baby. not 100%)
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it was in xinmin, wuan bao n newpaper many moons back.... article on openess of local ladies towards casual sexOriginally posted by dragg:what kind of papers you read?
The SexTimes? -
Moral of the story is.. PAY TO FUK. no strings attached.wham bang n go. In sg a few times met those also..drunk girls really damn chiong when they wanna fuk you. Only way not to fall into thier trap.. is be like a stone...LIKE A STONE>...Originally posted by wendy81:Well.... can say that... BGR had really condemned most men and women these days... both genders go ard looking for sex partners instead of a proper relationship unknowingly or some unwillingly [to numb themselves]. Not just gals are bad to look for such flings but men are also the same.. esp the married ones.. who want plain fun coz their wives are not fulfilling enuff.. and married women go out to haf fun coz they cannot find wat they want frm their husband...Its not saying the husband or wife is not good but juz that they haf the qualities to becoming husband or wife but they lack of something their spouse is looking for... so they go out to look for flings.
after they go..beh tahan..go look for prostie of GRO at KARAOKE.. -
ladies nowadays are indeed too open-minded for their own good.Originally posted by sharked:it was in xinmin, wuan bao n newpaper many moons back.... article on openess of local ladies towards casual sex -
Originally posted by BadzMaro:Moral of the story is.. PAY TO FUK. no strings attached.wham bang n go. In sg a few times met those also..drunk girls really damn chiong when they wanna fuk you. Only way not to fall into thier trap.. is be like a stone...LIKE A STONE>... after they go..beh tahan..go look for prostie of GRO at KARAOKE..
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dat's true.Originally posted by BadzMaro:Moral of the story is.. PAY TO FUK. no strings attached.wham bang n go. In sg a few times met those also..drunk girls really damn chiong when they wanna fuk you. Only way not to fall into thier trap.. is be like a stone...LIKE A STONE>... after they go..beh tahan..go look for prostie of GRO at KARAOKE.. 
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woot~~ someone who agrees with me~!Originally posted by dragg:ladies nowadays are indeed too open-minded for their own good.
actually i believe there are more who thinks like this also... just wanna hear someone else say it haha
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Well... the law always protect the females. That's for sure.
WomenÂ’s Charter (Cap 353) s 140(1)(i)
So guys... better peel your eyelids before any sex.. haha -
Bang and then run far far. Burn the condoms.
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Tsk Tsk Tsk..... notti shandower.... *prepares rotan*Originally posted by shandower:Bang and then run far far. Burn the condoms. -
those who get to f them seriously wont mind.Originally posted by sharked:woot~~ someone who agrees with me~!
actually i believe there are more who thinks like this also... just wanna hear someone else say it haha -
don't forget the semen u drop somewhere along the way..Originally posted by shandower:Bang and then run far far. Burn the condoms. -
be a man, and do the right thing. Do not take advantage of the sitaution.
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That's the correct statement misty. Often, there is a chinese proverbs which states "seh4 zi4 tou2 shang1 yi4 ba3 dao1" See below for example (True Case):Originally posted by mistyblue:be a man, and do the right thing. Do not take advantage of the sitaution.
2.The accused and the complainant had known one another for less than three weeks, having met on x December xxxx at the Sole Luna pub at Holland Village. The complainant who is known as ABC, was a part-time waitress there. The accused was 23 years old and was a Second Sergeant with the Singapore Armed Forces. He was smitten by her and was courting her assiduously although she was not interested in him. They had one uneventful date on xx December.
3. On xx December the accused invited the complainant to a farewell party at the Sole Luna for his friend Frankie. She accepted his invitation and arrived there at about 10.10 pm. The accused and some of his friends were there, but Frankie was at another pub, the Sultan of Swing, at Central Mall. The accused and his friends went to join F at the Sultan of Swing at about 11 pm while the complainant remained at the Sole Luna. She was still there when the accused returned from the Sultan of Swing at about midnight.
4. She had about six bourbon cokes and vodka limes and they had their effect on her. She was resting her head on the bar counter, crying. At around 2 am, the Sole LunaÂ’s closing time, the complainantÂ’s friends and colleagues were leaving the pub. The complainant was assisted by the accused and his friends on her way out of the pub. They got her into a car, but she got out, vomited and declared that she did not want to be taken home. The accusedÂ’s friends carried her into another car. They went through her hand bag and found that she stayed at ABCxxx. They also telephoned her home and informed her brother that they were sending her home. However as the complainant maintained that she did not want to go home, they took her to the accusedÂ’s home at Yxxg xn Road on his suggestion.
5. The complainant was asleep on the way there. When they reached the block where the accused stayed, she was carried to the void deck where she rested for a while as she wanted to vomit. After that she was carried to the lift, and when they reached the floor the accused resided, they stopped once more because the complainant wanted to vomit again.
The events in the apartment....
The Judge :
25. I did not accept the explanation. The accused was 23 years old. He had obtained his N level certificate as well as a Certificate on Office Skills from the Institute of Technical Education and was serving as a Second Sergeant in the Singapore Armed Forces. Having observed him, and taking into account his background, I found that it was not credible that he thought that consensual sex is sex with oral consent, and that without it, it is rape however willing the partner may be. In any event, he went beyond verbal consent in the statement, and confirmed that there was also no consent by conduct.
27. When I considered the complainantÂ’s evidence, it was clear that she had had too much to drink. She was unhappy and was crying, and did not want to be sent home because she did not want her parents to know she was drunk. She was vomiting intermittently and feeling nauseated, and even after arriving at the accusedÂ’s apartment she had to get up from the bed to go to the toilet to vomit again returning to the bed to sleep. When her sleep was interrupted by her pager, she went back to sleep after accessing her voice mail.
28. The complainant could not be in an amorous state in that condition. Her evidence that she had not consented to have sex with the accused was confirmed by the accused himself. Her calls to her friends recounting the events corroborated her evidence.
Sentence
35. In the commission of the offences, there was no violence, threat of violence, abduction or wrongful confinement. There was also no preconceived plot by the accused. He could not have known that the complainant would be drunk, or that she would not want to be sent back to her own home. The offences were committed because of his impulse to have sex with the complainant when the opportunity presented itself. The accused has no antecedents and there is no real likelihood that he would repeat the offence. On the other side of the scale, he denied the charges and went through a trial of seven days. Keeping in mind the principles set down in Chia Kim Heng Frederick v PP [1992] 1 SLR 361, I sentenced the accused to eight yearsÂ’ imprisonment and six strokes of the cane on the first charge and eight years imprisonment on the second charge, with the custodial sentences to run concurrently in view of the proximity in time and other circumstances of the two offences.
Bottom Line: Don't let your sex temptations ruin your life. Live Upright! -
Because the girl couldn't remember if she had given consent. You want to destroy a person's life on the basis of a 'maybe i did not consent'?Originally posted by The man who was death:Got a case recently in britain, the judge ruled the girl has given consent even though she was drunk, the guy who had sex with her got away scot free.
The prosecution service screwed up. The case should never have been brought to trial in the first place. All the CPS did is to screw the guy over w/o having proven his guilt. -
Originally posted by niceguy_123:
Perfectly correct decision. The accused even admitted that there was no consent. In such cases, the evidence clearly points to rape.
That's the correct statement misty. Often, there is a chinese proverbs which states "seh4 zi4 tou2 shang1 yi4 ba3 dao1" See below for example (True Case):
2.The accused and the complainant had known one another for less than three weeks, having met on x December xxxx at the Sole Luna pub at Holland Village. The complainant who is known as ABC, was a part-time waitress there. The accused was 23 years old and was a Second Sergeant with the Singapore Armed Forces. He was smitten by her and was courting her assiduously although she was not interested in him. They had one uneventful date on xx December.
3. On xx December the accused invited the complainant to a farewell party at the Sole Luna for his friend Frankie. She accepted his invitation and arrived there at about 10.10 pm. The accused and some of his friends were there, but Frankie was at another pub, the Sultan of Swing, at Central Mall. The accused and his friends went to join F at the Sultan of Swing at about 11 pm while the complainant remained at the Sole Luna. She was still there when the accused returned from the Sultan of Swing at about midnight.
4. She had about six bourbon cokes and vodka limes and they had their effect on her. She was resting her head on the bar counter, crying. At around 2 am, the Sole LunaÂ’s closing time, the complainantÂ’s friends and colleagues were leaving the pub. The complainant was assisted by the accused and his friends on her way out of the pub. They got her into a car, but she got out, vomited and declared that she did not want to be taken home. The accusedÂ’s friends carried her into another car. They went through her hand bag and found that she stayed at ABCxxx. They also telephoned her home and informed her brother that they were sending her home. However as the complainant maintained that she did not want to go home, they took her to the accusedÂ’s home at Yxxg xn Road on his suggestion.
5. The complainant was asleep on the way there. When they reached the block where the accused stayed, she was carried to the void deck where she rested for a while as she wanted to vomit. After that she was carried to the lift, and when they reached the floor the accused resided, they stopped once more because the complainant wanted to vomit again.
The events in the apartment....
The Judge :
25. I did not accept the explanation. The accused was 23 years old. He had obtained his N level certificate as well as a Certificate on Office Skills from the Institute of Technical Education and was serving as a Second Sergeant in the Singapore Armed Forces. Having observed him, and taking into account his background, I found that it was not credible that he thought that consensual sex is sex with oral consent, and that without it, it is rape however willing the partner may be. In any event, he went beyond verbal consent in the statement, and confirmed that there was also no consent by conduct.
27. When I considered the complainantÂ’s evidence, it was clear that she had had too much to drink. She was unhappy and was crying, and did not want to be sent home because she did not want her parents to know she was drunk. She was vomiting intermittently and feeling nauseated, and even after arriving at the accusedÂ’s apartment she had to get up from the bed to go to the toilet to vomit again returning to the bed to sleep. When her sleep was interrupted by her pager, she went back to sleep after accessing her voice mail.
28. The complainant could not be in an amorous state in that condition. Her evidence that she had not consented to have sex with the accused was confirmed by the accused himself. Her calls to her friends recounting the events corroborated her evidence.
Sentence
35. In the commission of the offences, there was no violence, threat of violence, abduction or wrongful confinement. There was also no preconceived plot by the accused. He could not have known that the complainant would be drunk, or that she would not want to be sent back to her own home. The offences were committed because of his impulse to have sex with the complainant when the opportunity presented itself. The accused has no antecedents and there is no real likelihood that he would repeat the offence. On the other side of the scale, he denied the charges and went through a trial of seven days. Keeping in mind the principles set down in Chia Kim Heng Frederick v PP [1992] 1 SLR 361, I sentenced the accused to [b]eight yearsÂ’ imprisonment and six strokes of the cane on the first charge and eight years imprisonment on the second charge, with the custodial sentences to run concurrently in view of the proximity in time and other circumstances of the two offences.
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Well. .. during the trial. His admission is the girl is consensus sex given her actions during the act.
Anyway, never take any advantages when a gal is drunk. -
Well maybe you can touch a little, but don't go overboard.Originally posted by niceguy_123:Well. .. during the trial. His admission is the girl is consensus sex given her actions during the act.
Anyway, never take any advantages when a gal is drunk. -
but then they will want proof of the money paid, best is take a tape recorder, and only tape the appropriate parts =DOriginally posted by Icemoon:Pay beforehand. Then at least you can argue she demands money (and hence she is sober). -
shoud have said he was acquitted. Not get away scot free, it's misleading.Originally posted by The man who was death:Got a case recently in britain, the judge ruled the girl has given consent even though she was drunk, the guy who had sex with her got away scot free. -
depends on he got cum or notOriginally posted by X-men:Law seems to be protecting the gals more than guys.
If a guys is drunk and end up having sex with a gal, can he charge her for misleading him into unwilling sex -
I don't think Taping down voice is good enough as evidence. Best is still Video footage. Digital-Photos & Voice recording are not accept in court I heard. Because Voice & digital photo can be digitally created.
Anyway, who would ask "Can I have Sex with you?" before doing?? It's a "Feeling" things lor. Or who would say: "Can you sent me a concent form for having sex with you so there is no further arguments later?" Or "Can I video tape down our Process?"
What I think for cases like this, both man & women should have to be placed on equal doubt that there is no "Rape" in the first case. Because it's words againts words that will destory a life path (8 years is a long time), both party should not have gone into that drunken situations that something wrong could happened, how many can remember words spoken after drunk & also to prevent further abuse of court systems?
If consent of sex need to have before sex, should some Official give a standard guidline to advise public? Like what questions to ask? What form to fill in before sex? What evidence to have to protect ourself? hahahaha
Best advice if happen girl is drunken, sent her back home. If she don't want to go home, sent her to her girlfriend's home. If still don't want, dump her on the street. At least I am not the one getting sued. -
guys will never win so dont risk it haha