Your life isn't real. Your world is an illusion.

• Ashiene

  31 Dec 05, 20:40

  Originally posted by Kenashi:

  u watched too much matrix liao
  matrix overdosed, someone call 911

  are you kidding me? this is NO JOKE. im SERIOUS.
  if you dont believe me, u can ask those people who almost died, they actually SAW a small part of the holo in the tunnel at the far end.
• Ashiene

  31 Dec 05, 20:41

  also, many religions are based on this theory. btw, for your information, the matrix was BASED on this theory...
• Kenashi

  31 Dec 05, 20:43

  Originally posted by Ashiene:

  are you kidding me? this is NO JOKE. im SERIOUS.
  if you dont believe me, u can ask those people who almost died, they actually SAW a small part of the holo in the tunnel at the far end.

  when there is a shortage of oxygen to the brain, u see all sort of things
  
• Ashiene

  31 Dec 05, 22:41

  Originally posted by Kenashi:

  when there is a shortage of oxygen to the brain, u see all sort of things
  

  nvm when u visit the holo then you'll understand..
• ne0matrix

  1 Jan 06, 00:02

  Originally posted by Ashiene:

  also, many religions are based on this theory. btw, for your information, the matrix was BASED on this theory...

  I'm the one.
• longchen

  1 Jan 06, 09:46

  Thanks Ashiene for the very interesting articles.
  
  I also too feels that our perception of the universe is a hologram... and that the hologram itself is thoughts.
  
  As individual selfs, we only perceive our own thoughts... or rather we are these thoughts.
  
  My opinion is that all of us are individual containments within a vast/infinite 'body' of All that is. We are all one... and are different expressions (reciever) of the ONE.
  
  When thinking, we perceive ourselves as separate beings. When the thinking mind is stilled (no thoughts/Now), we realised what emanated the thoughts... It appears to me as a 'bright' energetic vastness. This infinite vastness is us... we all meet here.
  
  Suffering appears to me to be the thoughts... that creates a 'personalised sense of self'. It is the personalised sense of self that gave 'meaning' to the invisible vastness. In the vastness, there appears to me ... 'no meaning'.
  
  I must say... I have not entered into these experiences long enough to give more concrete answers....
  
  so these are just my understanding at current stage. [/b]
• Ashiene

  1 Jan 06, 13:10

  Very interesting statement, longchen.
  
  Luck:
  What is luck? It is not chance, but it is the manifestation of one's desires. When one wishes for something to happen in the collective, his mind in the holo will form these new realities to replace the current existing ones in the collective.
  
  Yes, like neo says: 'I am the One.'
  We're all part of the ONE, a vast space that is dominated by many 'minds' or 'jewels' like those in the Net of Indra, but are all connected to each other.
• An0nym0us

  2 Jan 06, 20:29

  Originally posted by Ashiene:

  are you kidding me? this is NO JOKE. im SERIOUS.
  if you dont believe me, u can ask those people who almost died, they actually SAW a small part of the holo in the tunnel at the far end.

  Do I get to see the train man too? and will the merovigian get me?
  
  Jokes aside, I must say thats a very interesting article you have there though I believe that its still pseudoscience as with most theories concerning reality.
  
  

  Luck:
  What is luck? It is not chance, but it is the manifestation of one's desires. When one wishes for something to happen in the collective, his mind in the holo will form these new realities to replace the current existing ones in the collective.

  But if thats the case, then why doesn't things happen no matter how hard some people wish for it to?
  I'd say if this theory is true then it'd mean that thinking in the collective would be different from thinking in the holo. What I mean is that although the collective is simply a projection of the holo, then some if not all thoughts that exist in the collective would be illusory too.
• Pop Out

  2 Jan 06, 22:27

  what a wonderful way to increase post count
• Ashiene

  3 Jan 06, 08:58

  But if thats the case, then why doesn't things happen no matter how hard some people wish for it to?
  I'd say if this theory is true then it'd mean that thinking in the collective would be different from thinking in the holo. What I mean is that although the collective is simply a projection of the holo, then some if not all thoughts that exist in the collective would be illusory too.

  You have to understand that:
  Everything in the collective is an imagined reality.
  Your physical self does not exist.
  Your mind is the ONLY direct link between the collective and the holo.
  
  

  why doesn't things happen no matter how hard some people wish for it to?

  It is all a matter of effort. If your mind in the holo does not put in enough effort to effect changes to your collective reality, then changes would not occur. There are many ways to increase your constructive strength to help you build better realities. And I can teach you how. There are methods, one of them meditation, which requires you to clear your mind of all things and imagine you are floating in a vast emptiness and imagining your physical self is not there.
  
  Then theres the other more effective method, where you take an object (small one preferably), place it in your main hand and imagine that object is a part of you. Imagine that every atom in the object is connected to every atom in your hand. Then, using your mind, will it to happen. Will the object to move, to bend, to twist, to rotate...In the holo, ALL things are connected, and if you can imagine that everything in the collective is connected too, then you'll be able to do things that only those in the holo can do, like change their own realities. Now the object in your hand will respond if you use enough mindpower, because in the holo, anything you think of is reality.
• longchen

  4 Jan 06, 07:35

  I believe what Ashiene say is true.
  
  I have a spiritual teacher. She has evolved beyond the 'sense of individual self'. She can know anything she needs to know. She can read me or anybody in any case. That, i think, is because beyond the 'walls of thoughts' of an individual self, is the vast space where all of us are connected.
• Ashiene

  4 Jan 06, 08:33

  Originally posted by longchen:

  I believe what Ashiene say is true.
  
  I have a spiritual teacher. She has evolved beyond the 'sense of individual self'. She can know anything she needs to know. She can read me or anybody in any case. That, i think, is because beyond the 'walls of thoughts' of an individual self, is the vast space where all of us are connected.

  Have you ever felt that 'strange, ghostly presence' behind you sometimes? Like you know someone is watching you but you see nothing? That, is the power of the holo. Everytime you do not look in a particular direction, things happen behind your back. Realities are constantly being changed and the collective evolves to adapt to humanity's needs. Minds are thinking of ways to improve their lives by constructing better realities in the collective. This raw energy that emantes from the holo causes most people to sense that they're being watched.
  
  Of course, there is another explanation. because we're animals, we're trained to hunt and survive in the wild. Thus we have something called a survival instinct. everytime we do not see something, we feel that something or someone is watching us. this helps us survive in an hostile environment. but although we've evolved beyond this basic need, we still keep with us this instinct, some people call it a sixth sense.
  
  Though I prefer the former explanation, the latter holds some truth too...
• Ashiene

  4 Jan 06, 08:42

  Originally posted by targa3:

  i have been thinking about this alot and seems to me that emotions, senses, feelings are all binding us to this percepted reality, preventing us from realising the higher and abstract truth.
  
  on a sidenote, i haven't been thinking for a long time.

  Exactly. Compare these 3 species of animals and you would realise what they and what WE see is VERY different. That is because what we perceive is NOT what is actually real.
  
  1) Humans
  2) Bees
  3) Ants
  
  Bees see only colors, and they are unable to see details. That is because they're not built to do so. Their job is to pollinate and so they need color vision only to identify which flowers to go to and get their honey.
  
  Ants do not see, or they have extremely poor vision. But their feelers have the ability to sense the air and objects around them. Therefore, what an ant perceives is real is NOT what we humans see is REAL.
  
  Humans may put a metal pen in front of an ant, allowing the ant to touch the object with its antennaes. But the ant will never know it is a pen. It will perceive of the object as a twig. This proves our saying: 'What we perceive is not what is real'.
• An Eternal Now

  4 Jan 06, 20:22

  Originally posted by longchen:
  Thanks Ashiene for the very interesting articles.
  
  I also too feels that our perception of the universe is a hologram... and that the hologram itself is thoughts.
  
  As individual selfs, we only perceive our own thoughts... or rather we are these thoughts.
  
  My opinion is that all of us are individual containments within a vast/infinite 'body' of All that is. We are all one... and are different expressions (reciever) of the ONE.
  
  When thinking, we perceive ourselves as separate beings. When the thinking mind is stilled (no thoughts/Now), we realised what emanated the thoughts... It appears to me as a 'bright' energetic vastness. This infinite vastness is us... we all meet here.
  
  Suffering appears to me to be the thoughts... that creates a 'personalised sense of self'. It is the personalised sense of self that gave 'meaning' to the invisible vastness. In the vastness, there appears to me ... 'no meaning'.
  
  I must say... I have not entered into these experiences long enough to give more concrete answers....
  
  so these are just my understanding at current stage. [/b]

  Just to add:
  
  "It is like an image reflected in a mirror, it is seen but it is not real; the One Mind is seen as a duality by the ignorant when it is reflected in the mirror constructed by their memory. . . . The existence of the entire universe is due to memory that has been accumulated since the beginningless past but wrongly interpreted." - Lankavatara Sutra
  
• Ashiene

  5 Jan 06, 09:02

  "It is like an image reflected in a mirror, it is seen but it is not real; the One Mind is seen as a duality by the ignorant when it is reflected in the mirror constructed by their memory. . . . The existence of the entire universe is due to memory that has been accumulated since the beginningless past but wrongly interpreted."

  Very wise statement to prove our non-existance. I believe what we call 'realms' or 'dimensions' are in fact the many very different realities the minds in the holo create. Our reality, the collective, is one of them. Someone created this reality some time ago and many other minds came to populate it. Of course, there are some minds who decide not to join the others, and form their own realities.
• Ashiene

  18 Jan 06, 18:03

  when we were in the holo we thought of how we wanted to shape our realities in this universe. this series of thoughts is compared to the other thoughts created by minds in the holo and the final result determines what would and could happen in the collective, past, present, and future.
  
  by studying our deoxyribonucleic acid or DNA, we are actually trying to find out what are these thoughts that trigger our existance in this universe.
  
  each creature's DNA is a long sequence of letters that are each a thought that helped our minds shape our universe. each of these thoughts are then linked to each other to form our DNA strain.
• Ashiene

  20 Jan 06, 09:01

  born to share dont spam my topic with your pics la. if u want people to see then start a new thread and post everything there. u damn annoying me.
• jodei

  20 Jan 06, 22:45

  Born to share, that was friggin unnecesary. Btw, i think that ashiene's post has some logic to it. But i believe that the theory of "your life is what you will it" is flawed as even if you believe, your subconcious does not. Therefore you conciously believe, but a part of you still refuses to change. Only people who have not been exposed to the limits of this pseudoreality (babies, psychos) can truly belive that they are able to change their existence.
  
  Pseudoreality, i gotta remember that.
• Ashiene

  7 Feb 06, 08:42

  Originally posted by jodei:

  Born to share, that was friggin unnecesary. Btw, i think that ashiene's post has some logic to it. But i believe that the theory of "your life is what you will it" is flawed as even if you believe, your subconcious does not. Therefore you conciously believe, but a part of you still refuses to change. Only people who have not been exposed to the limits of this pseudoreality (babies, psychos) can truly belive that they are able to change their existence.
  
  Pseudoreality, i gotta remember that.

  We must understand that all animals on this planet are not one organism, but many living together symbiotically in the physical body. Each organism is made up of a Consciousness, Sub-Consciousness, and a Physical Body.
  
  This thread is also related to a later topic I started. You may wish to refer to it for more information.
  
  http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=176680&page=0