aarrggghhh.... my gf is in S'pore for that week! Need to accompany her as we seldom see one another due to work committment. Will join u guys another time, k... really really sori abt this...Originally posted by the Bear:hey.. i'm free on new year's eve.. kittycat, wisejoe and nightyoung, wanna go get tanked up somewhere and see in the new year?
celebrate nightyoung's "step in the right direction"
i wished to.. but i already made appt with her long time ago..Originally posted by stupidjoe:aarrggghhh.... my gf is in S'pore for that week! Need to accompany her as we seldom see one another due to work committment. Will join u guys another time, k... really really sori abt this...![]()
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Originally posted by icyprincess:goodness gracious...I can't believe I am also part of the people who contribute to this thread. We should all just boycott this thread. Then mebbe he will wake up.
i.c.y
i know we all wish him well.Originally posted by the Bear:it's like a bad car crash.. we can't seem to stop rubbernecking..
and.. heck! cat, joe and myself wish him well... even to the extent of trying to drag him out for drinks and stuff..
Yes.. i really appreciated all those who stand by me... who read my thread from beginning to ending.. some even know what's actually is happening...although i no good writer..Originally posted by the Bear:it's like a bad car crash.. we can't seem to stop rubbernecking..
and.. heck! cat, joe and myself wish him well... even to the extent of trying to drag him out for drinks and stuff..
then be a man and keep your word for once.Originally posted by nightyoung:Yes.. i really appreciated all those who stand by me... who read my thread from beginning to ending.. some even know what's actually is happening...although i no good writer..
Really thanked those who encouraged me or told me to stop..
i have really come to a dead end this time..
I will leave her on 31st Dec... i.e. send her back home on 1st Jan 2005
Really walk away ......
okie dun tink i m too harsh.Originally posted by icyprincess:then be a man and keep your word for once.
i.c.y
Bet he muz be listening to "How Do I Live (Without You)" rite now...Originally posted by icyprincess:okie dun tink i m too harsh.
listen to this song,"Xin Tai Ruan" by Richie Ren.
My song dedication to u
i.c.y
??? what door mat?Originally posted by sleepycat:bravo!!! but nightyoung hasn't come to the stage where he realises that gals, esp good good gals, dun dig doormats no matter how many times i tried to screw this into his mind.. ha![]()
the last time i met her female colleague.. while going back with her.. she said her female colleague of hers is very the 'quai' type.. of coz.. i can see that.. sweet and gentle.. but i laughed and shook my head..Originally posted by lkming:dearest NightYoung, i just spent hours reading through all the posts! incredible feat to do seeing how a simple thing become so complicated. i won't be sharing my experience but it threads along with yours. but i think i have the best solution for you. oh btw, you know yourself that the 31Dec deadline won't even work...
ok, how do we start? let me get the facts straight first. you admire/like/love this good good girl for very long time (years). been rejected once or twice, but with some soft confession from your part not helping matters. can't forget her and like to be with her. finally, wishes that she be your gf and in future, your wife. the only problem, she has a bf and you respect that! good enough so far?
let me tell you first the problem with 3rd party view. WE don't really know the gal that well to give your suggestions or solutions. i'm sure plenty will agree with me here... hence, what my suggestions/solutions for you is more of what you can do and really need to do!
here is what you need to do...
1. tell her your feelings, yup, everything! from day 1 til now.
2. tell her your sufferings, yup, all the pain and tears.
3. tell her what you hope/wish for... yup, the gf and wife thing.
4. give her time to decide...
5. wait for answer. your misery starts here, the waiting and all....
ok, it doesn't end there...
IF she decided to leave the current bf for the better YOU. bless you my friend!
IF she said that she loves the current bf and wishes you to be by her side as friend, pls read on...
now, i would like to say that gals are easy man! if you think easy, they are really easy. i understand the sh!ts and stuff that you wanted to leave but this and but that and miss her and think of her and worry of her, etc. love requires 2 side. apparently, she loves her bf AND loves your friendship. the question we ask ourselves is 'friendship cannot be lovers?' the hard truth is, most girls (80%) would say CANNOT. why? because girls afraid when break up, cannot be friend liau! for guys, that is BS. for us, the more we complement each other, it's better. why? it's male instinct that we don't like to make adjustments in our life. while female instinct is always to be safe than sorry.
ok friend... remember my words and master them. it will teaches you that gals are indeed easy. enough of theory and back to solutions...
6. now you're in miserable state, zombified, etc.
7. get yourself a GF!!! pretend if you have to... be warned that this is the ultimate test. the best step would be ask this 'good good girl' the recommend. this is the killer move.
back to my theory just now. i hope you're smart enough to know what i'm trying to do. that's right, MAKE her do the adjustments! why must the male be the one doing it in a relationship. it's TIME to take charge my friend. step 7 might take a while and next step is very much depended on your progress and what's her reaction. pls use your BRAIN to win the battle of will, not just for feeling sorry for yourself. stand up and be THE man!
8. wait and analyse her reaction. pls make it clear to her that you're hunting for love partner! not just friendster....
btw, there's a good reason doing this. she won't get hurt in anyway. if she jealous enough, she will make adjustment. she will not feel safe anymore. she will consider YOU! you might get lucky and forget about her. can even double date if gf is intro by her. it's good in short term and better in long term... everyone wins!
please feedback with comment if any.
thanks!
is it worth it to do so many things for her??Wake up bro...Time to face reality like a man..No point holding on to something that have no ending...Originally posted by nightyoung:received the hairstylist email about her new hair style the last time..
i gave her my email and she used my email and asked me to receive the her new hairstyle pictures for her..
i am buring into a CD .. then will go to the kodak shop and print out for her..
burn another CD.. her fav. music..
then.. i think i will burn another CD for her bf
thanks i will...Originally posted by mike86:hey nightyoung,
yep i disappeared for quite some time, didn't i? A's and all that, now that it's over, it's essentially prepping for prom and for NS... ah well...
nightyoung, you've got to wake up... i know, easier said than done, otherwise this thread won't be 50 pages long. but as a lot of the other forumites have said, the girl simply doesn't love you, or is seriously too dense to realise that her "very good friend" is actually wanting to be her "very VERY good friend"...
and since guys are supposed to be the denser sex, that chance is low
the girl is just playing you, or is just trying very hard to not lose a friend. that's it. most girls my age ( 18 ) don't know where to draw the line, and i won't be surprised if girls your age still don't either. some people realise that certain behavior leads people on at a much earlier age than others. you just got caught up with someone who doesn't. i am of course giving her the benefit of the doubt...
my problem hasn't ended myself... but i've got NS, so i'm looking for fate to deal with it. if she's meant to be mine, at the end of 2 years or earlier she will be mine. if not, i'll move on and forget about her (i have a feeling my sergeants will do that to me anyway).
i don't know, but to a large extent you have very little self-appreciation.. no offence meant, but you keep hanging on to something that hurts you a lot. you keep coming to bar and grumble over what happens to you practically every day. it strikes me that you don't love yourself enough to let go of something that hurts you badly. it's obvious that you love her, but do you care about yourself?
you need to take some time off and decide what to do for yourself... no more advice given by us can help you... you've got to come up with your own conclusion and see it through. nothing the others have said has helped.
i hope by the time i POP (april) this thread will be long buried and gone...
cheers
I wanted to end on 31st dec...Originally posted by starExcaliblur:Hmmm, spend hours to read through 50 pages of this thread, just gonna to throw in a few cents of my own
Everyone have his/her love/romance stories, be it one with happy endings or one with sad memories, well yours seems to be a one-sided affair after reading from the previous posts
u set the deadline to leave this gd gd girl on 31 Dec 2004, doubt u can really do that (this thread would have buried long ago when u resolve not to meet/answer the gd gd girl's calls/sms)
Rather than wallow in the forum about how much u wanted her to be yr gf/future half, how much things u had did 4 her, miss/love her, why not try to make it happen. As some1 in the forum said, it's TIME u take charge of this relationship & make yr gd gd girl make adjustments. I suppose she knew that u like her, here's my suggested steps:
For 4 weeks, move from gd/best friends to just friends:
1. DO NOT respond to her calls/sms immediately, wait til 2nd sms/3rd ring then respond.
2. Stop sending her breakfast and doing things 4 her
3. DO NOT meet her immediately when she looks 4 u, give excuses like meeting friends for soccer match, etc
4. Fall sick, best illness, flu, fever, sore thoat (A bit old, but sometimes useful step)
(Hopefully steps 1-4 might make her realise yr existence and importance in her heart, make her pine 4 u, panic abt u)
5. Talk happily, crack jokes with her/yr female friends in front of her (flirt with them), shows interest in them
(step 5 is to make her feel jealous, make her panic abt u)
After doing steps 1-5, and she's not even jealous / anxious abt u, u should just either forget her. If can't forget, then buried your feelings 4 her
thanks
Originally posted by nightyoung:I wanted to end on 31st dec...