Porn VCD in school. Over-react? No mercy?
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Do you think the Principal is correct to call the police to catch the students?
I personally thinks its not correct. And its over-reacting and bad handling by the principal.
What do you all think? -
Dear Mr Kortex ...
U r uninformed ... the principle happen to be a female; seemingly a spinster to add ...
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i think theres left oni 5% who nv watch porn ....
den we 95% all catch lor ..... -
govr. encouragign ppl to give birth to hellotsa baby but teens watching porn suffered such ending.. oral sex is illegal..
1 test tube baby ar -
Just because Govt ask us to give birth to more babies...teens should be allowed to watch porn? And has oral sex anything to do with more babies? FYI, if oral sex leads to normal sexual intercourse, it is legal, otherwise, it is not. So what has oral sex alone has to do with more babies?
Anyway, it doesnt mean that almost everyone has watch porn before makes it right for teens to possess them. If we adopt an "oh they gonna get it off the net anyway, give them a break lah" attitude, what kind of message are we sending out? One that couldnt care less? As what someone in the press said, if today for example, the Minister for Health does not wash his hands after going toilet at home, its his own problem. But if he were to come out to the public, he would have to tell everyone that the right thing to do is to wash their hands after going toilet. It is a responsibility. SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY. It is a SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY for the principal to weed out the underlying threat. It is not just that VCD the student had. This incident has brought many issues to light, didnt it? VCD Peddlers trying to get their way into schools. If the police were not called in, such things would never surfaced and one day, VCDs will be found all over the school, then a parent finds out, complain why the SCHOOL NEVER do anything in the first place, what would people say then? If this did not happen in the school, it maybe not within its jurisdiction but it did happened in the school, and the school has the right to uphold its SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY to the rest of the students and their parents.
Anyway, i tot the parents were more concerned about their 'FACE' more than the calling in of the police.
Cheers. -
i think she called the police bcos they wanted to trackdown where the vcd came from... anyway that make the sch "famous" its good it made into the headlines..thats waht she wants..
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It about the future of the children.Originally posted by gasband:Just because Govt ask us to give birth to more babies...teens should be allowed to watch porn? And has oral sex anything to do with more babies? FYI, if oral sex leads to normal sexual intercourse, it is legal, otherwise, it is not. So what has oral sex alone has to do with more babies?
Anyway, it doesnt mean that almost everyone has watch porn before makes it right for teens to possess them. If we adopt an "oh they gonna get it off the net anyway, give them a break lah" attitude, what kind of message are we sending out? One that couldnt care less? As what someone in the press said, if today for example, the Minister for Health does not wash his hands after going toilet at home, its his own problem. But if he were to come out to the public, he would have to tell everyone that the right thing to do is to wash their hands after going toilet. It is a responsibility. SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY. It is a SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY for the principal to weed out the underlying threat. It is not just that VCD the student had. This incident has brought many issues to light, didnt it? VCD Peddlers trying to get their way into schools. If the police were not called in, such things would never surfaced and one day, VCDs will be found all over the school, then a parent finds out, complain why the SCHOOL NEVER do anything in the first place, what would people say then? If this did not happen in the school, it maybe not within its jurisdiction but it did happened in the school, and the school has the right to uphold its SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY to the rest of the students and their parents.
Anyway, i tot the parents were more concerned about their 'FACE' more than the calling in of the police.
Cheers.
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want to track down where the vcd came from, not neccessarily mean that police haf to be called in.Originally posted by lolsuck:i think she called the police bcos they wanted to trackdown where the vcd came from... anyway that make the sch "famous" its good it made into the headlines..thats waht she wants..
furthermore, now then they say tat they wanted the police to track the source. it makes u wonder if that just an excuse since it took them so long to come up with it. -
the sch has a social responsibility to educate the students... i am nt saying calling the police is wrong... but is tat the BEST way to educate them on porn?Originally posted by gasband:Just because Govt ask us to give birth to more babies...teens should be allowed to watch porn? And has oral sex anything to do with more babies? FYI, if oral sex leads to normal sexual intercourse, it is legal, otherwise, it is not. So what has oral sex alone has to do with more babies?
Anyway, it doesnt mean that almost everyone has watch porn before makes it right for teens to possess them. If we adopt an "oh they gonna get it off the net anyway, give them a break lah" attitude, what kind of message are we sending out? One that couldnt care less? As what someone in the press said, if today for example, the Minister for Health does not wash his hands after going toilet at home, its his own problem. But if he were to come out to the public, he would have to tell everyone that the right thing to do is to wash their hands after going toilet. It is a responsibility. SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY. It is a SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY for the principal to weed out the underlying threat. It is not just that VCD the student had. This incident has brought many issues to light, didnt it? VCD Peddlers trying to get their way into schools. If the police were not called in, such things would never surfaced and one day, VCDs will be found all over the school, then a parent finds out, complain why the SCHOOL NEVER do anything in the first place, what would people say then? If this did not happen in the school, it maybe not within its jurisdiction but it did happened in the school, and the school has the right to uphold its SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY to the rest of the students and their parents.
Anyway, i tot the parents were more concerned about their 'FACE' more than the calling in of the police.
Cheers. -
Wah the school so merciless, i mean some people fight in school the school also never call police.
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the chinese call it kill monkey to scare the chicken.
the adults wan face, scare pple know their kids watch prono kena caught...very no face. but dun wanna educate them. reporting them to police mabb bit harsh, but iznt form of education? it serve as a warning to others -
It is definately a case of over-reacting.
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Yah right, if they really concern about their future they should be studying harder.......in biology instead...Originally posted by Ayukat:It about the future of the children. 
So in the name of "STUDENT'S FUTURE" are we going to tolerate porno, gambling, glue sniff'n & etc in school?
There is no right or wrong in reporting to the police...hack even ppl in your neighbourhood will report police if you start singing KARAOKE at 11PM.
So what do you think their parents will do...pamper them some more at home & start buy more porno VCD & playboy magazines?
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I agree with the over reacting thingie ...
I personally have also been caught in school with 10 porno tapes ... ( I am 43 this year, so at that time no VCD). During my time, the policeman all don give a dam.... so I am quite lucky .. my principal was very good she just gave me a warning and told me not to bring to school.... wanna do this kind of things, "after school" she said.
I said okay and walked off her office as if nothing had happened...... but my teacher who caught was not so forgiving. She exposed me infront of all my classmates.... although I got a couple of cheers and a hero's welcome from most of my male classmates, but the females all see me in a different light now...... even those that previously were in love with me .. avoided me ..... sianz !!!
But after tat, I had to pick myself up and start fishing at other schools lor..... wat to do .... a man's gotta do what a mans gotta do . -
Originally posted by stoner:I agree with the over reacting thingie ...
I personally have also been caught in school with 10 porno tapes ... ( I am 43 this year, so at that time no VCD). During my time, the policeman all don give a dam.... so I am quite lucky .. my principal was very good she just gave me a warning and told me not to bring to school.... wanna do this kind of things, "after school" she said.
I said okay and walked off her office as if nothing had happened...... but my teacher who caught was not so forgiving. She exposed me infront of all my classmates.... although I got a couple of cheers and a hero's welcome from most of my male classmates, but the females all see me in a different light now...... even those that previously were in love with me .. avoided me ..... sianz !!!
But after tat, I had to pick myself up and start fishing at other schools lor..... wat to do .... a man's gotta do what a mans gotta do .
10 tapes???
umm... u carry a luggage to school issit? -
when i heard that police were involve, i thought someone was caught selling porn in school, but only bringing need police meh?
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YES. To educate them on porn, a good way is to let them know the reality of it being illegal. That is totally different from sex education. We cannot assume that everyone who brings porn to school is in need of sex education. We can educate them about sex but will that stop them or even scare them from at least bringing porn to the public? Alot of people are educated in sex, but do we see people buy or watch lesser porn just because of sex education? Yes, sex education is important but that is altogether a different matter from making them realise that porn is illegal in Singapore. As for the future of the children, they were not even given a criminal record..so why should their future be affected?Originally posted by weidev:the sch has a social responsibility to educate the students... i am nt saying calling the police is wrong... but is tat the BEST way to educate them on porn? -
no oral sex = lessen chance to have sex.. social responsibility? when u see baby strip in public and urine near the drain or something.. please report the baby to the police
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so in ur opinion... as long as anything against the law happens in sch it shd be reported to the police? so if a student copies during exam he shd be reported to the police for cheating? if a student photocopies an entire textbook to save money he shd be reported to the police due to copyrights? if 2 friends are having fun n one of them accidentally gt hit by the other the friend shd be arrested by the police for assult? if guys playing basketball n took off their shirt they shd be arrested for indecent exposure?Originally posted by gasband:YES. To educate them on porn, a good way is to let them know the reality of it being illegal. That is totally different from sex education. We cannot assume that everyone who brings porn to school is in need of sex education. We can educate them about sex but will that stop them or even scare them from at least bringing porn to the public? Alot of people are educated in sex, but do we see people buy or watch lesser porn just because of sex education? Yes, sex education is important but that is altogether a different matter from making them realise that porn is illegal in Singapore. As for the future of the children, they were not even given a criminal record..so why should their future be affected?
it is a sch for goodness sake. unless the students committed something really bad such as raping a gal in sch, knifing a student and arson den i think yea this student deserves to be handed over to the police... if nt i feel there is no need to alarm the police at all regarding small matters... -
Porn to certain extent is sex education, but great danger lies in the obessive nature for it. One could be turned into a rapist if too much is involved and became addicted. It could turn a normal person into someone that he himself no longer knew before. In my point of view, police will only handle legal issue of porn but in the area of the sexual health of the students, u need professional doctors to take care of them. It is a medical and mental health issue of growing people, if un-taken care of, they will still go back to it after sometime.Originally posted by My Intimate Care:Do you think the Principal is correct to call the police to catch the students?
I personally thinks its not correct. And its over-reacting and bad handling by the principal.
What do you all think?
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I still think calling the police is too much.
Those are still 14 yrs old.
And so wat if they are regretable later?
Can someone guarantee they will not watch at a later age??
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Let's look at this incident at another point of view. The school kept the 17 boys back 7 hours without food or drink. This caused one of the boys that had a rare illness to fall sick. The principal had to inform the police to protect her reputation as people will wonder why the boys are being kept for 7 hours, pretty smart move don't you think?
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Where do you draw the line then? Calling the police is not necessarily bad. Is this how we look at the police? The police serves as a deterrence rather than just a fear tactic.Originally posted by weidev:so in ur opinion... as long as anything against the law happens in sch it shd be reported to the police? so if a student copies during exam he shd be reported to the police for cheating? if a student photocopies an entire textbook to save money he shd be reported to the police due to copyrights? if 2 friends are having fun n one of them accidentally gt hit by the other the friend shd be arrested by the police for assult? if guys playing basketball n took off their shirt they shd be arrested for indecent exposure?
it is a sch for goodness sake. unless the students committed something really bad such as raping a gal in sch, knifing a student and arson den i think yea this student deserves to be handed over to the police... if nt i feel there is no need to alarm the police at all regarding small matters...
So if you wanna bring so many scenarios in, may i ask you what is REALLY BAD? Where do you draw the line? If today they watch porn, tomorrow they peep at a girl in the toilet, is that REALLY BAD or are they JUST CURIOUS, so we should let them go? Then what should we do when they go on to try what they see in the porn video? REALLY BAD or CURIOUS? If your definition of REALLY BAD is that it harms another person, then how do we know another person is not harm in this case? If someone did not initiate watching the porn, maybe another guy who have no access to this VCD wun watch it. Again, calling in the police is NOT necessarily a bad move if we see it as a deterrence. When we hear neighbours quarrel until very heated and making alot of noise, we sometimes fo call police. Police comes, warns them, they stop. Its deterrent. Its not a criminal record.
Anyway, its true most of us have watch porn before. But in this case, it uncovered the truth that porn pirates are trying to sell its way into schools. Is that a concern for you or is it "Ah, its ok." -
calling the police is nt bad in this case? one of the boys is at home nw wondering if he will be charged. if he is ever convicted in court his future will nt be glorious anymore. if he is nt convicted yes it is nt a criminal record... but there will always be a police report AGAINST him.Originally posted by gasband:Where do you draw the line then? Calling the police is not necessarily bad. Is this how we look at the police? The police serves as a deterrence rather than just a fear tactic.
So if you wanna bring so many scenarios in, may i ask you what is REALLY BAD? Where do you draw the line? If today they watch porn, tomorrow they peep at a girl in the toilet, is that REALLY BAD or are they JUST CURIOUS, so we should let them go? Then what should we do when they go on to try what they see in the porn video? REALLY BAD or CURIOUS? If your definition of REALLY BAD is that it harms another person, then how do we know another person is not harm in this case? If someone did not initiate watching the porn, maybe another guy who have no access to this VCD wun watch it. Again, calling in the police is NOT necessarily a bad move if we see it as a deterrence. When we hear neighbours quarrel until very heated and making alot of noise, we sometimes fo call police. Police comes, warns them, they stop. Its deterrent. Its not a criminal record.
Anyway, its true most of us have watch porn before. But in this case, it uncovered the truth that porn pirates are trying to sell its way into schools. Is that a concern for you or is it "Ah, its ok."
if todae they watch porn n peep at a gal tomorrow it will be on a case by case basis then. if they do it repeatedly, i still don think the police shd be called in... maybe send those boys for professional counselling. if it is their first time doing so... i confirm chop chop don agree to calling the police... this topic is regarding sec sch children... IMO adults shd be able to think for themselves.... sec sch children r going through puberty... they r curious bout everything under the sun. juz cos they r curious bout porn u call in the cops? wat is this?
the thing here is tat i feel tat it is NT necessary to call in the police at all on 14 year olds. Instead of scaring them into nt doing it... i prefer the softer way of approaching; teaching them into nt doing it.
the news stated tat ONLI one disc is found between the 17 kids and u r here saying that porn is being sold in sch. even if they r nt sold in sch they can be bought anywhere in singapore as long as u chanced upon it. instead of calling the police unto them... teach them instead. -
If the principal was so noble and wanted to call the police, to punish the students, to set a good example, to trace down the source of the VCD etc. She would have do so earlier instead of keeping back the students for 7 hours. She is only using the student's mistake to cover her mistake of not allowing the students to eat or drink for 7 hours. She knew she wouldn't be able to answer to the media if she didn't called the police. What kind of principal is this? She ruined the future of 17 boys for her own.