Manual or Auto ?
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Hello !
I would like to ask this . Do you guys prefer future taxis to have automatic gearbox or manual ones ?
Automatic ones are more 'relaxing' to drive . But have lower fuel efficiency than manual gearbox .
Manual is harder or more of a hassle to drive . But good top speed and better fuel economy .
Which u prefer ?
To me , i think manual better . But hey ! Some cars have gearbox that are capable of both automatic and manual usage ! Known as tiptronic . -
steptronic gearboxes don't last..
manual ftw.. -
auto, easier.
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Wah . I didnt know that !Originally posted by rathcycle:steptronic gearboxes don't last..
manual ftw..
Anyway what is ftw ?
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Manual can be relaxing actually
In fact changing of gears kinda of keeps you awake -
Yeah . Maybe change gear in a relaxed manner ? No need to shift so fast like race cars (manual one , not talking abt semi-auto) .Originally posted by sbst275:Manual can be relaxing actually
In fact changing of gears kinda of keeps you awake -
for the win/worldOriginally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:Wah . I didnt know that !
Anyway what is ftw ? -
I guess when you change gears too quickly, the gearbox will sustain some damage. Saw some cabbie drive Crown or Cedric, change too fast and got a lockup (loud crack sound), but most have good experience and change at the correct time to suit the adequate torque.
I choose manual.
How about 0405 (bus) W3E gearbox? Step/triptronic too? -
cabbies drive long hours and on a daily basis.
for that i think auto more relaxing. -
Erm more likely damage to the clutch i think . If gears damage think because the gear never mesh up properly . Manual tranny dont have the lock up mechanism . It all depends on the clutch to connect the engine to the gearsets . The sound u heard is most likely that while shifting gear , the gears grind against one another.Originally posted by jetabt767400:I guess when you change gears too quickly, the gearbox will sustain some damage. Saw some cabbie drive Crown or Cedric, change too fast and got a lockup (loud crack sound), but most have good experience and change at the correct time to suit the adequate torque.
I choose manual.
How about 0405 (bus) W3E gearbox? Step/triptronic too?
Oh ya u said transfer of torque , that also depends on clutch . Nothing to do with gears . As long as the gears dont mesh properly , the car will not move and the gear will get damaged instead .
The W3E. is not a Tiptronic gearbox . Also , Step/Tiptronic are for cars and light vehicles only . For heavy vehicle they use semi-auto trans .
Btw , the W3E. is a fully automated gearbox , not semi-auto , not Step/Tiptronic. -
manual is better. they are quieter.
manual ones the cabbies like to keep revving and over-rev, drag gear
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YEAH .Originally posted by 105090:manual is better. they are quieter.
manual ones the cabbies like to keep revving and over-rev, drag gear
Esp with the turbo diesel. Turbo sound man . -
To be exact, all buses have buttons for shifting gears, except the Dennis Darts that use the Allisons gear lever. Even the Merc W3E is button-operated.Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:Erm more likely damage to the clutch i think . If gears damage think because the gear never mesh up properly . Manual tranny dont have the lock up mechanism . It all depends on the clutch to connect the engine to the gearsets . The sound u heard is most likely that while shifting gear , the gears grind against one another.
Oh ya u said transfer of torque , that also depends on clutch . Nothing to do with gears . As long as the gears dont mesh properly , the car will not move and the gear will get damaged instead .
The W3E. is not a Tiptronic gearbox . Also , Step/Tiptronic are for cars and light vehicles only . For heavy vehicle they use semi-auto trans . Btw , the W3E. is a fully automated gearbox , not semi-auto , not Step/Tiptronic.
FYI, the Holden Commodore taxis in Perth use auto gear. Maybe the taxi operators back home should consider bringing in this type of vehicle. -
Besides more relax driving an Auto , it's also safer to drive auto ..... auto provide more effective engine brake .... sudden brake also very effective .
Auto fuel consumption lower . -
taxi should manual...safer...
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your logic being? as long as the person behind the wheel is unsafe, no car, be it auto or manual, is safe.Originally posted by Aaron8209:taxi should manual...safer... -
If you are talking about fully-automatic torque convertor gearbox with manual override, FC is the same as normal auto gearbox with no manual override..because it is still an auto gearbox but with manual override, that's all..Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:Hello !
I would like to ask this . Do you guys prefer future taxis to have automatic gearbox or manual ones ? Automatic ones are more 'relaxing' to drive . But have lower fuel efficiency than manual gearbox .
Manual is harder or more of a hassle to drive . But good top speed and better fuel economy .
Which u prefer ? To me , i think manual better . But hey ! Some cars have gearbox that are capable of both automatic and manual usage ! Known as tiptronic . -
The hyundai sonata cabs can run auto and manual. Gear D is auto while Gear + & - is manual , this is what the driver of SH6819Z told me , clutchless manual!
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Even Kia Magentis and Skoda Superb have this dual mode transmission, so far I have yet to see any driver manually shifting the gear, they just leave it at D position.
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the manual override is retarded response...no use using one...its just a novelty.
The Merc's auto also have...but I think the Merc and Skoda can shift a little faster than their Korean friends'. -
Yeh the manual option is quite useless imho on most semi auto gearboxes. No change in fuel consumption as they are still using a torque converter and the shift is rather slow for most. Unless you are talking abt the selespeed or DSG
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some cab drivers like 100 years nvr drive auto cars den the other time i sat on one sonata cab and the driver was like racing!
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yeah, can explain wats a selespeed?
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Selespeed is name of electrohydraulic manual transmission used in Alfa Romeo cars and it is developed by Magneti Marelli. The Selespeed is robotized manual gearbox with electronic clutch, it can be operated via paddle shifters from steering wheel or via "joystick" like real sequential manual gearbox. With right hand side paddle shifter the driver can shift upwards and from left side downwards. The gearbox also has a city-mode which allows using the gearbox like traditional automatic gearbox.
Selespeed was first introduced in 1999 in the Alfa Romeo 156.[1] At that time it was the first car in its class with such a robotized gearbox. This first version had buttons on the steering wheel for changing gear. With the facelift of the 156 in 2002 these buttons were replaced by paddle shifters.
During normal driving it is possible to use either paddles or joystick but if the driver tries to use paddles during joystick mode the joystick has higher priority. Speed of gear change depends on used engine revs, if the engine has more than 5000 rpm and throttle is pressed more than 60% the change is faster. System has also rev limiter to avoid over revving, in GTA models this behaviour is removed. This gearbox is made for sportive driving but the city-mode allows using it like automatic gearbox in city driving.
Newest generation of Selespeed has 'Sport' mode for both manual shifting and automatic operating.[2]
System is produced by Italian company Magneti Marelli. Other cars using similar gearbox is eg. Ferrari F355 F1 and Aston Martin Vanquish.[3] Base system is similar in all cars but the speed of operation is usually faster in higher priced cars. BMW's first generation SMG was also partly Magneti Marelli system.[4]
It's like the Formula 1 gearshift, using paddles behind the steering wheel, no clutch pedal. Since it uses a "robotized" clutch system it is just like a manual car unlike most auto transmission cars which use a torque converter. -
cool.....