Good news alot of cabby will return cab after CNY
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weekday dropped... wkend stable
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i just came frm airport.
taxies were seen queueing up at the slip road from TPE > ECP already.............. wah never see before leh so long! -
11pm plus , is it ?
Has been like dat for years liao .... Aiyo don't be so surprised leh ....
Seriously , why are they doing it ?
Now it's worthwhile to Q for an hour , by the time they got a customer , 12am liao , midnight charge liao .
No luck kena Tampines also got $15.00 .....
Imagine the cabby kena go Jurong West St.91 ? Almost $40 ..... but 50% chance go down City area ( hotel ) depending on flights .... mostly Terminal One the cabbies all Q at ....
British Airways touch down liao .... also i think NorthWest also touch down , and one Qantas .
All ang-mo ..... good chance go down City .
I would say 70% of the cabbies from the Q is daily basis one , they from anywhere in Spore , when time to go up Airport , they will do so . We called it regulars . Or tan-jiak kar .
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yes. at the start of the slip road, the left lane cannot use already. frm tampines(where i enter PIE), behind all sea of empty taxies.
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Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):
got cab but cannot afford = no cab but can afford .... got different meh?
There would be a big difference for the cabbies... If no one can afford to pay for the rides will mean that no one will take cab... Then the cabbies' families eat what? -
Hmm ..... for those cabby-to-be , can seriously think about driving a cab .
Now consider bad times ..... if T3 fully functional , AirAsia gets on track , Singapore Flyer starts at March 2008 , then non-stop conventions and exhibitons at Suntec and Expo .... F1 Night race ....
And both IRs ........ good times lies ahead !
I am not quitting for now .
Guru,
Just attended my first (Orientation Class) on line course last night,seeing is believing.
Wow really so many of them. According to the instructor this are not only we are seeing according to her. They had been conducting, many for this volume for the past few weeks.
But just wondering is she telling the true, but over here from you taxi veterans, the stories is totally different, taxis are more pax are less on road and taxi drivers are returning their key one by one...according to this thread. Who is telling the true than.
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The best way to help taxi drivers is to reduce the rental fee, and not to increase the taxi fee.
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Originally posted by kinwashi:
White is white , black is black . Who say what ? Why worry ?
True , taxis obviously will be alot if less pax .
Capable drivers dun resign . Capable drivers are smart enough to wait til after CNY then see how . Not now , soon la .
How can u explain , when i can get from 5pm til 12.45am , my nett salary is $161 ? If there's less paxes , i cannot get nett salary $161 by 12.45am . Not miracle , just hardwork with wits , plus anlalysis .
Mind u , it's a Tuesday , not Friday night .
She told u what ? I also dunno .
What i just know , Singapore 4.5million people , i don't need 4.5million to feed me , just 20 each night , good enough .
Find 20 people to take your taxi , difficult ? Out of 4.5million people ?
Just think how ? If today get only 19 , think of ways to get the 20th the next day !!
If Orchard dun have , go Shenton Way area , if Shenton Way dun have , go disco and pubs area .
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Taxi driving is your own business .... No boss ! You yourself is the boss !
Every single business , there's a winning formula , i never change my winning formula . I will only change if environment changed , circumstances force the situation to change .
I keep exploring new , better formula .
If i get $160 tonight , i will try to get $160 or more the next day . If i get $150 , i will go home and think why i failed to get $160 , where's my mistakes ? And i will never make the same mistake again !
well , sometimes , it's all in your head .
And your motivations .
And the push within yourself , to a higher level .
Treat yourself both as an employee and an employer .
If u are a staff , and not performing , what ways will you explore to improve the performance, so as to impress your boss ?
If u're the employer , what will u do to improve your staff ? So as to improve the company ?
So as in , cabbies , in dual role !
Logic ???
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Originally posted by eagle:
The best way to help taxi drivers is to reduce the rental fee, and not to increase the taxi fee.
Never will work . -
Originally posted by kinwashi:
Hmm ..... for those cabby-to-be , can seriously think about driving a cab .
Now consider bad times ..... if T3 fully functional , AirAsia gets on track , Singapore Flyer starts at March 2008 , then non-stop conventions and exhibitons at Suntec and Expo .... F1 Night race ....
And both IRs ........ good times lies ahead !
I am not quitting for now .
Guru,
Just attended my first (Orientation Class) on line course last night,seeing is believing.
Wow really so many of them. According to the instructor this are not only we are seeing according to her. They had been conducting, many for this volume for the past few weeks.
But just wondering is she telling the true, but over here from you taxi veterans, the stories is totally different, taxis are more pax are less on road and taxi drivers are returning their key one by one...according to this thread. Who is telling the true than.
Best way is to go to the ground and see for yourself... the long q of empty taxi in town area and airport cannot be false right? So i will say business is down (down how much depends on individual) and whether pple return taxi will also depends on pple... but i will say becoming a new hirer is something I will not do now... rather be a relief and monitor....
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Originally posted by Poolman:
Never will work .Why wont that work? Prime cab fees is only ard S$70+- wherelse others ard $90~$100. I know that wont happen. Neither will cab fare readjustment with lower fuel cost. But i am curious as to why wont it work?
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Under normal circumstances, quite hard for taxi companies to lower rental when their cost did not do down and every companies has different ways of attracting new hirers unless they really desperate for hirers... but then hor comfort got sonata for much cheaper than crown and yet they charge higher rental for sonata. Damn greedy
of course as a driver i also want to have lower rent without any fare increase.....
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Lower the rental ?
How much can they lower ? Discount $5 or ok la $10 , or $15 ? Does that matter alot ?
It does not matter alot to me if got business .... like $150 nett salary per day , Sonata half shift $52 is nothing . $46 for crown is also nothing .
Realistically , $40 rental and $50 , not much of a different to me . Only $20 against $50 rental means alot , but i am realistic , $20 cannot be la .
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poolman, a technical question for you. If you have to SAVE TIME or to SAVE DIESEL, which one would you choose? If you have to pick up someone to go somewhere, would you SAVE TIME by travelling the quickest way (may not be the shortest way) or SAVE DIESEL by travelling the shortest way (may not be the quickest way).
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Originally posted by TayBuanGuan:
poolman, a technical question for you. If you have to SAVE TIME or to SAVE DIESEL, which one would you choose? If you have to pick up someone to go somewhere, would you SAVE TIME by travelling the quickest way (may not be the shortest way) or SAVE DIESEL by travelling the shortest way (may not be the quickest way).
Take shortest time route. And even better if the shortest time is longer distance cos fare depends on distance. So you collect more in shortest time...
If you take shortest distance route but take longer time, that is the worst choice for all taxi drivers....
diesel cost is insig compared to time difference and fare difference
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Originally posted by TayBuanGuan:
poolman, a technical question for you. If you have to SAVE TIME or to SAVE DIESEL, which one would you choose? If you have to pick up someone to go somewhere, would you SAVE TIME by travelling the quickest way (may not be the shortest way) or SAVE DIESEL by travelling the shortest way (may not be the quickest way).
Of course save time !! Time is $$$ for me , diesel is not much for trips in S'pore .
Why i say that ?
My cost for diesel is $0.92 (estimate) per 10km .
10km , do u know my meter jump how much ? as in 330m = $0.20 .
I alight my current pax fast , i can pick up another pax , already $3.00 flg down .
My one night diesel cost is about $25-$30 , if peak hour i take 3 $10 trips , my whole night diesel over heads already covered . $10 in City is like from Suntec to Bencoolen , that near , walk also can reached . One hour job .
Time or diesel ?
Time for me , diesel nevermind . Of course , if one way or the other , i can save diesel and time , better still !
If there''s only one choice , time is precious for us .
That's why cabbies always if given a choice , they would go by Expressway if possible , less traffic lights , no jam is the best .
Cabbies hates jam ? U got heard before ? Jam waste time .
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What ALN spoken , also what i am trying to say .
Longer route , shorter time , we make $$$ , and won time .
Shorter route , longer time , we make $$$ , but lost time .
Quite hard to express .... only when u are on the road , then u know the ba-woo of time-wasting .
That's why cabbies can be driving very fast at times .... speeding at times .
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Thank you poolman & ALN for your reply.
I have another question. Would you frequent a place whereby there are consistently passengers waiting for taxi BUT the trip are short say 6 - 8SGD per trip and the duration of the trip is avg as per a 6 - 8SGD trip.
I was at AMK Hub recently and noticed that the taxi queue is quite long about 7-12 people within any 1/2 hour time frame from 12pm onwards to about 5pm. Assuming the queue is consistent, would it make sense to continue picking up passenger from the same place if most of the passenger will be only going to AMK area and occassionally to upper thomson, bishan or yio chu kang?
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Hahaha ...i pass by AMK Hub around 10pm , i think ....
Did i go into the t/s for the customers ?
No ! I did not !
Why ?
Because as u've said , the people all stay around there one .
Yishun , Sengkang , Yio Chu Kang , Hougang , Punggol all dead end one .
Earn $8 averagely , time : almost 30 minutes ( from pick-up of customer , to the time i hit town again )
I rushed down town .... from AMK to ChinaTown 8 minutes .
Gor a booking $3.50 , City Charge $3 , to Sembawang total $26 . Total time used : 45 minutes maximum .
If i go back to AMK Hub , 1 hr i earned only $16 !
I hit town 45 minutes i got $26 .
Which one is good deal ?
Again , day shift and second shift , due to fare structure , one cabby can adopt different strategy .
I am a second shift driver , so i adopt "go-town" earn City Charge philosophy .
Simple and clear-cut .
Same apply to Tampines Mall , i would rather go Airport for the $3-$5 airport surcharge or City
Same apply to WhiteSand , i would rather go Airport once again or City
Same apply to Jurong Point , i would rather go Tuas Industrial Area , or City .
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This is one of the winning formula .... There is no unless for me as far as i am concern .
Even if some customer want me to alight them specifically at AMK Hub T/S , i would still not pick anyone from the T/S , i would still rush into town .
How ?
Customer alight liao , straight away put BUSY .
Until inside CBD liao then put to TAXI again .
Like that not illegal , cabby have the right not to pick anyone from the taxi stand , not a must , but must put BUSY to indicate our intention .
Customer complaint no use one ....
i urgent want to go toilet pang jio , can ?
I hungry liao ... stomach glo glo glo liao , must eat , can ?
I eat liao , digestion too fast , wanna go pang-sai , can ?
Anyway , cabby no need to give any reason to anyone , just a simple BUSY , kao tim .
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Originally posted by ALN:
weekday dropped... wkend stable
why the forum interface changed liao? don't know how to private message liao
ALN: Hover around the username, say Poolman,
theres a small 'key' thingy at the bottom left, click and then 'Send Message'. -
Thanks again for your valuable insight! Poolman.
Another question (probably will know about it during the lesson but might as well ask). If you put on the 'Busy' status and about to head to town, it happens that there is a booking (needing a taxi now) say in AMK to Airport (near where you alight your recent passenger), would the system allow you to take on the call? Or do you need to turn your Busy status off before the system allows you to answer the booking? Again thank you for your time.
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Busy mean totally no booking coming in .
If i want booking , once i got out of the t/s , straight we switched back to TAXI , done !!
Once TAXI , booking will come in as usual .
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Originally posted by TayBuanGuan:
Thank you poolman & ALN for your reply.
I have another question. Would you frequent a place whereby there are consistently passengers waiting for taxi BUT the trip are short say 6 - 8SGD per trip and the duration of the trip is avg as per a 6 - 8SGD trip.
I was at AMK Hub recently and noticed that the taxi queue is quite long about 7-12 people within any 1/2 hour time frame from 12pm onwards to about 5pm. Assuming the queue is consistent, would it make sense to continue picking up passenger from the same place if most of the passenger will be only going to AMK area and occassionally to upper thomson, bishan or yio chu kang?
Poolman calculation makes sense. Good town makes more within same time provided business good and got booking.
For me, just a part time. Enjoyable driving is also an important factor for me beside money... my driving style is i:
- I don't like go same places too often (sian) Sometimes go airport, then clark quay, then HDB more fun..
- I like to pick and go (dont like to q long at taxi stand or go jammed area even though got business)
- I dont like to pick big group or with heavy load (too crowded and noisy in taxi and waste time loading/unloading)
- I don't like short route (turn left then right
The best scenario for me is pick a single person, from street and across the island via expressway. No jam, no load, no need to enter so many carparks... just drive and drive....
The worst is big family and kids with full trolley and go within same estate..
That one is a nighmare