Why Masturbation Is Harmful
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http://www.sinc.sunysb.edu/clubs/buddhism/ksitigarbha/chap5.html
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Originally posted by Uncreated:
The western medical fraternity has always maintained that masturbation is harmless.However,
Taoism,and even modern TCM,hold that masturbation
is not without harm,though the latter may take time
to manifest.
In Taoist internal alchemy,the practitioner focuses on three things,viz "jing","qi" and "shen"
which all reside inside us."Jing" has two forms,
visible and invisible.The invisible form is produced from our nutriment,the food and drinks
we ingest and digest.When the sexual urge comes,
this invisible "jing" partly changes into the
visible form,which is the semen in males.In the
female,it is the liquid produced during sexual
arousal.
In the ordinary person,where sexual thoughts
and acts are frequent,a part of our nourishment
keeps going to produce the semen and the "liquid",
resulting in very little invisible "jing" even in
the healthy individual.This can result in a weak
immune system,and the person can get sick easily.
Even a common flu could progress to some serious
condition unexpectedly,if the immune system is
overly weak due to weak invisible "jing".
In the Taoist practitioner,it is totally
different.By consciously abstaining from all
sexual thoughts and acts,he or she,via certain
meditational and breathing techniques,attempts
to transform the great amount of invisible "jing"
into "qi",then "qi" into "shen",then "shen" into
one(union) with the cosmic consciousness.When the
sexual urge arrives,the ordinary person will seek
release through sex or masturbation,but not the
practitioner.It is the time to "harvest the medicine"("cai yao") when the urge comes,sublimating this urge into "qi" first via
certain techniques of meditation and qigong.When
all the "jing" has transformed into"qi",the person
will have a ruddy countenance and a healthy glow
in the face,like some Buddhist monks and nuns.He
or she always feel energetic,seldom tires,and very
peaceful within.Food and drinks intake,and sleep
are reduced.Even during very cold conditions,he or
she almost never feels any coldness.The feet and knees always feel warm,unlike the frequent
masturbator,who also experiences frequent lower back pains.In TCM,this is a sign that the kidneys
are turning weak,as they store the invisibe "jing".
If one isn't careful,then dialysis is the only way
out.
For the practitioner,eyesight will also improve,
even becoming perfect if the "qi" is full and bouncy.At this stage he or she almost never falls
sick,unless because of advanced age.
The next level(stage),transforming "qi"into "shen" is even more difficult.Deep meditation is
involved here,along with some dangers if the
meditator starts to have stray thoughts or attachments.An experienced teacher,not any Tom,
Dick,Harry meditation teacher,is needed here.Some
blokes in Singapore can become mediation teachers
after meditating for a while.I find this amazing.
When things go awry,they don't know how to handle.
When you try to warn them,they brush you aside.Hence don't just join any meditation class,even if it is free.
This stage is itself "subdivided" into several
stages,like the first,second,third jhanas of Buddhist meditation.The names are different,but
the realities are the same.The final stage is
"san hua ju ding,wu qi chao yuan" in Taoist terms,
loosely rendered as"The Three Flowers gather at the
top of the head,and the Five Qis return to the Origin."At this stage,no harm can come within 3
feet of the practitioner.So no need to worry about
Sars or dengue fever or earthquakes or cyclones.
The final process also involves "pi gu",avoiding
all solid food for a certain period.Something like
fasting for 40 days and 40 nights.Anyway,there is
very little craving for food now,due to the strong
"qi"and "shen".This is the direct opposite to the
average person,who always feels hungry after sexual
activities.At this stage too,the saliva becomes sweet,there is brightness when both eyes are shut,and
he or she can see very clearly in pitch darkness.
All these we can validate for ourselves if we practise.The practioner will also feel no sadness,
worry or anxiety with regard to his or her own
living conditions.His or her so-called"soul" can
also separate from the physical body at will,going
anywhere,even to deep outer space.
Hogwash?
Read up carefully on the Buddhist and Taoist Canons,preferably in Chinese.
Those who masturbate frequently not only will
get ill easily due to weak immune systems,they may
become "empty shells" because of depletion of "jing","qi" and "shen".This may not be known from
appearance,but a spiritually advanced person can
discern it.Furthermore,"empty shells" have higher
risks of encountering"shas",accidents,or problems
with the "low spirits" realms.Just one visit to a
hospital could also make that person sick.
So,please don't keep thinking of sex.Just don't
think of it and occupy yourself with other activities,such as reading a good book,or go jogging.
The Little Wooden Hut
of
Madhyamaka-YogacaraThat's quite insightful, but........
I have already found my GOD, my salvation. So even if I have to die anytime, I know exactly where I will be going to. :)
Would you like to know more about my GOD, Jesus Christ?
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Originally posted by parn:
That's quite insightful, but........
I have already found my GOD, my salvation. So even if I have to die anytime, I know exactly where I will be going to. :)
Would you like to know more about my GOD, Jesus Christ?
I checked your profile and past posts.
Sorry man, don't defile Jesus's teachings.
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FUck Buddhist.
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
I checked your profile and past posts.
Sorry man, don't defile Jesus's teachings.
So you know Jesus's teachings?
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Originally posted by parn:
That's quite insightful, but........
I have already found my GOD, my salvation. So even if I have to die anytime, I know exactly where I will be going to. :)
Would you like to know more about my GOD, Jesus Christ?
Faggot.
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People who live by religions are faggots. See how Iraqis are utilised by the Americans for Bush's United Defence?
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On a serious note though, the purpose and goal of Buddhism is not about getting rid of all unwholesome act. Getting rid of unwholesome actions is an important practice, but it is not the goal or the purpose of Buddhism. Avoiding bad rebirths and gaining good rebirths is also not an ultimate goal. Ultimately it's not a matter of morality (morality is important but when it comes to the the big matter of birth and death, we're dealing with the part of Wisdom and Insight/Intuitive-Awareness) but the insight that allows the complete seeing through and ending of all suffering, a.k.a Liberation, Enlightenment and Nirvana. The ending of all samsaric cycles, the supreme bliss and liberation.
On the other hand, 'Salvation' by Christ is always misunderstood. It means Christ crucified your sinful 'self' or ego, you have to die and let God, to be born again in Spirit, ( only then is there salvation. Born in Spirit means, a spiritual birth, living in Spirit, AS Spirit (as Christ is our Life). Nothing needs to be done on your part -- all self-effort to perfect one's inherently sinful 'self' or 'ego' (aka. via 'Good Works') is doomed to fail, the only thing is to let go and let God.
What is important here, is a transforming union with Christ. When there is a true spiritual birth, as one is Born in Spirit, the signs are damn obvious -- it is not just a matter of belief, it is not a matter of one's emotional experiences and certain experiences and miraculous encounters or things like that. One will find God as inseparable from one's being, no longer see God as a separate entity from 'I'! The old 'I' is dead, for now Christ is your Life. The new birth will be clear and undoubtable when it happens. The relationship with God becomes a whole different level.
Note that I am not saying that Buddhism and Christianity is ultimately similar, there are similarities and subtle differences (in terms of the path), but the problem is Christianity is simply misunderstood by most people including many or most Christians themselves and one of the long time Christian forummer admitted to me that this is the case (as I have suspected). So I am just presenting a better understanding of the Christian faith in a non-biased way, and I may not be the most appropriate person to do so but... if you're interested to find out if what I said is true go check from reliable sources.
God did not transform our old unsaved selves. No, He crucified it. He nailed it to the cross with Christ. God does not expect anything from our old unsaved selves. We donÂ’t expect anything from a dead man.
Paul: I no longer live, but Christ lives in me! (Gal. 2.20)
If you want to discuss anything related go to my forum thread. http://buddhism.sgforums.com/forums/1728/topics/321931#post_8192137
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
On a serious note though, the purpose and goal of Buddhism is not about getting rid of all unwholesome act. Getting rid of unwholesome actions is an important practice, but it is not the goal or the purpose of Buddhism. Avoiding bad rebirths and gaining good rebirths is also not an ultimate goal.
On the other hand, 'Salvation' by Christ is always misunderstood. It means Christ crucified your sinful 'self' or ego, you have to die and let God, to be born again in Spirit, such that it is no longer and only then is there salvation. Born in Spirit means, a spiritual birth, living in Spirit, AS Spirit (as Christ is our Life). Nothing needs to be done on your part -- all self-effort to perfect one's inherently sinful 'self' or 'ego' (aka. 'Good Works') is doomed to fail, the only thing is to let go and let God.
What is important here, is a transforming union with Christ. When there is a true spiritual birth, as one is Born in Spirit, the signs are damn obvious -- it is not just a matter of belief, it is not a matter of one's emotional experiences and certain experiences and miraculous encounters or things like that. One will find God as inseparable from one's being, no longer see God as a separate entity from 'I'! The old 'I' is dead, for now Christ is your Life. The new birth will be clear and undoubtable when it happens. The relationship with God becomes a whole different level.
Note that I am not saying that Buddhism and Christianity is ultimately similar, there are similarities and subtle differences (in terms of the path), but the problem is Christianity is simply misunderstood by most people including the Christians themselves and one of the long time Christian forummer admitted to me that this is the case (as I have suspected). So I am just presenting a better understanding of the Christian faith in a non-biased way, and I may not be the most appropriate person to do so but... if you're interested to find out if what I said is true go check from reliable sources.
God did not transform our old unsaved selves. No, He crucified it. He nailed it to the cross with Christ. God does not expect anything from our old unsaved selves. We donÂ’t expect anything from a dead man.
Paul: I no longer live, but Christ lives in me! (Gal. 2.20)
If you want to discuss anything related go to my forum thread. http://buddhism.sgforums.com/forums/1728/topics/321931#post_8192137
Somebody get this retard out of his misery.
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Originally posted by KungPaoChicken:
Somebody get this retard out of his misery.
Buddhism is the way out of all miseries.
p.s. update my post
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Originally posted by Uncreated:
Yes, we all die sooner or later.But is death really the end?Do we suffer in the hereafter?
Try reading this Buddhist sutra online:
The Sutra of the Original Vows of Ksitigarbha Bodhisattva.
I knew I'll get flamed when I started this thread.Well,it's alright,as the flaming
will result in some of my past bad karma being exhausted.But do be careful.You
may create unwholesome karma for yourself if my words are not wrong.
Hi Uncreated, I must add even though your article is interesting, I do not think we can advocate sexual abstainance to lay persons. The Buddha has never advocated sexual abstainance to lay followers. If one wishes to be celibate as a lay, it is entirely due to his own personal choice.
As a Buddhist, as a lay person, we just have to avoid immoral sexual activities, and know balance. We should not indulge in sexual pleasures too much to the detriment of our physical, emotional, mental, spiritual health.
What is important is to continue developing insight. The way to end dualistic attraction is not through suppression but insight on the ultimate level.
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
Buddhism is the way out of all miseries.
p.s. update my post
Awwww, go shave your head, poke 6 holes and shave your armpit and shave your groin. Be a goddamn monk, walk near a casino, and see all the gamblers shun u till you nothing to say. Buddhism sucks, the Burmese in my class is being laughed at everyday just because he is a buddhist. So stop making a fool of urself.
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
I checked your profile and past posts.
Sorry man, don't defile Jesus's teachings.
Let's have a bet of faith?
I standby my conviction in my GOD, Jesus Christ.
I know exactly where i'm going when I die. Do you share the same faith as me?
Would you like GOD to be our judge?
Reply YES if you really know GOD, Jesus Christ and you also shares the same faith and conviction like me.
IF you do not know me in real life and has never met me, do not make judgement about me. Instead, it is polite to know me first.
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Originally posted by KungPaoChicken:
FUck Buddhist.
I was just kidding. I'm sorry if you took it seriously, never intended to.
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Originally posted by parn:
Let's have a bet of faith?
I standby my conviction in my GOD, Jesus Christ.
I know exactly where i'm going when I die. Do you share the same faith as me?
Would you like GOD to be our judge?
Reply YES if you really know GOD, Jesus Christ and you also shares the same faith and conviction like me.
IF you do not know me in real life and has never met me, do not make judgement about me. Instead, it is polite to know me first.
Was just kidding :) The 2nd post was more important. The first post is just for fun, I don't mean it. Sorry it has caused misunderstandings.
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Originally posted by KungPaoChicken:
Faggot.
You're lucky there isn't even a name invented for people who lives by KungPao Chicken.
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Originally posted by KungPaoChicken:
Awwww, go shave your head, poke 6 holes and shave your armpit and shave your groin. Be a goddamn monk, walk near a casino, and see all the gamblers shun u till you nothing to say. Buddhism sucks, the Burmese in my class is being laughed at everyday just because he is a buddhist. So stop making a fool of urself.
It seems you have no understanding of Buddhism... please don't pass comments at things you don't understand.
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
I was just kidding. I'm sorry if you took it seriously, never intended to.
Why do you even apologise to someone who worship food and has long forsaken the need for a religion?
I'm good, don't worry about the previous post. :)
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why is religion discussed even in this sub forum?
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Were there any rule in the first place that doesn't allow us to discuss and express our religion?
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Originally posted by parn:
Let's have a bet of faith?
I standby my conviction in my GOD, Jesus Christ.
I know exactly where i'm going when I die. Do you share the same faith as me?
Would you like GOD to be our judge?
Reply YES if you really know GOD, Jesus Christ and you also shares the same faith and conviction like me.
IF you do not know me in real life and has never met me, do not make judgement about me. Instead, it is polite to know me first.
I do not want to talk about myself, but I do have forummers who know exactly where they will end up the after death. To them, birth and death is over, they have seen the deathless. I'm still outside the gate. Similarly many people think they are going to enter the kingdom of heaven, but they have no idea yet what transforming union is by direct experience. They still see God as separate.
As a forummer once said,
...Many Christians here cannot accept what I say, even though it was Jesus who said, "You must be Born Again" and "You must be born of the Spirit" and insists that it is simply "believe, have faith" and not a "new birth" in you (the other school hope that as long as you believe you then assume you have new birth
) As if you need to hope and not know
something so obvious as a new birth in yourself...Belief and faith is important, but is it just a conceptual belief, or a new birth?
Anyway... talked too much, won't say any further.
Regarding differences of path,
Sunyata by A.H.Almaas, a Islamic Sufi Contemplative and also a Buddhist practitioner:
If love leads the devotee to the point of the extinction of personality in the fire of truth, awareness can lead him to the point of seeing that ego does not really exist, and hence achieve the same goal of selflessness. Love melts the lover into the ocean of truth, there remain no traces of an “I”. Awareness, on the other hand, cuts through the illusion of a separate identity. It exposes the lie of ego: that it exists as a reality. Love melts ego away, while awareness is like turning on the light and seeing that there is nobody there. The outcome is the same in both cases, but the flavor of the path is different. One is more emotional, the other more insightful. The vocabularies of the two paths differ as a result. The path of love seeks union with the Beloved, while the path of awareness seeks the seeing of naked Reality. Just as prayer is the central practice in the path of love, meditation is the central practice in the path of awareness... (continued in the URL)
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Yah, sorry if if mods find this discussion bothersome. Sorry if we're being disrespectful to any forum rules (are there any??)
Maybe the moderator should have their say.
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
Yah, sorry if if mods find this discussion bothersome. Sorry if we're being disrespectful to any forum rules (are there any??)
Maybe the moderator should have their say.
No need to be so hard upon yourself, this is just a forum. Express yourself and forget.
It's one of the places that people are allowed to express themselves freely and anonymously.
Each of us have a reason why we visits forums regularly and how we expressed ourselves.
Unfortunately, some people chose to visit forums with an intention to offend and flame and run and post irresponsibly.
Whatever may happen, I believe we must always be true to ourselves and our beliefs or else we will still be lost even when we have aged.
Ageing is a natural process, but Growth isn't.
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Thanks
BTW I also want to add that the article posted by Uncreated is a Taoist practice. This is not a Buddhist practice... so please don't confuse. Buddhism and Taoism are separate religions.
Nevertheless it is still interesting.
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wah..... monk also visit this forum now ar... power sia.... anyway... welcome u to talk about sex here.. but if u wan to talk about ur heaven heaven thing here... then u dun force us to go invade ur forum to talk about sex ok...
