Dear Doctor Reno
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if people are desparate, it dosent really matter to them. They are willing to pay the price. Same like going under the knife to lose weight.Originally posted by renorenal:This is very drastic...
But nevertheless it is based on bone growth and its principles on physics...
erm..psychology thing...ask alfagal 4 more info if interested
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Numb with fright.Originally posted by alexkusu:numb with what? joy and excitement? -
so..still want to get taller?Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Numb with fright. -
Through natural means like nutrition and sports. No artificial means for me.Originally posted by alexkusu:so..still want to get taller? -
well..if nutrition..u need to adhere strictly to it..cant jus follow 1-2weeks the eat watever u wanOriginally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Through natural means like nutrition and sports. No artificial means for me.
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Erm...this might sound like a stupid question and cause people to say that I am not being serious again...but what causes dark rings under the eyes and what can be done to get rid of them?
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/pat patOriginally posted by rainee:Erm...this might sound like a stupid question and cause people to say that I am not being serious again...but what causes dark rings under the eyes and what can be done to get rid of them?
who say u not serious liddat one! tell me n i go edit their posts
u wan to knw wat cause black eyes frm activities that u do or in a scientific way...eg..blood vessels constrict, etc etc -
The skin tissue has a type of cell called melanocytes, which responds to hormones such as Melanocyte Stimulating Hormone (MSH) from the precursor of Pro-Opio MelanoCortin (POMC).Originally posted by rainee:Erm...this might sound like a stupid question and cause people to say that I am not being serious again...but what causes dark rings under the eyes and what can be done to get rid of them?
This MSH responds to the stress hormones called ACTH (AdrenoCortocotropin Releasing Hormone) from the anterior pituitary glands and when this hormones are released, it will act on the skin tissues and causes the pigmentation which you see as black.
You may ask why not other places? Well, the accumulation of these pigments are noted to be more dense in the lower eyelids...
The other site is the abdomen, anyone pregnant before will notice a dark pigmented midline which disappears after pregnancy... -
u go edit ur own post lorOriginally posted by alexkusu:/pat pat
who say u not serious liddat one! tell me n i go edit their posts
u wan to knw wat cause black eyes frm activities that u do or in a scientific way...eg..blood vessels constrict, etc etc
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so caused by stress?Originally posted by renorenal:The skin tissue has a type of cell called melanocytes, which responds to hormones such as Melanocyte Stimulating Hormone (MSH) from the precursor of Pro-Opio MelanoCortin (POMC).
This MSH responds to the stress hormones called ACTH (AdrenoCortocotropin Releasing Hormone) from the anterior pituitary glands and when this hormones are released, it will act on the skin tissues and causes the pigmentation which you see as black.
You may ask why not other places? Well, the accumulation of these pigments are noted to be more dense in the lower eyelids...
The other site is the abdomen, anyone pregnant before will notice a dark pigmented midline which disappears after pregnancy... Not enuff sleep can cause it oso? -
You have to ask yourself why not enough sleep lor... normally under stress such as insufficient sleep will trigger the stress pathway where a lot of these ACTH hormones are produced... it's normal ending pathway is to stimulate steroidal hormones to help cope with the extensive stress by increasing blood supply to areas which needs them...Originally posted by rainee:so caused by stress? Not enuff sleep can cause it oso?
When there is excessive ACTH, part of it is broken down to its byproducts such as MSH...
The stress pathway
Corticotrophin Releasing Hormone (hypothalamus) --> ACTH (anterior pituitary glands) --> Adrenal glands (Steroidal hormones such as glucocorticoids and mineralocorticoids) -
Dear doctor, what drug that is available over the counter that is stronger than ibuprofen?
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any suggestion on how to get rid of dark rings? I know shud lessen my stress level, but sometimes no choice, esp when got lots of exam around the corner...Originally posted by renorenal:You have to ask yourself why not enough sleep lor... normally under stress such as insufficient sleep will trigger the stress pathway where a lot of these ACTH hormones are produced... it's normal ending pathway is to stimulate steroidal hormones to help cope with the extensive stress by increasing blood supply to areas which needs them...
When there is excessive ACTH, part of it is broken down to its byproducts such as MSH...
The stress pathway
Corticotrophin Releasing Hormone (hypothalamus) --> ACTH (anterior pituitary glands) --> Adrenal glands (Steroidal hormones such as glucocorticoids and mineralocorticoids) Anything I can apply around the eyes to make it less obvious? -
COX 2 inhibitors --> Celecoxib (Celebrex), Rofecoxib (Vioxx)...Originally posted by alexkusu:Dear doctor, what drug that is available over the counter that is stronger than ibuprofen?
The added advantage is that it does not act on the gastric mucosa lining and irritates it like ibuprofen (Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs - NSAID), hence preventing gastritis...
Other same classes as ibuprofen which can cause gastritis includes - Naproxen, Ketoprofen, Indomethacin, Piroxicam, Aspirin, Diclofenac, and Mefenamic Acid (Ponstan)... There are many more but these are the ones commonly used... -
That one you should know rite? I mean girls are more proficient in beautifying and cover-ups / make-ups rite? Hehehe...Originally posted by rainee:any suggestion on how to get rid of dark rings? I know shud lessen my stress level, but sometimes no choice, esp when got lots of exam around the corner... Anything I can apply around the eyes to make it less obvious?
Reducing stress is the one way, others include drink a lot of fruit juices... I've heard a combination of cucumber and tomato (from the Juice Fusion stall), but I am not sure whether that works or not... -
lol dun mean make up la...I know that can be used...what I mean is what can be applied to make it less dark...like I heard if u put aloe vera around the eyes then will make it less dark...but not sure if true or not...and very hard to find aloe vera plant here so cannot try it...Originally posted by renorenal:That one you should know rite? I mean girls are more proficient in beautifying and cover-ups / make-ups rite? Hehehe...
Reducing stress is the one way, others include drink a lot of fruit juices... I've heard a combination of cucumber and tomato (from the Juice Fusion stall), but I am not sure whether that works or not... -
COX 2 inhibitors...sounds familiar.. i heard it increases the likely hood of getting heart attacks...
btw doc, u surfin sgforums at work? no real-life patients today? -
Bleach yourself. Sure very white.Originally posted by rainee:any suggestion on how to get rid of dark rings? I know shud lessen my stress level, but sometimes no choice, esp when got lots of exam around the corner... Anything I can apply around the eyes to make it less obvious? -
pls give constructive suggestionOriginally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Bleach yourself. Sure very white. -
sidetrack abit ah...
rainee, for oral sex..get the guy to drink alot of pineapple juice..it lessens the bitter taste of sperm. -
erm..um..ahem
keep to topic ya! -
Yes, ibuprofen, diclofenac, naproxen and celecoxib was shown to increase the likelihood of getting heart attacks, but if you use it for short term, that wouldn't be a problem...Originally posted by alexkusu:COX 2 inhibitors...sounds familiar.. i heard it increases the likely hood of getting heart attacks...
btw doc, u surfin sgforums at work? no real-life patients today?
These medications are usually used in long term for those who are having chronic arthritis such as osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis or gouty arthritis, hence they are more likely to get gastritis, kidney failure and the now proven heart attack likelihood...
No, Deeparaya break... -
haha this one I know alreadyOriginally posted by alexkusu:sidetrack abit ah...
rainee, for oral sex..get the guy to drink alot of pineapple juice..it lessens the bitter taste of sperm.
And cannot eat lots of meat, otherwise will have very pungent smell. And of cos must drink lots of water and eat lots of fruits -
For your interest, here is a newspaper article:-
http://www.timesonline.co.uk
The Times June 10, 2005
Alert after everyday painkillers linked to danger of heart attack
By Nigel Hawkes
Research has found that some regular prescription drugs increase the threat by up to 50 per cent
COMMON painkillers taken daily by hundreds of thousands of arthritis patients significantly increase their risk of having a heart attack.
The shock results of a trial show that all drugs prescribed for the control of pain and inflammation carry similar heart risks.
This means that 400,000 patients in Britain who were switched from the drug Vioxx (rofecoxib) last September when its heart risks came to light may be worse off, depending on which alternative their doctor prescribed. The trial, using data from GPs across Britain, indicates that all drugs classed as non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) increase the risk of heart attack by at least 20 per cent, and some by as much as 50 per cent.
The class includes ibuprofen, which is bought over the counter, the prescription drugs diclofenac and naproxen, as well as newer and purportedly better treatments such as Celebrex (celecoxib).
Arthritis Care said that it was concerned about the findings and urged patients prescribed any of these drugs to consult their doctor.
The study applies to long-term use of the drugs, not occasional use to treat headaches. The results of the study, by Julia Hippisley-Cox and Carol Coupland, from Nottingham University, published in British Medical Journal, indicate that all the drugs increased heart attack risk when taken in the three months before the attack: Vioxx by 32 per cent, Celebrex by 31 per cent, ibuprofen by 24 per cent, diclofenac by 55 per cent and naproxen by 27 per cent.
Other drugs in the Vioxx class, which are known as COX-2 inhibitors, increased risks by 27 per cent, while other older NSAIDs increased risks by 21 per cent.
“Our study offers no reassurance that the increased risk of myocardial infarction (heart attack) is specific to rofecoxib alone or specific to COX-2 inhibitors,” the report said. “We think that enough concerns exist to warrant a reconsideration of the safety of all NSAIDs.”
The older drugs — ibuprofen, naproxen and diclofenac — have been around for so long that all are out of patent. Some earlier studies have suggested that they increase heart attack risks but this has been overlooked because they cause the more serious side-effects of bleeding in the stomach or the development of ulcers.
Because aspirin, a closely related drug, reduces the risks of heart attacks, NSAIDs had been felt by many to have a neutral or even beneficial effect on the heart.
The study is not conclusive, though, because observational studies that compare cases with controls are liable to error.
An editorial in BMJ by Peter Juni and Stephan Reichenbach, of the University of Berne, and visiting professor Matthias Egger, of the University of Bristol, urged caution in interpreting the study and suggested that large clinical trials may be required ultimately to “establish the best and safest treatment for patients with musculoskeletal pain”.
The message for arthritis sufferers is that there is no perfectly safe drug to control their pain. But Celebrex emerges as well as any other and, given that it has lower ulcer risks than traditional NSAIDs, may remain the choice for many doctors.
Neil Betteridge, the chief executive of Arthritis Care, said: “We urgently need the medical profession to take a lead in helping people with arthritis decide what treatment is right for them.”
Peter Weissberg, the medical director of the British Heart Foundation, said: “It would be wrong to change clinical practice on the basis of current evidence, but it is important we build on this work and address the question in properly constructed and controlled trials.
“For now, any patients who are prescribed NSAIDs should be reassured that the results indicated a very low incidence of heart attack. These people may consider the slight increased risk to be acceptable when offset against welcome pain relief.” -
Actually I take i take ibuprofen for headaches..under the name Nurofen since i find panadeine n aspirin quite weak.