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oh, he does.. he sees that i am a big abomination.Originally posted by mystiv:thats bad..
he has to see that something is wrong.. -
Now i'm really thankful i do not worship anything.
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sounds fun to meOriginally posted by CoolMyth:Just like to say something from the bottom of my heart.
The truth is I have a rather bad opinion of Christians. Something about their teachings just kinda pisses me off.
Peharps I grew up on a Buddhist environment, being at peace and using mediation and stuff are more important than obeying God's teachings and stuff.
Christianity seems to have that feel of control and manipulation of people that seriously turns me off. It seems they're using God as an excuse to influence people's thoughts and thinkings without extoting(sp?) perharps the true teachings of God? I don't know.
If any of these turn off anyone, I'll apologise in advance.
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i've been there and done that...Originally posted by rainee:yes chc...
and it makes me doubt them..
cos it seems like the moment they heard that my ai ai wants to change church, someone who is supposedly a leader there, who has never talked to my ai ai for a long time already, suddenly asked him out and persuaded him not to change church. And told him that all the political squabbles are caused by my ai ai's close friend. Because he is older and supposed to be wiser, my ai ai believed him.
I just think it is a bit fishy
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si mi???Originally posted by hisoka:sounds fun to me 
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wait, if I am a believer, I am not supposed to be questioning certain stuff I am not sure of?Originally posted by hisoka:
then you are not truely a believer
What does it mean to have followers when all of them are just following out of fear, not because they truly want to learn, and that they are truly enlightened of the teaching and really think that the religion is the best for them? -
my mum just believes in peace in the family. she will eat sht to stop dad from flaring up and hitting me. but prob is, i am the one who's scared dad will hit her. if only she will keep her mouth shut when i am having a row with dad. she always makes things worse. and then i have to kneel and apologise to get her out of his hands.Originally posted by hisoka:apparently the mum's a pretty big fan or it too.... -
the Scriptures in the Bible are good..
it is usually the hubris of man that perverts the teachings for their own gain...
you see the same thing in Islam and the terrorists now.. -
your speech sounds fun no offence at all but then i'm not christianOriginally posted by CoolMyth:si mi??? -
at first, things started out pure.Originally posted by CoolMyth:Just like to say something from the bottom of my heart.
The truth is I have a rather bad opinion of Christians. Something about their teachings just kinda pisses me off.
Peharps I grew up on a Buddhist environment, being at peace and using mediation and stuff are more important than obeying God's teachings and stuff.
Christianity seems to have that feel of control and manipulation of people that seriously turns me off. It seems they're using God as an excuse to influence people's thoughts and thinkings without extoting(sp?) perharps the true teachings of God? I don't know.
If any of these turn off anyone, I'll apologise in advance.
but humans, being humans, and imperfect, will corrupt things. you can't hide the fact that huge amounts of money is involved in mega churches these days, so you just do the math... -
yup. +1. my church frowns on questioning authority. MCPs. they cant argue their way around me, so they say i am screwed.Originally posted by rainee:wait, if I am a believer, I am not supposed to be questioning certain stuff I am not sure of?
What does it mean to have followers when all of them are just following out of fear, not because they truly want to learn, and that they are truly enlightened of the teaching and really think that the religion is the best for them? -
All children love their mums.Originally posted by starblue:my mum just believes in peace in the family. she will eat sht to stop dad from flaring up and hitting me. but prob is, i am the one who's scared dad will hit her. if only she will keep her mouth shut when i am having a row with dad. she always makes things worse. and then i have to kneel and apologise to get her out of his hands.
But it is not good that you're actually shifting the pain from your mum onto yourself. Sometimes, you just have to let go.
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this case its not really a case about religion i guessOriginally posted by seow:Now i'm really thankful i do not worship anything.
more of the dad..
IMO, no matter which religion you believe in, there are the true and good, erm, people and places..if anyone gets wad i mean -
aiya I dunno la...Originally posted by CoolMyth:Just like to say something from the bottom of my heart.
The truth is I have a rather bad opinion of Christians. Something about their teachings just kinda pisses me off.
Peharps I grew up on a Buddhist environment, being at peace and using mediation and stuff are more important than obeying God's teachings and stuff.
Christianity seems to have that feel of control and manipulation of people that seriously turns me off. It seems they're using God as an excuse to influence people's thoughts and thinkings without extoting(sp?) perharps the true teachings of God? I don't know.
If any of these turn off anyone, I'll apologise in advance.
cos if I am going to be together with my ai ai, which is sth we both really want, I definitely need to become a Christian...
But I dun wan to embrace the religion yet just because of our relationship, I want to be one after I have learned enough about it and know that it is a better religion than the one I have currently...
But hearing all these horror tales just put me off... -
not sure i'm a non-believer but to me if you believe in a religion you are a blind believe if for nothing mroe than you believe in god on blind faith and you believe that the bible/quaran/etc are god's wordsOriginally posted by rainee:wait, if I am a believer, I am not supposed to be questioning certain stuff I am not sure of?
What does it mean to have followers when all of them are just following out of fear, not because they truly want to learn, and that they are truly enlightened of the teaching and really think that the religion is the best for them? -
make that a hundred fold for my church. even i as a christian cannot wait to get out of there.Originally posted by CoolMyth:Just like to say something from the bottom of my heart.
The truth is I have a rather bad opinion of Christians. Something about their teachings just kinda pisses me off.
Peharps I grew up on a Buddhist environment, being at peace and using mediation and stuff are more important than obeying God's teachings and stuff.
Christianity seems to have that feel of control and manipulation of people that seriously turns me off. It seems they're using God as an excuse to influence people's thoughts and thinkings without extoting(sp?) perharps the true teachings of God? I don't know.
If any of these turn off anyone, I'll apologise in advance. -
Ermmm...fun?Originally posted by hisoka:your speech sounds fun no offence at all but then i'm not christian -
Share the same sentiments, and i too, haven't got a good opinion of them, do not know why though...Originally posted by CoolMyth:Just like to say something from the bottom of my heart.
The truth is I have a rather bad opinion of Christians. Something about their teachings just kinda pisses me off.
Peharps I grew up on a Buddhist environment, being at peace and using mediation and stuff are more important than obeying God's teachings and stuff.
Christianity seems to have that feel of control and manipulation of people that seriously turns me off. It seems they're using God as an excuse to influence people's thoughts and thinkings without extoting(sp?) perharps the true teachings of God? I don't know.
If any of these turn off anyone, I'll apologise in advance. -
it is always tempting to take the easy way out...guess you now know....Originally posted by starblue:yup. +1. my church frowns on questioning authority. MCPs. they cant argue their way around me, so they say i am screwed. -
i enjoy watching pple bash religionsOriginally posted by CoolMyth:Ermmm...fun? 
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yup. i have been stupid then. now, i dun care a sht if he hits mum. best is to leave a bruise then i can call the police.Originally posted by CoolMyth:All children love their mums.
But it is not good that you're actually shifting the pain from your mum onto yourself. Sometimes, you just have to let go. -
just dun go my church. you should be safe.Originally posted by rainee:aiya I dunno la...
cos if I am going to be together with my ai ai, which is sth we both really want, I definitely need to become a Christian...
But I dun wan to embrace the religion yet just because of our relationship, I want to be one after I have learned enough about it and know that it is a better religion than the one I have currently...
But hearing all these horror tales just put me off... -
bad idea to let go....because you never will...the best option will be one that's extremely painful and difficult and shouldn't be discussed here, so let's leave it....Originally posted by CoolMyth:All children love their mums.
But it is not good that you're actually shifting the pain from your mum onto yourself. Sometimes, you just have to let go. -
Well said.Originally posted by the Bear:the Scriptures in the Bible are good..
it is usually the hubris of man that perverts the teachings for their own gain...
you see the same thing in Islam and the terrorists now..
That's why consciously, I tend to stay away from Christians, lest I get "corrupted" by their hocus-pocus and mambo jumbo stuff?
It's kinda like Bush said "Either you are with us, or you are against us." -
human and the corrupted mind..Originally posted by the Bear:the Scriptures in the Bible are good..
it is usually the hubris of man that perverts the teachings for their own gain...
you see the same thing in Islam and the terrorists now..
if things are bad now, it would be interesting to see what happens in the future. for things doesnt seem likely to change for the better..