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Speaking of which...Originally posted by LazerLordz:just laughing to dispel my stress.
well, I've finished my presentation notes...now for the essay..
I've had to deal with a plagiarist for my group essay. It was through his pure laziness that I managed to rat him out. You can find the relevant thread in Whinehouse for the full story.
And now I'm finally editing the group essay. My team members seem to be content with just throwing in all the facts and figures into the essay without actually using them to advance the main argument.
So now I'm forced to try to reword their disjointed and fragmented points into what seems like a coherent attempt to advance our main argument, enlighten the reader and prove our point. That's a pretty tall order, considering that the combined essay is 7500 words long, filling up 25 pages of MS Word.
Arrrgh.....
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Yep, saw your post..Originally posted by fudgester:Speaking of which...
I've had to deal with a plagiarist for my group essay. It was through his pure laziness that I managed to rat him out. You can find the relevant thread in Whinehouse for the full story.
And now I'm finally editing the group essay. My team members seem to be content with just throwing in all the facts and figures into the essay without actually using them to advance the main argument.
So now I'm forced to try to reword their disjointed and fragmented points into what seems like a coherent attempt to advance our main argument, enlighten the reader and prove our point. That's a pretty tall order, considering that the combined essay is 7500 words long, filling up 25 pages of MS Word.
Arrrgh.....
I wonder..editing a 7500 group essay or writing a 3000 word solo essay..which is harder.. -
writing 3000 word solo is harder.... i find editing a breeze. which kinda explains a bit why i always thought being a teacher might be a good idea.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Yep, saw your post..
I wonder..editing a 7500 group essay or writing a 3000 word solo essay..which is harder..
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Yeah man!Originally posted by starblue:/pats on LL, who's travelling on the same boat as i am
i should have named the crapbox "75 gulps of sorrow for the academically drowning souls"
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been doing that .. i think i would find it equal..editing is not easy..because people write in different ways..Originally posted by starblue:writing 3000 word solo is harder.... i find editing a breeze. which kinda explains a bit why i always thought being a teacher might be a good idea. -
editing comes easy to me. like now, i'm trying to squeeze words into my intro and i get stuck every other phrase. T~TOriginally posted by LazerLordz:been doing that .. i think i would find it equal..editing is not easy..because people write in different ways..
think my intro draft will turn out to be quite sucky... -
and i present my keyboard, a beacon of filth.
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I would far prefer writing a 3000-word essay than editing a combined 7500-word essay written by four separate people.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Yep, saw your post..
I wonder..editing a 7500 group essay or writing a 3000 word solo essay..which is harder..
It is really no joke at all, trying to combine the work of four people into a coherent, logical whole. And my teammates' habit of simply tossing the points in without using them to advance their arguments makes things worse.
And don't get me started with some of their grammar, either... my Sec 4 English teacher would scream if she were to see the kind of grammar that they use.
On top of that, there are team dynamics to consider. There always seems to be a slacker/freeloader in whatever team I work in.
And this time, the freeloader is a bloody plagiarist as well. And he seems to be highly unrepentant of what he did - I still have yet to hear a single word of apology from him. -
make him do presentation notes the next time, that one is more of collating information and summarising them. make full use of his "ahem" ways.Originally posted by fudgester:I would far prefer writing a 3000-word essay than editing a combined 7500-word essay written by four separate people.
It is really no joke at all, trying to combine the work of four people into a coherent, logical whole. And my teammates' habit of simply tossing the points in without using them to advance their arguments makes things worse.
And don't get me started with some of their grammar, either... my Sec 4 English teacher would scream if she were to see the kind of grammar that they use.
On top of that, there are team dynamics to consider. There always seems to be a slacker/freeloader in whatever team I work in.
And this time, the freeloader is a bloody plagiarist as well. And he seems to be highly unrepentant of what he did - I still have yet to hear a single word of apology from him.
every group will have a slacker or a freeloader.. me? I'm the kind that doesn't seem to be very on the ball and may not be always at meetings, but I will meet deadlines passed on to me and give you everything needed, and more.
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That fella gave me everything I need, all right.Originally posted by LazerLordz:make him do presentation notes the next time, that one is more of collating information and summarising them. make full use of his "ahem" ways.
every group will have a slacker or a freeloader.. me? I'm the kind that doesn't seem to be very on the ball and may not be always at meetings, but I will meet deadlines passed on to me and give you everything needed, and more.
The work just isn't his, that's all.
And he thinks that I'm out to besmirch his name when I involved everyone in the team when I threw the allegations of plagiarism at him.
Well, it does involve everyone, since his actions could have caused all of us to get zero for the essay and face disciplinary action. And I needed them to witness all the accumulated proof of his plagiarism so that he couldn't deny the evidence.
Pffft. I refuse to work with him in the future. -
holys hit!!!
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Hmm? What happened?Originally posted by starblue:holys hit!!! 
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relax dude.... i'm sure you wont have to work with him in future lah.... just like how i wont be working with some of my *cough*incompetent*cough* project mates.Originally posted by fudgester:That fella gave me everything I need, all right.
The work just isn't his, that's all.
And he thinks that I'm out to besmirch his name when I involved everyone in the team when I threw the allegations of plagiarism at him.
Well, it does involve everyone, since his actions could have caused all of us to get zero for the essay and face disciplinary action. And I needed them to witness all the accumulated proof of his plagiarism so that he couldn't deny the evidence.
Pffft. I refuse to work with him in the future. -
oh, nothing much. just that i saw that filthy like sht keyboard.Originally posted by fudgester:Hmm? What happened? -
Lack of competency is one thing. Not everyone is created equal.Originally posted by starblue:relax dude.... i'm sure you wont have to work with him in future lah.... just like how i wont be working with some of my *cough*incompetent*cough* project mates.
Bad grammar and vocabulary, I can edit. I know what I was asking for when I volunteered to be the team's editor.
But this fella was lazy, dishonest, uncaring, selfish, narrow-minded and totally unconcerned with how his actions can seriously affect the lives of others. That bugger could have caused the whole lot of us to get zero for that essay (30% weightage) and made us face a disciplinary panel, and he can't even have the courtesy of apologising to everyone.
Arrrgh... just thinking about this whole thing is stressing me out.
I really gotta watch my blood pressure.... at last count, it was pretty elevated (134/110).
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Dump the bugger after this..Originally posted by fudgester:Lack of competency is one thing. Not everyone is created equal.
Bad grammar and vocabulary, I can edit. I know what I was asking for when I volunteered to be the team's editor.
But this fella was lazy, dishonest, uncaring, selfish, narrow-minded and totally unconcerned with how his actions can seriously affect the lives of others. That bugger could have caused the whole lot of us to get zero for that essay (30% weightage) and made us face a disciplinary panel, and he can't even have the courtesy of apologising to everyone.
Arrrgh... just thinking about this whole thing is stressing me out.
I really gotta watch my blood pressure.... at last count, it was pretty elevated (134/110).
You need to calm down. It won't be any good trying to edit something on an angry mind and elevated BP. Tea is a good way of lowering that.. -
speaking of tea, i just got the worst choke of my life drinking that green tea. man, that was really one humungous choke. cough until my left lung hurts. o.OOriginally posted by LazerLordz:Dump the bugger after this..
You need to calm down. It won't be any good trying to edit something on an angry mind and elevated BP. Tea is a good way of lowering that..
anyway, i realised that i'm spending more time typing my references than my actual introduction.
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What a dirty keyboard. Spoil my appetite, man.
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how come you choked on green tea?Originally posted by starblue:speaking of tea, i just got the worst choke of my life drinking that green tea. man, that was really one humungous choke. cough until my left lung hurts. o.O
anyway, i realised that i'm spending more time typing my references than my actual introduction. 
hmm..a lot of citations eh.. -
how i know?? i drinking drinking then suddenly saw this very useful paper to cite then in my excitment, i forgot to close my glottis before swallowing. end up one sizeful amount of green tea proceeded down my windpipe.Originally posted by LazerLordz:how come you choked on green tea?
hmm..a lot of citations eh..
yah loh... i'm like plagarising from a lot of sources liddat. one phrase here, one phrase there. then end up must cite a lot of papers. -
wtf?
My calculator now has a time latency of a few seconds when i input stuff inside. -
yo.. how's life? never reply my PM?Originally posted by CoolMyth:What a dirty keyboard. Spoil my appetite, man. -
I dun know how to reply to your reply.Originally posted by starblue:yo.. how's life? never reply my PM?
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eh.... wad was my reply again ah?? i forgot le.Originally posted by CoolMyth:I dun know how to reply to your reply. -
You want me to copy and paste here?Originally posted by starblue:eh.... wad was my reply again ah?? i forgot le.