See...u be impress...
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http://www.layeredchaos.com/CSi/FQ400-Topgear.wmv
See....evo kanna lift to sky high cloud 9 but... step til jia lat .. but over all. still good...
Mayb some kind soul can help make te link click den can see liao...no need to type...i computer idiot. Die die must see...
evo vs the wat lambogini "ma-sure-la-go" -
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U see the whole video...lolx...listen wat the guy say when intro the evo. 0-60 at wat "less den 4 sec????""'Originally posted by HENG@:
OMFG!!!!!!!!!
u be impress wid te video. -
Murcielago? vs the EVO8 MR VFQ400??? no fair la! even the zonda lost to it.
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actually, no. because as far as almost 6 months ago, I knew Mitsu was planning on making the EVO8 MR VFQ400. Its even faster than the Zonda, and I know how well sorted the EVO's chassis is. So 6 months ago, I was already impressed.Originally posted by bo liao:U see the whole video...lolx...listen wat the guy say when intro the evo. 0-60 at wat "less den 4 sec????""'
OMFG!!!!!!!!!
u be impress wid te video.
Anyways, JC can overtake. The Muecielago is understeering. but yeah bad turbo lag. u need to play with the gearbox a lot to keep it in the correct rpm range. -
haha.. no la...jus sharing wid everyone the video on how the presentor say the best point of the evo as fast as the Murcielago...wid the background music..so impressive of the evo..den the 2nd part of the video...lolx....haha...Originally posted by HENG@:Murcielago? vs the EVO8 MR VFQ400??? no fair la! even the zonda lost to it. -
i watched the FQ320 around the track. yes the VFQ is much faster, but it understeers more. no understeering car is fun. I agree with what JC said. the FQ320 is the one to buy.
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Nbz...must check wid friend how much liao ..hahaha...if i can tahan 1 rex & a van for a while...tis evo should not be much of a problem... must buy more lottery liao...
ya....mayb get 1 haha.. but dunno wil it come into singapore..lolx..
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honestly, I must still say, given the choice between the 2, i'd still take the lambo. why? take the lambo n then sell it la. can buy 3 EVO VFQ400s.
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paiseh. the VFQ400 is not offered in sg. only in Europe. in fact its a model specific to UK and is imported as the FQ320, b4 they rebuild and tune up the engine to 400bhp and tighten the chassis up here. Anyways the EVO8 MR VFQ400 costs about 47,000 quid, which would be about S$150k without import tax, road tax and COE yet. definately going to be about at least S$200k, possibly as much as $S250k IF its ever cleared for import into singapore.Originally posted by bo liao:Nbz...must check wid friend how much liao ..hahaha...if i can tahan 1 rex & a van for a while...tis evo should not be much of a problem... must buy more lottery liao...
ya....mayb get 1 haha.. but dunno wil it come into singapore..lolx..
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Originally posted by HENG@:paiseh. the VFQ400 is not offered in sg. only in Europe. in fact its a model specific to UK and is imported as the FQ320, b4 they rebuild and tune up the engine to 400bhp and tighten the chassis up here. Anyways the EVO8 MR VFQ400 costs about 47,000 quid, which would be about S$150k without import tax, road tax and COE yet. definately going to be about at least S$200k, possibly as much as $S250k IF its ever cleared for import into singapore.
lik tat i get the M3 better...u really can go in the F1 or the WRC industry liao.. -
well the M3 and this beast are totally different driving experiences.Originally posted by bo liao: lik tat i get the M3 better...u really can go in the F1 or the WRC industry liao..
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There was one episode of top gear where a tuned evo8 FQ had such a huge turbo lag, it couldn't keep up with a what suzuki or daihatsu in a straight line.
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U mean the Fiat Stileo Estate. Thats the episode thats mentioned here at the top of the thread!Originally posted by ditzy:There was one episode of top gear where a tuned evo8 FQ had such a huge turbo lag, it couldn't keep up with a what suzuki or daihatsu in a straight line. -
They were both travelling at 30mph in top gear (thats sixth gear for the evo). Yeah, I am going to be travelling at 50kmh in 6th gear.... thats aobut 1,300rpm!!! Thats almost stalling revs!!Originally posted by ditzy:There was one episode of top gear where a tuned evo8 FQ had such a huge turbo lag, it couldn't keep up with a what suzuki or daihatsu in a straight line. 
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I think what JC is trying to show is that the fact on turbo lag....Of course if you downshift, then your rev will be at the correct range, then no turbo lag, no point proven...Of course, no one drives an evo like this, he is at one extreme end of the spectrum.... Also, it is interesting to note a 400bhp evo cannot beat a NA fiat if the turbo is not spooled up...
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amongst other things, compression ratio is lower in TC cars. If you put the F430 in top gear against a bicycle with both starting from a standstill - the ferrari will also take sometime to catch up with the bike, IF it can move from a stand still in first place. Is this interesting too?Originally posted by free4ever:I think what JC is trying to show is that the fact on turbo lag....Of course if you downshift, then your rev will be at the correct range, then no turbo lag, no point proven...Of course, no one drives an evo like this, he is at one extreme end of the spectrum.... Also, it is interesting to note a 400bhp evo cannot beat a NA fiat if the turbo is not spooled up... 
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the purpose was to demonstrate the turbo lag if you're not in the proper rpm band for the gear. That was never meant to mean that it's a slow car, just to show the turbo lag. No doubt he showed that, if driven properly, It has no trouble keeping up with a Murcielago, in fact, you could see that in certain corners, the EVO corners tighter, faster and harder, and I am sure that it wouldn't have problems keeping up with a Pagani Zonda too.Originally posted by dansplace:They were both travelling at 30mph in top gear (thats sixth gear for the evo). Yeah, I am going to be travelling at 50kmh in 6th gear.... thats aobut 1,300rpm!!! Thats almost stalling revs!!
As usual, JC is a joker - theres something known as downshifting...
Having said that, do u remember the episode where they pitted the FQ320 against the WR1? comparing the laps done in the FQ320 and the VFQ400, I'd say the FQ320 actually looks more fun, even if it is slower. -
actually now that u mention it, yes it IS interesting. Top Gear ought to do a test like that too.Originally posted by dansplace:amongst other things, compression ratio is lower in TC cars. If you put the F430 in top gear against a bicycle with both starting from a standstill - the ferrari will also take sometime to catch up with the bike, IF it can move from a stand still in first place. Is this interesting too? -
"a fit, young racing driver in a supercar, and he cannot pull away from a fat man, in a 4-wheel saloon"
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dun believe the mistake though. James Kay was very specifically told to spin at that point. Look at the way he spun. No attempts to correct the slide at all, and that wiper bit was for show. IF u were racing n your rears were spinning so much that coulds of tyre smoke was blowing from them, u'd lift off a bit to attempt to gain rear traction.Originally posted by Theatre Of Dreams:"a fit, young racing driver in a supercar, and he cannot pull away from a fat man, in a 4-wheel saloon"
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ya it does seem like a well crafted spin. haha they just have to make evo seem the winner cos she's the protagonist. hey the wipes are on to signal defeat as part of tradition?Originally posted by HENG@:dun believe the mistake though. James Kay was very specifically told to spin at that point. Look at the way he spun. No attempts to correct the slide at all, and that wiper bit was for show. IF u were racing n your rears were spinning so much that coulds of tyre smoke was blowing from them, u'd lift off a bit to attempt to gain rear traction. -
nay. the wipers are to show that James Kay was flustered?Originally posted by Theatre Of Dreams:ya it does seem like a well crafted spin. haha they just have to make evo seem the winner cos she's the protagonist. hey the wipes are on to signal defeat as part of tradition?
the point of the chase is to show that the evo CAN keep up with the Lambo and honestly, looking at the way it corners, if they wanted a proper race, it could have overtaken. Its just that the producers aren't going to risk damage to both cars in a real overtaking attempt. Of course, that said, the TG track is quite a tight one. If they were racing at, say, Monza, perhaps other great racing tracks of Europe, which are more flowing and less mickey mouse, I'd say the Lambo should be able to stretch its legs and pull away from the EVO. But not by much.
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i'm a Dodge Viper fan, i think the viper eats them both for breakfast :p
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viper around that test track? uh...... don't think so. Too tight a track. Although I can't say for sure about proper circuits. Afterall, the Viper has dominate the Nurburgring 24hours Enduro for the past few years.Originally posted by SGnewbie:i'm a Dodge Viper fan, i think the viper eats them both for breakfast :p