Old man tryign to play punk
-
Hi all
happy new yr in advance.
Let me relate an accident (should i call it accident?!?!) yesterday along a small street in Jurong east.
I was travelling behind a civic driven by an old man (40s). was not too close or so I tot as theer were so many cars along the road. He braked so suddenly that my car had a "kiss" with his. We got down. There were no damage or visible scratch or damage. I told him it would be good to go to the side.
He got down. Squated down and started to PUSH his bumper in out in out. I asked him what the hell he is doing. He obviously trying to do some damage to his car. He said no and he is merely trying to check if his METAL inside his bumper is damaged. I told him this is ridiculous.
He then began to raise his voice and accused me that I am driving very fast behind him. I asked him FAST??? No vehicle even a ferrari can drive fast at such a crowded road! He raised his voice in front of on lookers that I am pointing fingers at him now.
I told him no and I apologized to him that I banged into him but since there was no damage at all. There is nothing much I should do and even offered and offered to exchange details with him. He shouted and said he wanted to call police. PISSED OFF. He obviously want to get something out from me. NO WAY! I told him alright. Call the police then but I won't wait for police to come because police will not handle it.
He shouted again and started to repeat what he said and POLICE, this time, he added his gesture by pointing fingers at me. I told him this does not warrant such action from him since we are "educated". Damn pissed off this time, used a hard approach.
Apologized again but added, "call the police now but I won;t wait" and i walked towards my car. He just walked off and drove his car away.
Called up insurance. Adv me to report to prevent this guy from meddling his car and claimed from me subsequently and I did so immeidately!
I have to add again that there is no denial that I bang his car but there was no damage and I offered to exchange details but he din wan to accept.
SO BE WARE OF SUCH PEOPLE> DUN GET TAKEN IN BY THEM. -
nxt time keep a cam in yr car or use yr hp cam to take a pic of the other party's car so he wnt b able to tamper w it after he leaves the scene.
-
u shud take a pic of his bumper the moment u get down.....den aso take some pics to show that he meddle wif his bumper....if he claimed from u...can use the pics against him....he'll most likely to get into trouble for makin false reports n false claims
-
got this kind of ppl1 sia... -
agreeed....my fren did just that and as a result the bugger who banged his car and did further damage to it had his license suspended....*piaks skeujin*Originally posted by skeujin:nxt time keep a cam in yr car or use yr hp cam to take a pic of the other party's car so he wnt b able to tamper w it after he leaves the scene. -
si tau huay anyhow piak.. u dissapear go whr ah...Originally posted by AE86tofu:agreeed....my fren did just that and as a result the bugger who banged his car and did further damage to it had his license suspended....*piaks skeujin* -
how he know you kissed his bumber?
if he felt the movement in his car, isn't that hard enough to cause some damge to the bumber already? -
-
not really...u got movement when ppl bang u doesnt mean got damage. got this old lady hit my corolla last year...no damage and i really tot the bumper drop...hard enuff to give u shock...but amazingly no damage..Originally posted by digicharat:how he know you kissed his bumber?
if he felt the movement in his car, isn't that hard enough to cause some damge to the bumber already? -
This sounds like a deja vu to me. A good lady friend just called me with a similar story. Best of all, she did not even knocked him but he accused her of doing so. So much so dat next day, he called her and wanna extort her for loss of use of car, bumper change and knocking. I was like WTF? Advised her to ask him claim insurance if he has balls.
Anyway, what car is it? Suspect there is a syndicate going around now. Everyone, please be careful!Originally posted by choppers:Hi all
happy new yr in advance.
Let me relate an accident (should i call it accident?!?!) yesterday along a small street in Jurong east.
I was travelling behind a civic driven by an old man (40s). was not too close or so I tot as theer were so many cars along the road. He braked so suddenly that my car had a "kiss" with his. We got down. There were no damage or visible scratch or damage. I told him it would be good to go to the side.
He got down. Squated down and started to PUSH his bumper in out in out. I asked him what the hell he is doing. He obviously trying to do some damage to his car. He said no and he is merely trying to check if his METAL inside his bumper is damaged. I told him this is ridiculous.
He then began to raise his voice and accused me that I am driving very fast behind him. I asked him FAST??? No vehicle even a ferrari can drive fast at such a crowded road! He raised his voice in front of on lookers that I am pointing fingers at him now.
I told him no and I apologized to him that I banged into him but since there was no damage at all. There is nothing much I should do and even offered and offered to exchange details with him. He shouted and said he wanted to call police. PISSED OFF. He obviously want to get something out from me. NO WAY! I told him alright. Call the police then but I won't wait for police to come because police will not handle it.
He shouted again and started to repeat what he said and POLICE, this time, he added his gesture by pointing fingers at me. I told him this does not warrant such action from him since we are "educated". Damn pissed off this time, used a hard approach.
Apologized again but added, "call the police now but I won;t wait" and i walked towards my car. He just walked off and drove his car away.
Called up insurance. Adv me to report to prevent this guy from meddling his car and claimed from me subsequently and I did so immeidately!
I have to add again that there is no denial that I bang his car but there was no damage and I offered to exchange details but he din wan to accept.
SO BE WARE OF SUCH PEOPLE> DUN GET TAKEN IN BY THEM. -
If i were you he keep knocking, i will tell him to move aside and i will ram his back again lor .. make sure is a total loss for him lor ... knn if he make big fass i will do it ...
*imagine wad a Ssangyong Musso Sports can do to it ... -
To bad just your luck, as long as you kiss his backside, you are sleeping or really too close, no excuse for especially both of you are at a junction. Still your fault, face it.
As for the damage, there can be interdamage which cannot be seen from surface. I been bang by some one from behind before, outside seem ok , but inside is totally screwed. I send to IDA , the folks advice is just send the car for verification. Here is what the IDA person told me - the problem is you can take all the photo you want and it will be useless, as it show only the surface, one way to be sure, and fair to both parties, just send down the car to IDA for inspection the same day. They will do a fair check, which check for internal damages. -
In army wad....Originally posted by skeujin:si tau huay anyhow piak.. u dissapear go whr ah... -
hello all
so far din hear anything yet. When I called my AXA insurance, they were quite helpful when I said I got no time to make a report. They iniated that they will send a letter to me and ask me to fill in the details whether anot the old man will file a cliam against me to prevent that gu from meddling his car. Best is that if the man din file the claim then it will not affect my NCD but if that guy claim will depends on outcome. -
got once i was rushing to fathers' day lunch in town.
drove a bit faster den saw jam at AYE entering CTE that slip road.
jammed brake till super slow, but apparently not slow enuff, kiss the front car bumper. there was no damage or dents or anything. so we juz exchange particulars and tot that's the end of the issue.
who knows the gal go claim my dad insurance (car under his name)
claim about 2K+. she claimed that her bumper got some damage, spoil her reverse sensor. lights not working and all. super angry, cause only kiss her bumper a bit. beware of such cunning ppl. -
Firstly, you have to keep a safe distance from the car in front. Once you bang someone's backside, you are almost always in the wrong. Even if the guy cut your lane dangerously, its hard to prove tat. (I think in this case better accelerate and let him whack your side, easier to prove its his fault...haha)
Also, no external damage does not mean the chassis has no damage.. it can happen.. reverse sensor spoilt is a possibility also, so not necessarily they are cheating.
Also, the claim amount is not set by the driver, the workshop (even though nowadays they are 'authorised') like to claim high price, otherwise its the cost of original parts is ridiculously high, so the claims are always ballooned even for small items. Not really the driver's fault.
Before accusing the fella you banged into, pls reflect on your own driving style and put yourself in other people's shoes. If someone banged your back, and it even inconvenienced you a little, you are sure to be a little pissed. If you were banged, and your bumper even a slight hairline crack or reverse sensor sounds different, is it fair to you? Would you go out and get a cheap taiwan bumper and cheapo aftermarket sensor? Or would you rather get original parts to get your car back in original shape (which it was b4 some idiot banged u from behind?)
It's true some people like to take the opportunity to makan you, that's why you should have a camera/camera phone ready to take shots of the scene.
Hopefully with more 'authorised' workshops around and IDAC, it will be harder for cheats to fake claims. -
*sigh* Soon we will all have to install video cameras in our cars ala Cops.
-
You say it yourself, you are rushing and driving fast till have to jam brake !!! and still you hit other people car !!!Originally posted by Devvic:got once i was rushing to fathers' day lunch in town.
drove a bit faster den saw jam at AYE entering CTE that slip road.
jammed brake till super slow, but apparently not slow enuff, kiss the front car bumper. there was no damage or dents or anything. so we juz exchange particulars and tot that's the end of the issue.
who knows the gal go claim my dad insurance (car under his name)
claim about 2K+. she claimed that her bumper got some damage, spoil her reverse sensor. lights not working and all. super angry, cause only kiss her bumper a bit. beware of such cunning ppl.
You got father day, your day is spoilted , what about the other party who got bang by you ?
See surface cannot tell the damage, so what there is sure to be some dents, scratches and other damages, who are you trying to kid !!! With now most insurance require IDAC inspection before claims, the other party also have to send to authorized workshops what repair according to the IDAC report. You bang into the bumper, of course the bumper must change and reverse sensor spolit. Replacing bumper, reverse sensor , add spraying of other affected parts already cost almost 2k !!! Leave the car in the workshop to wait for bumpers and repair take one or 2 days, your fault , so it is fair the other party include rental car for alternative transport ( remember they did not ask you to bang them one , u ownself insist to bang them ). Then people also have to waste time to fill in reports and send to workshop -say take it 1/2 day of work, you paying for the other poor party 1/2 of wasted time ???
I just cannot find it how can people be "cunning" !!! when they did not ask you to bang into them in the first place, and it is you who chose to bang into them.
Think instead sometime, some people just refuse to blame themselves for being "stupid" of banging into others , and would rather think of the other party as "cunning" instead. -
You can forget about taking any shots. Have check with IDAC guys, you can take all the shots you wanted, but it is invalid as they only show surface, not internal. That is why you have to IDAC to do internal verification for you.Originally posted by CryoGenic:It's true some people like to take the opportunity to makan you, that's why you should have a camera/camera phone ready to take shots of the scene. -
At least it prevents the guy from reversing into a lamp post later and claiming extra. Of coz internal one cant be taken wif pics, but it ensures he cant do anymore damage to the exterior as well.Originally posted by storywolf:You can forget about taking any shots. Have check with IDAC guys, you can take all the shots you wanted, but it is invalid as they only show surface, not internal. That is why you have to IDAC to do internal verification for you. -
Originally posted by Devvic:got once i was rushing to fathers' day lunch in town.
drove a bit faster den saw jam at AYE entering CTE that slip road.
jammed brake till super slow, but apparently not slow enuff, kiss the front car bumper. there was no damage or dents or anything. so we juz exchange particulars and tot that's the end of the issue.
who knows the gal go claim my dad insurance (car under his name)
claim about 2K+. she claimed that her bumper got some damage, spoil her reverse sensor. lights not working and all. super angry, cause only kiss her bumper a bit. beware of such cunning ppl. This is too much... You speed and hit someone from behind then get angry cause you have to pay for their damage. -
Do you think the folks at the IDAC cannot tell a damage from a reverse into lamp post. That what they are for, as an independent party to see that no tricks is done. A self inflicted damage all can be tell.Originally posted by CryoGenic:At least it prevents the guy from reversing into a lamp post later and claiming extra. Of coz internal one cant be taken wif pics, but it ensures he cant do anymore damage to the exterior as well.