Anyone tried to Nitrogen gas for tyres?
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Has any1 here tried to put nitrogen gas in your tyres?? Saw an advert, and said its supposed to be safer (lower risk of tyre explosion), reduce noice and improve FC among others.
So is all that true? Any points to note before going for it then?
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1) it's not cheap.
2) it's not easy to pump -
is nitrogen denser than air?Originally posted by sunnygal:Has any1 here tried to put nitrogen gas in your tyres?? Saw an advert, and said its supposed to be safer (lower risk of tyre explosion), reduce noice and improve FC among others.
So is all that true? Any points to note before going for it then? -
u driving monster truck arh?Originally posted by sunnygal:Has any1 here tried to put nitrogen gas in your tyres?? Saw an advert, and said its supposed to be safer (lower risk of tyre explosion), reduce noice and improve FC among others.
So is all that true? Any points to note before going for it then? -
i put nitrogen in balloon b4
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it ain't aircraft tyres.
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did it float?Originally posted by bratpig:i put nitrogen in balloon b4 -
Juz a thought, when was the last time u saw ur tyre explode?Originally posted by sunnygal:Has any1 here tried to put nitrogen gas in your tyres?? Saw an advert, and said its supposed to be safer (lower risk of tyre explosion), reduce noice and improve FC among others.
So is all that true? Any points to note before going for it then?
If that advert tells u this kind of claim, u can start ignoring the site liao. -
nitrogen is onli used for big assed vehicles...like monster dump trucks...airplanes...monster trucks..
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Nitrogen is slightly less dense than air.Originally posted by TwinTurbo_Supra:is nitrogen denser than air?
I don't know about nitrogen. But filling cryogenic nitrogen when I was doing lab work sure as hell freaked me. -
does it really matter?
I mean, air is already 75% nitrogen, and tyres dun really need pure nitrogen, but u can do so if u want i guess... -
u can forget abt this. no use and waste of $$$.Originally posted by sunnygal:Has any1 here tried to put nitrogen gas in your tyres?? Saw an advert, and said its supposed to be safer (lower risk of tyre explosion), reduce noice and improve FC among others.
So is all that true? Any points to note before going for it then?
The air had not direct contact with the floor, so how would it be possible to reduce noise. Its the tires. same for FC. somemore, it is not common. got to pay more. -
that's helium gas bro..Originally posted by bratpig:i put nitrogen in balloon b4
although there's 0.1% composition of nitrogen in it.. -
sunnygal, it will definitely decrease ur FC but not by alot.
i suggest that if u want better FC, have slightly bloated tyres by pumping more air into it. this makes the tyres having less contact on the ground. which means it has less friction and thus less energy required to overcome the friction. its also cheaper this way.
however, if u do this, drive slowly on rainy days or slippery roads. another disadvantage of this is that the centre of tyres will bald faster than the sides. -
try putting carbon dioxide instead by blowing your tyres up..
bcos they are FOS.. -
only helium can float...nitrogen put for fun one...cuz got extraOriginally posted by TwinTurbo_Supra:did it float? -
NEVER do that. u're actually doing something dangerous. youe life is worth more than the savings u get on your FC.Originally posted by zerocool85:sunnygal, it will definitely decrease ur FC but not by alot.
i suggest that if u want better FC, have slightly bloated tyres by pumping more air into it. this makes the tyres having less contact on the ground. which means it has less friction and thus less energy required to overcome the friction. its also cheaper this way.
however, if u do this, drive slowly on rainy days or slippery roads. another disadvantage of this is that the centre of tyres will bald faster than the sides.
oh yea AE86tofu saw a tyre explode once, when he was working as a pump attendant.
anyways, nitrogen in tyres, so far I know that my racing team uses it in some of our vehicles, but not all the time. -
well, i'm using nitrogen for my tyres now after replacing my old ones at stamford. paid 20 bucks i think plus free lifetime top up. it might just be me but i feel that the car is slightly lighter.. haha. the nitrogen's also supposed to not heat up as quickly as air, therefore it reduces the risk of explosion. well, at least tt's wad the guys at stamford told me. so your choice, i guess...
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My workshop filled my tires with nitrogen as part of package during last servicing. Till last month(2.5month since servicing), I notice that the tire pressure still able to maintain with no noticable drop.
This month have not check yet. Hoping that it can maintain till next servicing so I don't need to spend $$ to pump nitrogen from other sources. That is 2.5 month to go 
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P.S. not sure if can just pump normal air if pressure drop. Read conflicting opinions about that. -
actually regarding the fact that nitrogen is an inert gas(i think? it's been 5 years since i took chemistry), the main advantage is not that your tyre will not explode. honestly, that probably hardly happens with normal air. the point is that the amount of air expansion, and resulting increase in air pressure, in the tyre when it warms up due to friction while vehicle is moving, while not sufficient to blow a tyre up, its sufficient to affect the contact patch of the tyre. hence your car's handling and tyre wear might vary according to tyre temps. this is a very impt factor esp when racing applications are considered, which is why racing teams tend to use nitrogen in their tyres.
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yes...N2 is bloody inert..Originally posted by HENG@:actually regarding the fact that nitrogen is an inert gas(i think? it's been 5 years since i took chemistry), the main advantage is not that your tyre will not explode. honestly, that probably hardly happens with normal air. the point is that the amount of air expansion, and resulting increase in air pressure, in the tyre when it warms up due to friction while vehicle is moving, while not sufficient to blow a tyre up, its sufficient to affect the contact patch of the tyre. hence your car's handling and tyre wear might vary according to tyre temps. this is a very impt factor esp when racing applications are considered, which is why racing teams tend to use nitrogen in their tyres.
anyway why the hell they use N2 in huge tyres ? -
ah thanx for confirming that.Originally posted by bismarck:yes...N2 is bloody inert..
anyway why the hell they use N2 in huge tyres ?
hmm... bigger volume of air = increase in the amt of expansion. so the larger the tyre, the more the expansion will be when air is used in them. constant expansion and contraction of the air when heated and cooled results in higher stress and is not good for the tyres. hence N2 is used instead so that the gas expansion is much lower. -
due to a terribly tired brain...i only saw...Originally posted by HENG@:ah thanx for confirming that.
hmm......hence N2 is used instead so that the gas expansion is much lower. -
Originally posted by bismarck:due to a terribly tired brain...i only saw...
the key sentence should be:
larger tyre has larger volume, hence air expansion will be greater, which is a bad thing. -
In layman's terms, N2 lengthens the lifespan of the tyres, right?Originally posted by HENG@:
the key sentence should be:
larger tyre has larger volume, hence air expansion will be greater, which is a bad thing.