Mitsubishi EVO VIII (8)
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Hi...
I was looking at the brochure of the EVO 8 last night, and correct me if I'm wrong, the EVO 8 does not have fog lamps in front (i.e. no fog lamps in the front bumper), is that right?
Joe -
The foglights are in-built into the headlight cluster for the E8.Originally posted by joey2003:Hi...
I was looking at the brochure of the EVO 8 last night, and correct me if I'm wrong, the EVO 8 does not have fog lamps in front (i.e. no fog lamps in the front bumper), is that right?
Joe
(headlight) (highbeam) (foglight) ---> this is the sequence for the left cluster / flip it other way around for the right cluster. -
hmm... sorry guys... didnt mean to hijack this thread... but there's like no other active thread ard here for the evo.. BUT..
couple of questions - -
with the launch of the new evo ix, do u guys think the price for evo viii is gonna go down?
and if evo ix is priced in the region of +/- 150k, wat kinda price i should be looking at if i want a brand new evo viii?
ok pls pardon my nonsensical desires.. haha hope someone can enlighten me on today's market forces~~
once again sorry for the hijacking no offence ya?
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maybe 130k. im not a paragon of reliablity for market prices tho.Originally posted by partan:hmm... sorry guys... didnt mean to hijack this thread... but there's like no other active thread ard here for the evo.. BUT..
couple of questions - -
with the launch of the new evo ix, do u guys think the price for evo viii is gonna go down?
and if evo ix is priced in the region of +/- 150k, wat kinda price i should be looking at if i want a brand new evo viii?
ok pls pardon my nonsensical desires.. haha hope someone can enlighten me on today's market forces~~
once again sorry for the hijacking no offence ya?
cheers~ -
I think C & C dun offer EVO VIII anymore... you might have to check with the SEs there... most probably you'll have to get one from a Parallel Importer..
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Mitsubishi does only a limited run of each model of Evo.
Evo 8s stopped production almost two years ago, so you could not even order one from overseas, even if you wanted to. As you may know, LTA requires a new vehicle to be registered within 2 or 3 months from its production date to be classified as a new vehicle (ie with OMV etc). -
Alot of pple are actually selling off their evo8 now... but the price is not cheap.... The monthly loan is still over a thousand....
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Ermm .. .jest curious, y do u wanna buy a "NEW" old evo VIII when u can get a new EVO IX?Originally posted by partan:hmm... sorry guys... didnt mean to hijack this thread... but there's like no other active thread ard here for the evo.. BUT..
couple of questions - -
with the launch of the new evo ix, do u guys think the price for evo viii is gonna go down?
and if evo ix is priced in the region of +/- 150k, wat kinda price i should be looking at if i want a brand new evo viii?
ok pls pardon my nonsensical desires.. haha hope someone can enlighten me on today's market forces~~
once again sorry for the hijacking no offence ya?
cheers~
yah...wat the others say is true...a lot of current evo owners upgrading to EVO IX.
this will be the last of its production run.......MMC gonna change the EVO X to a new platform ......no more 4G63.......
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easy $$$ difference.Originally posted by godane79:Ermm .. .jest curious, y do u wanna buy a "NEW" old evo VIII when u can get a new EVO IX?
yah...wat the others say is true...a lot of current evo owners upgrading to EVO IX.
this will be the last of its production run.......MMC gonna change the EVO X to a new platform ......no more 4G63....... -
Just curious here...
I heard the the platform for EVO 8 and EVO 9 is the same... but besides the new facelift in the front of the EVO 9 and slight changes in the interior, what else is different? Is the engine on the EVO 9 a new one or it's still the same as EVO 8? -
Chassis is the same
Changes are (haiz here we go again)
Performance:
MIVEC head on 4G63 block
new magnesium titatinium turbo
Changes provide higher torque (up to 20% more) vs Evo VIII MR across wider band of usable rpms.
Handling:
Improved aerodynamics (new front and rear bumper design)
stiffer springs for rear Bilstein
Cosmetics:
dark chrome inserts for front and rear taillights vs matte black for MR vs chrome for VIII
chrome pedals vs rubber pedals for MR and VIII
matte silver insert near the head unit (similar to E
vs textured grey on MR
Evo 7, GTA, 8, MR and 9 are using the same CT9A chassis but there are some differences.
eg the bonnet used in the IX, VIII and MR are lighter than the VII.
the aluminium roof in the MR and IX (sans sunroof) is lighter than steel versions in VIII, VII and IX (with sunroof) -
then if u on the foggies with low beam other pple think u on high beam?Originally posted by dansplace:The foglights are in-built into the headlight cluster for the E8.
(headlight) (highbeam) (foglight) ---> this is the sequence for the left cluster / flip it other way around for the right cluster. -
I use the foglights as how they were meant to be used - when I encounter a fog. And thats usually when I travel up north - and its always good to ensure the slower driver that I am coming his way.Originally posted by ceecookie:then if u on the foggies with low beam other pple think u on high beam? -
no...i wanna know if u use low beam and foggies on a clear night will pple think u on high beam? coz the foggie is together with the headlight so pple may tink it's high beam coz low beam isent realli bright compared with together with the foggiesOriginally posted by dansplace:I use the foglights as how they were meant to be used - when I encounter a fog. And thats usually when I travel up north - and its always good to ensure the slower driver that I am coming his way. -
no they wun....I always drive with my foglights on...as its placed low it wun glare other usersOriginally posted by ceecookie:no...i wanna know if u use low beam and foggies on a clear night will pple think u on high beam? coz the foggie is together with the headlight so pple may tink it's high beam coz low beam isent realli bright compared with together with the foggies -
In Layman words .. they have decided to put MIVEC on to the 4G63 Engine and its gonna work wonders like the Vtec Turbo ... Doggiehowser, correct if wrong ... i am new to this ...Originally posted by joey2003:Just curious here...
I heard the the platform for EVO 8 and EVO 9 is the same... but besides the new facelift in the front of the EVO 9 and slight changes in the interior, what else is different? Is the engine on the EVO 9 a new one or it's still the same as EVO 8? -
Why do you want to use your foglights on a clear night? If you are using your foglights on a clear night, why are you worried that pple are going to think that your highbeam is on?Originally posted by ceecookie:no...i wanna know if u use low beam and foggies on a clear night will pple think u on high beam? coz the foggie is together with the headlight so pple may tink it's high beam coz low beam isent realli bright compared with together with the foggies
Anyway, simple answer: no. The FLs dun shine that high. -
No offense meant but suggest you read the thread from the start...Originally posted by AE86tofu:no they wun....I always drive with my foglights on...as its placed low it wun glare other users
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The MIVEC in the 4G63 seems to be only cam-phasing (similar to Toyota's VVTi) and it is only on the intake side.Originally posted by johncooper:In Layman words .. they have decided to put MIVEC on to the 4G63 Engine and its gonna work wonders like the Vtec Turbo ... Doggiehowser, correct if wrong ... i am new to this ...
VTEC is cam-changing.
Honda's iVTEC and Toyota's VVTL-i has both cam phasing and changing.
Cam phasing isn't as manic as VTEC but the MIVEC-enhanced 4G63 does deliver better low end and mid end torque, traditionally a bane for turbo cars. -
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I read somewhere that the Turbo for the EVO (8 or 9, can't remember) kicks in at 3,500 RPM, is that right?
And also, the EVOs dun come with blow off valves that generate the "piss" sound when you change gears? -
IF im not wrong, you are right...... turbo kicks in at bout 3500rpmOriginally posted by joey2003:Correct me if I'm wrong, but I read somewhere that the Turbo for the EVO (8 or 9, can't remember) kicks in at 3,500 RPM, is that right?
And also, the EVOs dun come with blow off valves that generate the "piss" sound when you change gears?
Seriously...wats with the piss sound? noticed tat even buses or trailers has those?
Ever notice a ferrari or a lambo has those?
BOV is to try to optimise your turbo and prevent it from turbo lag.... -
You get the peak torque at 3500rpm.Originally posted by joey2003:Correct me if I'm wrong, but I read somewhere that the Turbo for the EVO (8 or 9, can't remember) kicks in at 3,500 RPM, is that right?
And also, the EVOs dun come with blow off valves that generate the "piss" sound when you change gears?
But the turbo begins spooling abt 500rpm earlier.
With the 9, you can see some noticeable gains from 2000rpm, and peak torque is at 3000rpm
You need a way to release the boost when you go off throttle. Stock turbocharged cars usually use a recirculating diverter valve. So you don't get a loud pssshhh sound.
Most guys change to a vent-to-air VTA blow off valve (BOV) which gives that sound. It mucks up the MAF sensor on stock Evos tho. And there are no gains... unlike what the other guy says.. it does not reduce turbo lag. -
well or u can also increase the turbo bar to like 2.3 or so....but be warned, too high can blow the engine...Originally posted by DoggieHowser:You get the peak torque at 3500rpm.
But the turbo begins spooling abt 500rpm earlier.
With the 9, you can see some noticeable gains from 2000rpm, and peak torque is at 3000rpm
You need a way to release the boost when you go off throttle. Stock turbocharged cars usually use a recirculating diverter valve. So you don't get a loud pssshhh sound.
Most guys change to a vent-to-air VTA blow off valve (BOV) which gives that sound. It mucks up the MAF sensor on stock Evos tho. And there are no gains... unlike what the other guy says.. it does not reduce turbo lag.
my uncle blown his Version 2 WRX's engine thrice when he raised the turbo bar too high......... -
HolleeemuddderrrrofffOriginally posted by ceecookie:well or u can also increase the turbo bar to like 2.3 or so....but be warned, too high can blow the engine...
my uncle blown his Version 2 WRX's engine thrice when he raised the turbo bar too high.........
Want to mod oso must be smart about it.
Firstly, do you realize what kinds of stress you engine block has to endure to get a 2 bar boost!?? You would need to strengthen the whole block before you subject it to this kinds of abuse.
Secondly, most turbines have an ideal operating range. For a stock turbo, it is pointless to stress it to boost to 2 bar, because all you are doing is just compressing hotter and hotter air, not at all efficient at all (even without factoring the stress in the engine).
Haiz... sometimes I think people take modding lessons from shows like Legend of Speed, and wonder why things go wrong. -
funny, i tot it does? when the excess pressure inside the turbine is released, it is effectively prevented from counteracting the direction of spool rite? this means the effect on the inertia of the spooling is reduced, or minimized at least. or is the function of the BOV aimed solely at prolonging the longevity of ur turbine?Originally posted by DoggieHowser:And there are no gains... unlike what the other guy says.. it does not reduce turbo lag.
i'm a virtual noob with turbos.