Car MOD

• saberobin

  5 May 05, 13:06

  I am driving the new Integra GSR (not Type R) from Kah Motor.
  
  Can i know abt whats the use of the cold air intake, how much HP it contribute to the car and does it affect the FC?
  
  Whats the diff between the lowering spring and the coilovers, the cost is very different?
  
  Pls advise.....
• saberobin

  5 May 05, 13:13

  i mean i am intending to mod it with the above but dont noe whats the use?
  
• Apollo_sg

  5 May 05, 14:00

  CAI - supposedly a secondary pipe harvesting air fr low level into the air distribution system (normally open pod filter), in order to introduce cooler air in place of warm engine bay air.
  
  idea behind is cold air is more densier hence more air molecules will be combusted.
  
  but it is not as simple as this, you will lack power in low end, ie slow start. and also your car can adapt and more power = more fuel needed. needs to work with a piggyback ECU like SAFC-II, etc. tat is another story.
  
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  lower spring is as the name implied, bring down the suspension level so you get closer to earth. hence less drag from under carriage.
  
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  coilover also as name suggested, is coiling over the existing springs making them stiffer. good for cornering.
  
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  if u noob, best not to touch anything since u r unsure. keep ur $$$ lock up in the bank vault n resist all temptations.
  
  
• ewoodrovers

  5 May 05, 14:00

  Originally posted by saberobin:

  i mean i am intending to mod it with the above but dont noe whats the use?
  

  Try logging on to www.shc-forum.com . You should be able to find your answers there.
  
  Cheers
• geenine

  5 May 05, 22:30

  -http://www.coldairintakeshop.com/
  these are cold air intakes..
  
  some also DIY their own cold air intakes by using flexible pipes 1 end at air filter, linked to their front bumper or somewhere along the font.. sorry if its a really bad description but u can google it too..
  
  -lowering springs are just springs to replace ur stock ones which lowers the car. using them on stock dampers will shorten the life of ur dampers.
  
  -Coilovers refer to what apollo_sg said..
  or for some they refer coilovers to coilover kits which mean the whole suspension setup(damper and springs)
  
  hope it helps!
• tailslide

  6 May 05, 00:54

  Originally posted by Apollo_sg:

  but it is not as simple as this, you will lack power in low end, ie slow start. and also your car can adapt and more power = more fuel needed. needs to work with a piggyback ECU like SAFC-II, etc. tat is another story.
  
  

  not exactly. normally, the difference in a/f caused by fitting a CAI on a NA vehicle will be compensated for by the ecu. unless u are changing major components in ur engine, the stock ecu will be more then enuff 2 handle a CAI.
  
  

  Originally posted by Apollo_sg:

  lower spring is as the name implied, bring down the suspension level so you get closer to earth. hence less drag from under carriage.
  
  

  less drag is only a quarter of the story. by lowering, u lower the position of ur center of gravity and induce more negative camber at the rear end (since integra is using macpherson struts in front, camber is hardly affected). the former gives u better handling, the latter will make ur car tend towards understeering. u also increase ur chances of grinding parts of ur car against humps, ramps and kerbs. both of which are not a desirable effects.
  
  

  Originally posted by Apollo_sg:

  coilover also as name suggested, is coiling over the existing springs making them stiffer. good for cornering.
  
  

  thats not what the term implies. coilovers simply refers to suspension set ups whereby the springs surround the shocks. in effect, even ur stock suspension are considered coilovers. u cannot alter the stiffness of ur existing springs unless u change them altogether to another set with a higher spring rate which also gives u a harsher ride.
  
  

  Originally posted by Apollo_sg:

  if u noob, best not to touch anything since u r unsure. keep ur $$$ lock up in the bank vault n resist all temptations.
  
  

  best advice i've heard so far. IMO, there's not much potential in the GSR engine to mod so u'd be better off doing more research before sinking ur precious money.
• saberobin

  6 May 05, 13:21

  So does it mean that if i just wanna a better look, using a lowering spring is more than enuff?
  
  Cos from what i c the spring is just a bigger coil with few turns. can it support the bumps on the road?
  
• geenine

  6 May 05, 14:03

  But the life span of ur dampers will be shortened..
• saberobin

  6 May 05, 14:52

  I c ...
  But is the spring strong enuff or stiffer to resist bumps?
  Cos the spring recommended by most shops is the TEIN lowering springs...
• A_vErY_pOoR_gUy

  6 May 05, 21:26

  after yr car go over hump. tink the car will go into a harmonic motion....u see other car...move up and down. then that where the dampers come into play. if lowered, the damp will have more stress( but gd enough for stock), thus life shortened
• bo liao

  7 May 05, 11:32

  Originally posted by saberobin:

  I am driving the new Integra GSR (not Type R) from Kah Motor.
  
  Can i know abt whats the use of the cold air intake, how much HP it contribute to the car and does it affect the FC?
  
  Whats the diff between the lowering spring and the coilovers, the cost is very different?
  
  Pls advise.....

  cold air only add abit more nia, mayb 5 HP.The use is to mke better combustion.better combustion means better burning, so u think will affect FC or not lor.
  
  lowering spring is some owners just want looks of vehicle but dun want to throw money to get shocks.the cost is very different.If i free, i later go take pic of my coilovers & show you (together wid my original shocks, lots of diff lor..), provided my head dun keep spinning. still abit fever.
• AE86tofu

  7 May 05, 14:00

  Originally posted by tailslide:

  best advice i've heard so far. IMO, there's not much potential in the GSR engine to mod so u'd be better off doing more research before sinking ur precious money.

  words of wisdom from a fellow integra owner
• tailslide

  7 May 05, 23:28

  Originally posted by bo liao:

  cold air only add abit more nia, mayb 5 HP.The use is to mke better combustion.better combustion means better burning, so u think will affect FC or not lor.
  
  lowering spring is some owners just want looks of vehicle but dun want to throw money to get shocks.the cost is very different.If i free, i later go take pic of my coilovers & show you (together wid my original shocks, lots of diff lor..), provided my head dun keep spinning. still abit fever.

  wah lao, party too much liao izit? head spinning dun use computer lah.........
• tailslide

  7 May 05, 23:32

  Originally posted by AE86tofu:

  words of wisdom from a fellow integra owner

  err, coz i have fallen victim to the pitfalls of experimenting with mods too many times b4 liao. hope others dun follow in my footsteps mah.
• bo liao

  8 May 05, 02:22

  Originally posted by tailslide:

  wah lao, party too much liao izit? head spinning dun use computer lah.........

  no lah..tis few days was at "car room" do my feb accident till 3 wheel tat vehicle, kanna rain alot...sick wor..
• tailslide

  8 May 05, 03:37

  Originally posted by bo liao:

  no lah..tis few days was at "car room" do my feb accident till 3 wheel tat vehicle, kanna rain alot...sick wor..

  so on ah? wanna mod car is like dat one lah i guess so ur rex fixed liao?
• bo liao

  8 May 05, 13:03

  Originally posted by tailslide:

  so on ah? wanna mod car is like dat one lah i guess so ur rex fixed liao?

  not on lah,,bo bian mah...wasted 2 mth instalment lea.. .is fix back..er...also got add in some lah.. cliam abit more mah..even my van also can cover abit..hahaha,rex now is can move on rd liao lor..wait for the bloody body kit damm long.
• tailslide

  9 May 05, 02:02

  Originally posted by bo liao:

  not on lah,,bo bian mah...wasted 2 mth instalment lea.. .is fix back..er...also got add in some lah.. cliam abit more mah..even my van also can cover abit..hahaha,rex now is can move on rd liao lor..wait for the bloody body kit damm long.

  haha, muz be fitting the wide body kit? i ever kena before car stuck in workshop for one month. cannot find parts for my car then
• HENG@

  9 May 05, 02:04

  remove all springs. fit solid metal cylinders. make the car like go kart.
• tailslide

  9 May 05, 02:09

  Originally posted by HENG@:

  remove all springs. fit solid metal cylinders. make the car like go kart.

  metal not safe for road use. use thick rubber sticks better.
• saberobin

  9 May 05, 09:15

  Thx man... U guys have been a great help..
  
• jeje008

  9 May 05, 10:34

  Originally posted by bo liao:

  cold air only add abit more nia, mayb 5 HP.The use is to mke better combustion.better combustion means better burning, so u think will affect FC or not lor.
  
  lowering spring is some owners just want looks of vehicle but dun want to throw money to get shocks.the cost is very different.If i free, i later go take pic of my coilovers & show you (together wid my original shocks, lots of diff lor..), provided my head dun keep spinning. still abit fever.

  Err... I don think CAI can give you 5hp increase ley.. 5 HP is a lot ley..
• saberobin

  9 May 05, 14:14

  What else helps in increasing HP or performance?
  Experts pls advise with estimated cost.
  Beside turbo or supercharger...
• bluesky81

  9 May 05, 15:54

  don void ur warranty. or try z-stab?
• tailslide

  9 May 05, 22:24

  Originally posted by jeje008:

  Err... I don think CAI can give you 5hp increase ley.. 5 HP is a lot ley..

  depends on wat car u drive leh. the effect is bigger for some cars compared to others. i know some brands of CAI for the type-R can give 12 - 15 hps. 5 hps seems relatively achievable on a normal GSR provided u choose carefully.
  
  eh, nowadays reservist camp let ppl surf internet one ah?