Where to get cheap and good performance parts?
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Hi! All can anyone help me to check where to get good and cheap performance parts like monster capsules, volt stabaliser, performance filters,etc.
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ok... but where are the performance parts that you were mentioning you wanted... none of the stuff you mentioned will improve performanceOriginally posted by KCWAltis:Hi! All can anyone help me to check where to get good and cheap performance parts like monster capsules, volt stabaliser, performance filters,etc. 
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Sorry, new around. I read from magazines advertisment that the RMK Voltage Stabaliser lah, Monster capsule lah, KNN filter lah all should improver performance, oh ya! also the E68 lah.....
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hehe dan, be gentle with the noobs man! he's got one of them correct, the air filters anywayOriginally posted by dansplace:ok... but where are the performance parts that you were mentioning you wanted... none of the stuff you mentioned will improve performance 
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i think it's better to look for products that improves engine response rather than performance.... what are the common mods to improve response? i'm talking about how fast the engines revs up to speed and sensitivity to the foot pedal.
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air filter kill pick up speed somehowOriginally posted by tailslide:hehe dan, be gentle with the noobs man! he's got one of them correct, the air filters anyway -
So where to get parts to improve my car performance?
And what to get? i'don't have lots of budget thou.
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Mayb u can try posting what make & model is ur ride, then i believe here will hv kind souls to help u out...Budget also..Originally posted by KCWAltis:So where to get parts to improve my car performance?
And what to get? i'don't have lots of budget thou.
What type of performance u look at? ¼ mile? 0-100km/h?Handling?Traction?Fuel Consumption?Top Speed?Closing the speedo fast?
Got many thing to consider... do car is lik u change this thing but MAY affect other things.... -
These are normally standard pricing.. everywhere should be around the same..Originally posted by KCWAltis:Hi! All can anyone help me to check where to get good and cheap performance parts like monster capsules, volt stabaliser, performance filters,etc.
unless you want to do those "mods".... -
supercharge the bugger.Originally posted by tomsss:i think it's better to look for products that improves engine response rather than performance.... what are the common mods to improve response? i'm talking about how fast the engines revs up to speed and sensitivity to the foot pedal. -
generally yes, but it also depends on what air filter u change to as well as what car u are driving.Originally posted by nick34:air filter kill pick up speed somehow
juz replacing the filter element usually gives an all round improvement in all rpms, whereas short ram, open pods usually suffer the low end loss syndrome due to the reduced intake velocity at low speeds.
likewise if u drive a smaller cc car and u "upgrade" to a free flow air filter, the engine might be "struggling" more at low rpms resulting in the loss of pick up. this problem does not seem apparent in large displacement NA or turbocharged vehicles where the characteristically stronger low end torque is more dominant. -
sadly its and option out for all cars bearing the engine QR25DE as it blew up big time when being tested with an S/C....only turbo kits are available but the reliability is still aOriginally posted by tailslide:supercharge the bugger. as this engine is extremely difficult to S/C or T/C 
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The Theory
The theory here is, as you let more air to the combustion chambers to mix with the fuel, you get more power, but the first point is that under which conditions does the air flow and do performance air filters really provide more air as it has been told?
Aerodynamics, or let?s call it air flow here, is so complicated so you can never be sure that the replacement of your conventional air filter with an open element filter (like K&N, Kingdragon or Green) will provide more air flow to the intake system
In-Box Applications
Let's discuss in-box applications like replacing the stock filter with a inbox K&N first, for those who want to apply that kind of air filter mods. On a test which made with a test air box measuring the flow resistance of air yielded the following results:
(The number 100% states the maximum flow resistance to the air, meaning the air is somehow obstructed maximum by the filter or the air box itself while passing through the combustion chambers. Numbers lower than 100 indicate that air flows more easily relatively to the conditions represented with the number 100. It is natural that the air will flow most easily if you detach the filter and the airbox, thus the lower number is 37.5 meaning the least resistance has exposed to the air.
stock box w/ filter 100 %
stock box w/ K&N 100 %
stock box w/o filter 100 %
modified airbox (trimmed) w/filter 62.5%
modified w/K&N 56 %
individual filters 44 %
manifold only 37.5%
This test has shown that changing the stock filter with an inbox performance filter like K&N is useless unless you make some mods to the airbox, but the most surprising result is that whether it?s an original filter or a performance filter like K&N, if you take one of these filters out and apply the test again with an empty air-box, there is still the same resistance like there is a filter inside. That?s really really hard to believe, but when you remember the test made with manifold only, you see that air still has a resistance of 37.5. So, that?s aerodynamics we talked before which is so hard to understand, and it?s not a big surprise that an airbox causes so much resistance.
It?s clear that changing the stock filter with an in-box performance filter like K&N is useless unless you make some mods to the airbox, and it?s clear that it?s not usual to drive without filter and the box, so instead of modifying the box, why don?t we use an open element cotton filter? We can get a result between 37.5 (the manifold only) and 56 (modified airbox with K&N).
Open Element Performance Air Filters
Normally, the air passing through the intake system is 21% oxygen while nitrous oxide is 33%. We all know that nitrous oxide is a power-boosting, complete and more expensive mod in tuning process, and I hope we all agree on the performance of this mod. Nitro increases the density of the oxygen in the air to 33% from 21%, which is still quite close to the natural density. Do you believe that a cotton performance filter can increase the density of the oxygen? No.. So, the only fact about the open element performance filters is that they only let some more air to pass through, and the most important question is that how much horsepower do we get from them?
Tests on dynamometers show that you will lose horsepower, not gain it if you don?t find a way to duct cool air directly to the cone filter. Unshielded cone filters (K&N or any other) were reported to yield a net loss in horse power. The factory filter pulls cool air from outside the engine compartment, while open cone filters will pull warm air from the area behind the radiator. Warm air is less dense than cold, so this can cost between 6-13 HP. Cone filters like K&N and similars only raise the Hp's by 0-2 Hp's on a normally aspirated engine, however, on turbocharged or supercharged engines, the increase is somewhat higher like 8-10 HP, according to the power and vol. of the engine.
Another issue on performance air filters is that they only affect the top end, meaning close to redline. You can feel a power loss at low revs. And one other is that the cotton filters let in considerably more dirt (300-500% more) than stock. Filter allows more dust and fine dirt particles into the engine, but general consensus is that this should make no difference to engine wear.
Filter Maintenance
To maintain good filtration performance, regular cleaning and application of filter oil is necessary. Otherwise the performance will be worse than the original. The cleaning period depends on driving conditions but a 6 month period is acceptable for average maintenance time. Maintenance exist of two sections: Cleaning and oiling.. To clean the filter, pour some gasoline into something like a large, PVC bottle, and dip the filter into the gasoline for 1-2 hours. Rinse the filter and let it dry. Re-oil the filter by spraying the oil onto the inside surface. That?s all..
Result
To get HP to increase, you need cold air... hot air will decrease HP. So find a way to isolate the filter. Use a special, large entry box that will help suck the cold air from outside the engine compartment, or cut the hood.
Change your driving characteristics. Change gear at slightly higher revs, cause you will get power at high revs especially closer to redline. (I?m sure you also do that in any case, at least for hearing the sound
Clean and re-oil your filter periodically. Even if you don?t clean the filter, just re-oil it so you can be sure that the fine particles or dust can?t pass through the filtering element. -
ayo u go everywhere also the same.must let them chop a few times,make frds buy kopi then got good deals.....
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ayo u go everywhere also the same.must let them chop a few times,make frds buy kopi then got good deals.....
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Thanks Gazelle.
Your advise is definitely informative.
Anybody else got any suggestions for me? BTW I'm driving a 1.8 altis. -
ok lah... anyway, all the manufacturers and distributors have to make a living right? I mean, there is only so many times you can tell these guys that all these gimmicks dun work.... but they still believe in them... anyway, not my money...Originally posted by tailslide:hehe dan, be gentle with the noobs man! he's got one of them correct, the air filters anyway -
these distributors oughtta be dragged out into the streets and ridiculed for misleading the general public into thinking such devices actually work. well, there's only so much we can say ........ thank goodness we wun be the ones left in the dust at the end of the dayOriginally posted by dansplace:ok lah... anyway, all the manufacturers and distributors have to make a living right? I mean, there is only so many times you can tell these guys that all these gimmicks dun work.... but they still believe in them... anyway, not my money... -
Tailslide, to check with you, how about that E68? so much advert.
How about that famous "broquet"? So expensive.... -
If I were you, i would spend on a nice bodykit and some good ICE to enjoy in the car. $$$ better spent this way. If you believe in such "gadgets", manufacturers would have them in their cars already...Originally posted by KCWAltis:Tailslide, to check with you, how about that E68? so much advert.
How about that famous "broquet"? So expensive.... -
I would even go one step further. I wont not even want to spend money on the bodykit. Just enjoy the ride and save the money to retire the loan and hopefully buy a better performance car 2 to 3 years down the road.Originally posted by dansplace:If I were you, i would spend on a nice bodykit and some good ICE to enjoy in the car. $$$ better spent this way. If you believe in such "gadgets", manufacturers would have them in their cars already... -
i think u'll be lucky if u dun lose any hps by installing that.Originally posted by KCWAltis:Tailslide, to check with you, how about that E68? so much advert.
How about that famous "broquet"? So expensive....
broquet may work to a certain extent. but u better have the intention of driving this car for a few years before u can really see any savings from ur investment on this product. -
Broquet works. Don't know about the others.Originally posted by KCWAltis:Tailslide, to check with you, how about that E68? so much advert.
How about that famous "broquet"? So expensive.... -
Broquest works, but by how much? and how much does it cost?Originally posted by seow:Broquet works. Don't know about the others. -
For Broquet price your can check out the website. From $380-$1260 for cars.Originally posted by Gazelle:Broquest works, but by how much? and how much does it cost?
http://www.broquet.com.sg/__48256B8E0014D9E3.nsf/webStdContent/1804BA32FBD0E46448256BAD000D4144
BTW, anyone from tuning workshop or have done any tuning. Can share what is done to improve the car performance?