Altis VS sunny
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which car is faster? -
faster?
if u looking at spd why are u looking at this 2 cars? -
Auto VS Auto? Should be Altis, right?
Anyway, got a copy of "Wheel" or "Torque" or whatever car magzine that have a table of prices of the cars. There should be a column with "0-100" spec. That should tell you more or less which is faster. Since Auto, then driver's interferences should be kept at minimal. -
Because Altis not manual, definitely if sunny manual is faster than altis
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According to the specs in AA magazine, both Sunny (auto) and Altis (auto) have the same 0-100km/h acceleration time of 11.7s.
For Sunny (Manual), it is 10.2s. -
Thats true. No offense to anyone, but how many of us can accelerate using manual as fast as those test drivers?
And in terms of fast-ness, there is always Acceleration vs Max spd.. I think you are talking about acceleration? because in singapore, there is almost no way to reach max speed..
I think the Altis is better. -
Well basically, both cars are equally slow. Period.
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even if one of these cars is faster.. it's still a small insignigficant difference... why bother??
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threadstarter change your question.
"which one slower?" -
Sorry, a bit out of line on my part....
For me, the 0-100 km/hr figures are not that important as I don't go sprint the quarter-mile.
What's more important for me is high-end torque for overtaking on the Malaysian highways (say, 80-120 km/hr).
Thats the complaint I have with most new vehicles these days....they are all with the variable valve timing engines tuned to give low-end torque. But overtaking at highway speeds can be sluggish, which can be dangerous. But thats just me, 'cos I run the Malaysian highways often. -
Hahaha!Originally posted by cornyfish2000:Well basically, both cars are equally slow. Period.
Slow is.. relative. It's fast compared to a bicycle ah.
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i even tried sunny manual from 0 to 100 km/h only 7 secends, from 1st gear to 3rd gear and 4500rpm, already 100km/h, major thing of test pickup speed is changing gear must be as fast as possible and heavy foot.
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It will take a longer while to over take at a mere 120 on the NS. I wonder if anyone may share the Altis' strenth or weakness in this area pls.Originally posted by gentlerock:Sorry, a bit out of line on my part....
For me, the 0-100 km/hr figures are not that important as I don't go sprint the quarter-mile.
What's more important for me is high-end torque for overtaking on the Malaysian highways (say, 80-120 km/hr).
Thats the complaint I have with most new vehicles these days....they are all with the variable valve timing engines tuned to give low-end torque. But overtaking at highway speeds can be sluggish, which can be dangerous. But thats just me, 'cos I run the Malaysian highways often.
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I think you seldom drive manual car, if you switch from manual car (any even taxi) to auto altis, you will find the weakness of altis.Originally posted by teochoo:It will take a longer while to over take at a mere 120 on the NS. I wonder if anyone may share the Altis' strenth or weakness in this area pls. -
Tks. u r right -
The Sunny goes from 0-100 km/hr in 7 secs??Originally posted by PLC guy:i even tried sunny manual from 0 to 100 km/h only 7 secends, from 1st gear to 3rd gear and 4500rpm, already 100km/h, major thing of test pickup speed is changing gear must be as fast as possible and heavy foot.
And in 3rd gear too?
Times must have changed.....when I used to sprint, this is how I did it:
- Handbrake up, engage first year and balance with clutch.
- At the signal "go", release handbrake and accelerate to just above max. torque point (during those times, it was 4000-5000 rpm).
- Quickly switch to second gear and run all the way to 100 km/hr (no time to change to 3rd, or else another 0.5-1.0 secs is lost in the gear change.). -
Hmm.. i think lots of cars will have trouble reaching 100kmh in 2nd gear.Originally posted by gentlerock:The Sunny goes from 0-100 km/hr in 7 secs??
And in 3rd gear too?
Times must have changed.....when I used to sprint, this is how I did it:
- Handbrake up, engage first year and balance with clutch.
- At the signal "go", release handbrake and accelerate to just above max. torque point (during those times, it was 4000-5000 rpm).
- Quickly switch to second gear and run all the way to 100 km/hr (no time to change to 3rd, or else another 0.5-1.0 secs is lost in the gear change.). -
You're right - normal saloons of course cannot lah.Originally posted by cornyfish2000:Hmm.. i think lots of cars will have trouble reaching 100kmh in 2nd gear.
But performance vehicles (or even big saloons like the Honda Accord) all can reach 100 km/hr in 2nd gear lah. These vehicles all have red-lines at very high rpms.
Of course they are also all modified.....can red-line a bit also nevermind one. -
You are right, but i need to correct you lit bit,Originally posted by gentlerock:The Sunny goes from 0-100 km/hr in 7 secs??
And in 3rd gear too?
Times must have changed.....when I used to sprint, this is how I did it:
- Handbrake up, engage first year and balance with clutch.
- At the signal "go", release handbrake and accelerate to just above max. torque point (during those times, it was 4000-5000 rpm).
- Quickly switch to second gear and run all the way to 100 km/hr (no time to change to 3rd, or else another 0.5-1.0 secs is lost in the gear change.).
1st not release handbrake this action,
2nd you must from 1st gear direct shift to 3rd gear, no more 2nd gear, otherwise you will no time change to 3rd gear, the main issue is how heavy your foot in 1st gear, you must hit to 6000+ rpm or 60+km/h, tmie less than 4secs
, otherwise you will lose -
Whoa. Upshift from 1 to 3?.Originally posted by PLC guy:You are right, but i need to correct you lit bit,
1st not release handbrake this action,
2nd you must from 1st gear direct shift to 3rd gear, no more 2nd gear, otherwise you will no time change to 3rd gear, the main issue is how heavy your foot in 1st gear, you must hit to 6000+ rpm or 60+km/h, tmie less than 4secs , otherwise you will lose
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OK OK I believe you......if you take a manual Nissan Sunny and shift from 1st to 3rd gear, the Sunny will do 0-100 in 7 secs.Originally posted by PLC guy:You are right, but i need to correct you lit bit,
1st not release handbrake this action,
2nd you must from 1st gear direct shift to 3rd gear, no more 2nd gear, otherwise you will no time change to 3rd gear, the main issue is how heavy your foot in 1st gear, you must hit to 6000+ rpm or 60+km/h, tmie less than 4secs , otherwise you will lose
Wah, in that case hor....your Sunny almost as fast as this car leh:
NEW ZEALAND WRX TEST (CLICK HERE)
(Read the bottom part of the page - 0-100 km/h in 6.9 secs)
By the way, don't mind let us learn from you a bit leh.....please share the conditions under which you did the 0-100 in 7 secs test? How did you measure the timing? How many people were in the car? Was the aircon on, or windows opened? How full was the tank? -
Hang on.....Originally posted by PLC guy:You are right, but i need to correct you lit bit,
1st not release handbrake this action,
2nd you must from 1st gear direct shift to 3rd gear, no more 2nd gear, otherwise you will no time change to 3rd gear, the main issue is how heavy your foot in 1st gear, you must hit to 6000+ rpm or 60+km/h, tmie less than 4secs , otherwise you will lose
Your Sunny can hit 60 km/hr in 1st gear? And it happens at 6000+ rpm?
Wow....must be modified Sunny hor? Maybe with a STi engine fitted inside. -
Sunny FC much higher den Altis...
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Hahaha.. How can fit Sti engine inside? Hmm.. your car got mod one ah? Er.. Cold air intake, suspension, or pirelli tires or something ah..Originally posted by gentlerock:Hang on.....
Your Sunny can hit 60 km/hr in 1st gear? And it happens at 6000+ rpm?
Wow....must be modified Sunny hor? Maybe with a STi engine fitted inside.
Hey if all Sunny manual can do that, then its really very scarey lor. -
this is confirm a modified one la. But really frankly speaking,sunny is heavy,therefore stabililty is there even u travel at 170,car still don't vibrate.So sunny cars are tough in this point,unless u do alot of modification.Originally posted by gentlerock:Hang on.....
Your Sunny can hit 60 km/hr in 1st gear? And it happens at 6000+ rpm?
Wow....must be modified Sunny hor? Maybe with a STi engine fitted inside.