Manual Cars vs Automatic cars??

• ohcheeyong

  29 Jul 05, 15:58

  Are automatic cars really that better than manual cars????
  I really dun know
  someone pls enlighten me
• FaTe_TwisTer

  29 Jul 05, 16:07

  your personal preference. really.
• HENG@

  29 Jul 05, 16:23

  well, they certainly are better in a traffic jam...
• drumstick

  30 Jul 05, 09:25

  good points about automatic.. u dun have to clutchi in.. during jams... ur leg wun feel tired. pick up constant especially those with single gear auto or tiptronic... manual..if u know how to control it can actually be quite fun rather den juzz placing ur leg on the accelerator ... driving manual is juz like a workout for u.. and @ the same time for manual car its better and easier to control the FC. auto takes more...
• wbucket

  30 Jul 05, 09:46

  I don't know about other cars, but for kelisa, auto transmission only have 4 gear. Manual have 5 gear. More gear (with correctly calculated gear ratio) should be more efficient in builting speed. Also the last gear's ratio can afford to be bigger, compared to lesser gear. Thus at say 100kph, manual's rpm would be around 2800 at the fifth gear, while auto would be over over 3000. And thus the FC is always better for manual cars compared to auto.
  
  Secondly, the more complex the system is (manual, tritonic......) the heavier the car, the more expensive the car, the more maintainene needed.
  
  Of course there is this occasional Jams to consider about, but it isn't that bad. Worst I encounter is stuck 1 hour travelling about 1km road.
• digicharat

  30 Jul 05, 12:39

  manual is safer. cause when you are drunk, you wont even be able to move the car cause it keeps stalling.
  auto is more dangerous. cause when you are drunk, you start engine, floor the accelerator and you will bang into some tree or wall. or worse, people.
• GLX

  30 Jul 05, 19:42

  Maybe also have to consider how hard you want to whack your car.
  Auto gear boxes being more complex, are also more fragile too. No doubt manual gear boxes can up the lorry easily too, but replacing a auto gear box is generally 1 or more times costlier than a manual one.
  
  Manual cars also generally response better to mods, due to less transmission loss, and less complex interfacing.
• AE86tofu

  31 Jul 05, 12:39

  But i dun get it...Y most Big CC cars in Sg have autos only(those above 2.0L)
• ditzy

  31 Jul 05, 12:59

  Originally posted by AE86tofu:

  But i dun get it...Y most Big CC cars in Sg have autos only(those above 2.0L)

  Because they're usually luxury cars, and luxury usually means comfort, and comfort usually means not putting in more effort.
• ditzy

  31 Jul 05, 13:00

  Manual cars have power on demand.
• skywalker73

  31 Jul 05, 16:44

  simple la... if u want to play with cars, get manual... else auto if u just want to get from point A to B.
• tErI-yAkI

  31 Jul 05, 17:36

  Originally posted by digicharat:

  manual is safer. cause when you are drunk, you wont even be able to move the car cause it keeps stalling.
  auto is more dangerous. cause when you are drunk, you start engine, floor the accelerator and you will bang into some tree or wall. or worse, people.

  Haha.. This is interesting.
• wbucket

  31 Jul 05, 23:34

  Originally posted by tErI-yAkI:

  Haha.. This is interesting.

  Actually manual is safer, but not due to that reason. The engine brake is more significant, and there is this thing about reversing ...... not sure about it but many commented ...... but I don't understand cause I never drive auto before.
• ditzy

  31 Jul 05, 23:57

  For an auto car, if you put it in park, it will supposedly not roll backwards, because its locked. Not the brakes.
• AE86tofu

  1 Aug 05, 19:12

  Originally posted by ditzy:

  Because they're usually luxury cars, and luxury usually means comfort, and comfort usually means not putting in more effort.

  thats a Stupid way of thinking man...in germany u have manual Beemers and mercs Vws etc....
• TwinTurbo_Supra

  1 Aug 05, 19:13

  Originally posted by AE86tofu:

  thats a Stupid way of thinking man...in germany u have manual Beemers and mercs Vws etc....

  i think u can get manual beemers locally as well. just a longer waiting list.
• wbucket

  2 Aug 05, 08:40

  Originally posted by AE86tofu:

  thats a Stupid way of thinking man...in germany u have manual Beemers and mercs Vws etc....

  Think it is usually the supply/demand thing. Generally rich Singaporean are lazy! Actually, I think generally Singaporean are getting lazy. Only the few handful of us still enjoy the stick and learn to live with the Jams.
• Yuki85

  3 Aug 05, 19:56

  hey...i have some questions regarding manual cars..i'm currently taking lessons for manual...
  
  when moving off during half clutch (when car starts to move), shld i depress the accelerator first before letting go of the clutch or should i let slowly go of clutch first then depress on accelerator?
  
  i'm not sure wat to do and my instructor keeps scolding me saying that i'm delaying from moving off...
  
  thanks
• lighthand

  3 Aug 05, 20:02

  Originally posted by Yuki85:

  hey...i have some questions regarding manual cars..i'm currently taking lessons for manual...
  
  when moving off during half clutch (when car starts to move), shld i depress the accelerator first before letting go of the clutch or should i let slowly go of clutch first then depress on accelerator?
  
  i'm not sure wat to do and my instructor keeps scolding me saying that i'm delaying from moving off...
  
  thanks

  At 1st gear you should always let go of the clutch slowly and not to throw the clutch. As for the accelerator, once the car starts to move you can slowly depress on it as you let go of the clutch.
• lighthand

  3 Aug 05, 20:05

  Originally posted by Yuki85:

  hey...i have some questions regarding manual cars..i'm currently taking lessons for manual...
  
  when moving off during half clutch (when car starts to move), shld i depress the accelerator first before letting go of the clutch or should i let slowly go of clutch first then depress on accelerator?
  
  i'm not sure wat to do and my instructor keeps scolding me saying that i'm delaying from moving off...
  
  thanks

  
  
  If he scold too much then look at him sweetly and throw the clutch while in first gear (in a safe area), that will give him a jolt
• tailslide

  4 Aug 05, 00:02

  Originally posted by lighthand:

  At 1st gear you should always let go of the clutch slowly and not to throw the clutch. As for the accelerator, once the car starts to move you can slowly depress on it as you let go of the clutch.

  fren, ppl ask u move off release clutch or depress accelerator first u teach her how to stall the engine for wat?
  
  if i recall wat i learnt 10 years ago, correct technique shd be to 1st depress the accelerator to around 3k rpms, release clutch and watch ur rpm drop at biting pt, hold ur clutch and accelerator steady , release handbrakes, if car roll forward then drive off normally, if car roll backwards pull handbrakes and clutch in. (wah can become instructor liaoz)
• wbucket

  4 Aug 05, 08:57

  Originally posted by tailslide:

  fren, ppl ask u move off release clutch or depress accelerator first u teach her how to stall the engine for wat?
  
  if i recall wat i learnt 10 years ago, correct technique shd be to 1st depress the accelerator to around 3k rpms, release clutch and watch ur rpm drop at biting pt, hold ur clutch and accelerator steady , release handbrakes, if car roll forward then drive off normally, if car roll backwards pull handbrakes and clutch in. (wah can become instructor liaoz)

  Ya, actually it is easier to depress accelerator first then engage clutch. However when you are familar with the car, can use the release clutch then depress accelerator thing. Reason, it is damn hard for a new learner/driver to hold that particular half-clutch position so that you can feel the engagment but not too much to stall the engine. For newbie, releasing clutch without gas confirm stall, especially new cars.
  
  I learn mine 4 years ago. The rpm to release clutch had changed to 2k.
• lighthand

  5 Aug 05, 00:02

  Originally posted by tailslide:

  fren, ppl ask u move off release clutch or depress accelerator first u teach her how to stall the engine for wat?
  
  if i recall wat i learnt 10 years ago, correct technique shd be to 1st depress the accelerator to around 3k rpms, release clutch and watch ur rpm drop at biting pt, hold ur clutch and accelerator steady , release handbrakes, if car roll forward then drive off normally, if car roll backwards pull handbrakes and clutch in. (wah can become instructor liaoz)

• nick34

  5 Aug 05, 01:10

  Learners learn to release clutch at 1.5k RPM in school
  Experiance drivers release clutch at 800-1000 rpm
  
  
• dryver

  5 Aug 05, 01:14

  Originally posted by digicharat:

  manual is safer. cause when you are drunk, you wont even be able to move the car cause it keeps stalling.
  auto is more dangerous. cause when you are drunk, you start engine, floor the accelerator and you will bang into some tree or wall. or worse, people.

  only you will stall a car when drunk. nincompoop.