LTA clamping down on Fog Lamps!!
-
Hi brudders just wondering why no one posted this. LTA is clamping down on illegal usage of fog lamps. The sentence carries a fine or a jail term. Heard it over the news on radio today.
So if its not raining and the Indonesian fire is not causing too much haze, better switch it off... -
I was thinking if those cars that come with HID pre-installed, compared to fog lamps, which one is more glaring and dangerous to road users.
-
HIDs / White lights.... so darn bright.....Originally posted by Larry:I was thinking if those cars that come with HID pre-installed, compared to fog lamps, which one is more glaring and dangerous to road users.
sometimes i think... they on the wrong ball
-
A car that come with HID has safety feature that ensure that their light dun project too much light into the other car... Their angle of beam is different from the normal one...
It it those car with come without HID and than they go and install that is cuasing the problem -
Then obviously Lexus RX series fail their safety feature... the vehicle is so tall, but beam still needs to hit far distance (they can't make it too low) so end up in normal saloon eye-level.Originally posted by zheshi:A car that come with HID has safety feature that ensure that their light dun project too much light into the other car... Their angle of beam is different from the normal one...
It it those car with come without HID and than they go and install that is cuasing the problem
Fog lamps mostly point straight or slightly down and are not blinding... why so harsh enforcement....
dunno wat they are thinking man. Some of the older Mit Lancer QX cars also got foggies, next time clear day they on, take a photo and submit to LTA. -
The newer RX have a feature which tilt the headlamps downwards when the car is on a up slope. Actually, the real HID lamps are not so glaring. Its those after market bulbs that are causing the problems. And with those who do not install it properly, it is worst. Which is why we have white lamps that are shining into the car in front.Originally posted by guitarman1:Then obviously Lexus RX series fail their safety feature... the vehicle is so tall, but beam still needs to hit far distance (they can't make it too low) so end up in normal saloon eye-level.
Fog lamps mostly point straight or slightly down and are not blinding... why so harsh enforcement....
dunno wat they are thinking man. Some of the older Mit Lancer QX cars also got foggies, next time clear day they on, take a photo and submit to LTA. -
there's a guy staying in my estate always has his fog and head on. some more it's damn bright HID. think it's PIAA.
-
As usual, the policies and standards by Qualified people with no actual technical knowledge can come up with such magnificent regulations .
-
And I think that they are not smart enough to understand the difference between HID and those fake blue bulbs sold as HID.
-
A friend of mine found this:
LTA Clears the air on proper use of fog lights
If drivers found the issue fuzzy before, the LTA is making it clear now: IT'S NOT UP TO MOTORISTS TO DECIDE WHEN TO TURN ON THEIR FOG LIGHTS.
In fact, since the beginning of this year, enforcement officers from the ROV have given verbal warnings to 120 motorists caught misusing their fog lights, which are the round or square lamps beneath the headlights. Last year, 200 drivers were warned.
It is an offence for motorists to use their fog lights during clear weather conditions, said LTA, and those caught flouting the rule may be fined or jailed.
The penalty for a first time offender is a fine of $1000 or a jail term of three months. Repeat offenders face double the penalty.
Fog lights should be used only during adverse weather conditons that result in seriously-reduced visibility - during a heavy downpour or in thick haze for instance. They are not to be turned on during clear weather or night time driving, said LTA
But motorists 938Live spoke to did not seem to be clear of this. Some bought cars that come with built-in fog lights while others installed the lamps on their own.
Said one driver: "Using the fog lamp is an offence? Luckily, I have never used it! But if it's an offence, why install it in the first place?... I personally find fog lights from vehincles behind me veru irritating."
LTA says it will soon launch a public education campaign on the proper use of fog lights. -
fog lights you mean high beam right? i have a cr-v and there are lignts on the bottom below the headlights is that ok for it to be on?
-
fog lights are those below the headlightsOriginally posted by SEI:fog lights you mean high beam right? i have a cr-v and there are lignts on the bottom below the headlights is that ok for it to be on? -
thats retarded the fog lights dont do anything anyway it dont bother other people
-
I find it hilarious that fog lamps, usually installed at the lowest end of the car, should bother people so much.LTA should do driver education on high-beaming and headlight ride height instead..wanna bet if asked, they will pull out some arsed "figures" that show why fog lamps cause accidents.Originally posted by Larry:A friend of mine found this:
LTA Clears the air on proper use of fog lights
If drivers found the issue fuzzy before, the LTA is making it clear now: IT'S NOT UP TO MOTORISTS TO DECIDE WHEN TO TURN ON THEIR FOG LIGHTS.
In fact, since the beginning of this year, enforcement officers from the ROV have given verbal warnings to 120 motorists caught misusing their fog lights, which are the round or square lamps beneath the headlights. Last year, 200 drivers were warned.
It is an offence for motorists to use their fog lights during clear weather conditions, said LTA, and those caught flouting the rule may be fined or jailed.
The penalty for a first time offender is a fine of $1000 or a jail term of three months. Repeat offenders face double the penalty.
Fog lights should be used only during adverse weather conditons that result in seriously-reduced visibility - during a heavy downpour or in thick haze for instance. They are not to be turned on during clear weather or night time driving, said LTA
But motorists 938Live spoke to did not seem to be clear of this. Some bought cars that come with built-in fog lights while others installed the lamps on their own.
Said one driver: "Using the fog lamp is an offence? Luckily, I have never used it! But if it's an offence, why install it in the first place?... I personally find fog lights from vehincles behind me veru irritating."
LTA says it will soon launch a public education campaign on the proper use of fog lights. -
adverse weather conditions oso can be subjective.. a unlit street can be hazardous without fogs too
makes sense dat ppl shd mention fogs r already very low n prob would not affect cars in front. + fogs r definitely less glaring den some xenon lamps or HID.. -
TP seems to be always getting their focus wrong wrong wrong
-
In the first place, how glaring are factory fitted fog lights? Its those after market ones that are glaring. Try driving with only fog lights on, does the road get illuminated? the answer is NO!Originally posted by zgim80:adverse weather conditions oso can be subjective.. a unlit street can be hazardous without fogs too
makes sense dat ppl shd mention fogs r already very low n prob would not affect cars in front. + fogs r definitely less glaring den some xenon lamps or HID..
Fog lights are fitted at the bottom due to one simple logic, fogs form at a distance away from the road. In an adverse foggy situation, the headlights will be blocked by the fog but fog lights at a lower level gets the light through for oncoming cars to see you. -
fixing HID lamps for car models is illegal here.Originally posted by zheshi:A car that come with HID has safety feature that ensure that their light dun project too much light into the other car... Their angle of beam is different from the normal one...
It it those car with come without HID and than they go and install that is cuasing the problem
but they should band the HID lamps if they can lar. no doubt it looks great but it really blinds us drivers. petitions anyone? -
Front fog lights don't irritate me. Those BMWs or other Continental cars with rear fog lights are one hell of glaring.
-
I hate HID lights shining behind...damn irritating....
-
Fog lights depends on the height of the car. For me, eg. just yesterday when driving near tampines ave 10 which has street lamps on the right side of the road only, a SUV from opposite me using ultra white HID with the blue base + fog lamp whitish with a bit yellowish is damn super bright. As it was drizzling, when the SUV shine from in front of me, it over-powered my car head light beam thus causing the road in my eye view to appear pitch black. In the end made me hit the kerb in the divider.. kNn.. if use white light is ok.. but dun use those with super brightness as it will blind drivers on the oncoming. The one i saw is those of white with blue base, for what i know it is 1 of the brightest type i ever seen. somemore still use fog lamp making my view of the kerb to be pitch black. These is 1 hazard for those idiots who did'nt think of other drivers. LTA should come harder on those idiots who din compliant with the regulations. Another thing, Fog lamp is to be use in hazy or heavy shower whether. In singapore that will be quite hard to get. Even with haze.. dun tell me only 70psi wan to use already... that is stupid. The LTA or TP should come up with a proper guideline on the proper usage and types to be use. Secondly, they should come down harder on those who disregard the rules and regulations.
-
Actually LTA must specify what is FOG light and what is DRIVING light.
FOG light are lights that are built with bulbs specially made to permeate through fog during such conditions. They are usually yellow colour or white of a different light spectrum. They are usually install at the same level as the headlight and are required by law in singapore to be covered when not in use.
DRIVING lights are those installed under headlights and use bulbs of the same spectrum with headlights. They are used to light up the area which is cast by the shadow of the bumper by the headlight. This is used for driving in dark conditions (doesn't happen in singapore except if you are in lim chu kang, etc).
However, because people here modify anyhow, fog light go and install at driving light area or vice versa.
This cause people to get blinded or irritated by the lights. -
if tp said using fog lamps is dangerous,den nxt time i bring my own torchlight n shine it with the other hand on the wheel...see which is dangerous
-
Whether foglights are allowed or not doesn't matter here......what matters is that if there is a new law so serious that it warrants 3 months' jail, then it should be publicised well so that everyone will know. And if there is obvious confusion at ground level, then the guys in the clouds and heavens should make attempts to clear all confusion.
Right now, it seems that some people have heard of it, some people haven't, some people maybe have, others maybe haven't.....we're just depending on hearsay, reporters, etc. I read in some other forums that some even have specially written to LTA to ask for clarifications if its true.
I get utterly frightened by the thought that if I accidentally press the foglight button (its quite near my ignition), I may get to sit inside for 3 months.
By the way, are jail terms commonly implemented for traffic offences?
Actually, after so long driving this thing, I just noticed today that my foglights are as big as headlights in some other cars...
. Die lah, maybe I kenah 6 months instead of 3 lah.....twice the size, twice the price. -
LTA can make sure all manufacturer take out fog light bulb or other if those wanna sell here then no much hussle liao loh. Those still caught in this case will be those illegal fixing the bulb back so fine is definetely loh.
LTA is lazy to do such check then wanna blame motorist. Spore road is bright with all the road lamp and all the while we aint using it so doesnt make much different. Lazy then blame us.
Collect the bulb and sell back to bulb maker or car manufacturer.... and earn some $$$ also.... kekeke