is foglight really illegal in singapore?
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i heard that turning on your foglight is illegal... but i seen many people on their small light together with foglights... so its not so bright.... is it legal that way?
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Having a foglight lamp is not illegal. But having it switch on is illegal in Singapore. There is no grounds to justify why someone will need to on the fog lights when the street light is bright enough for cars not to even on their headlamps.
The reasons cited is that having the fog lamps on will distract other road users. -
how about turning on the small lights on your headlamps together with foglights? saw many people do that.... it looks especially good on bmws because of their rounded headlamps..
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Foglights are the small round yellow lights that you see on Rav4 and Pajeros. They are illegal to be switched on in Singapore. You have to cover them up. The other small lights you see in cars like Sunny, Civic, those are driving lights.
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im not reffering to literally small headlights... but its more of onning your lamps 'half' ... like how u would turn it on before dark.... and together with fog light... is that allowed?
and yeah..i am not dumb..i can differentiate foglights and headlamps... -
Foglights are legal in SG, but must be yellow(?) in front and red at the back if they're aftermarket (dunno about factory-fitted ones)...
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Please leh, you know what is driving lights and what is foglights not?Originally posted by t3r:im not reffering to literally small headlights... but its more of onning your lamps 'half' ... like how u would turn it on before dark.... and together with fog light... is that allowed?
and yeah..i am not dumb..i can differentiate foglights and headlamps...
I'm talking about driving lights. When you turn low beam, some cars on their low headlights and driving lights. Headlamps and driving lights are different. If you never read carefully dont anyhow talk cok. No one say u were dumb. -
I get what you mean. You are talking about those that have 2 smaller lights outer than the headlamps that is located lower to the bottom of the front bumper. That is usually the position of the spot light, but have you notice that when they "on" all the 4 lights (like rectangle position), you will notice the bottom 2 are just as bright as the top 2. So are they really spot lights?Originally posted by t3r:im not reffering to literally small headlights... but its more of onning your lamps 'half' ... like how u would turn it on before dark.... and together with fog light... is that allowed?
and yeah..i am not dumb..i can differentiate foglights and headlamps... -
LTA clears the air on proper use of fog lights
Friday • October 14, 2005
IF drivers found the issue fuzzy before, the Land Transport Authority (LTA) is making it very clear now: It's not up to motorists to decide when to turn on their fog lights.
In fact, since the beginning of this year, enforcement officers from the Registry of Vehicles have given verbal warnings to 120 motorists caught misusing their fog lights, which are the round or square lamps beneath the headlights. Last year, 200 drivers were warned.
It is an offence for motorists to use their fog lights during clear weather conditions, said LTA, and those caught flouting the rule may be fined or jailed.
The penalty for a first-time offender is a fine of $1,000 or a jail term of three months. Repeat offenders face double the penalty.
Fog lights should be used only during adverse weather conditions that result in seriously-reduced visibility - during a heavy downpour or in thick haze for instance. They are not to be turned on during clear weather or night-time driving, said LTA.
But motorists 938Live spoke to did not seem to be clear on this. Some bought cars that come with built-in fog lights while others installed the lamps on their own.
Said one driver: "Using the fog lamp is an offence? Luckily, I have never used it! But if it's an offence, why install it in the first place? Â… I personally find fog lights from vehicles behind me very irritating."
LTA says it will soon launch a public education campaign on the proper use of fog lights. -
Don't bother to use 'logic' to intepret LTA's rules. If you do that, you might end up getting double summon for failure to turn on headlights and switching on fog lights in clear weather.Originally posted by t3r:i heard that turning on your foglight is illegal... but i seen many people on their small light together with foglights... so its not so bright.... is it legal that way? -
Think you're talking about parking lights. The position between off and full driving lights right? My host father in US told me that it's used for situations where you have to stop on like a highway but you don't want to drain your battery so you leave the parking lights on, they don't suck so much power and this way your car can still be seen by other cars on the highway to prevent high speed accidents.Originally posted by t3r:im not reffering to literally small headlights... but its more of onning your lamps 'half' ... like how u would turn it on before dark.... and together with fog light... is that allowed?
and yeah..i am not dumb..i can differentiate foglights and headlamps...
The only time I've ever used them in Singapore was when I was following a sedan (I drive an SUV) on a road at night and I noticed my headlights were shining right into his rear view, so I turned it down to parking lamps and turned on my factory fitted fog lamps which are not high enough to cause a nuisance. The driver in front noticed this and gave me a friendly wave
I do see some cars with only parking lights on and fog lights on sometimes, my neighbor drives a lowered Mitsubishi Galant and he loves doing it. I'm not sure if it's illegal though. -
eh...... u not talking about me ar???? but i dun on foglight de.....
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Alamak 2 posts up already put newspaper article of LTA clarifying that foglight is illegal in clear weather, then here you still not sure if illegal.Originally posted by PeRsEuS:I do see some cars with only parking lights on and fog lights on sometimes, my neighbor drives a lowered Mitsubishi Galant and he loves doing it. I'm not sure if it's illegal though.
No wonder no matter how much LTA clarify, ppl still not sure....
Whoever happy juz on la, summon pay lor
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Those driver who use fog lamps and some more is switching on to the brightest level is causing a hazard to other road user. Can you just imagine, at night, from the opposite lane towards you, a car especially SUVs with big headlights and some more still on Fog lights fitted with either yellowish lights or HID bulbs type, they can actually blind thedriver of normal saloon car from seeing the kerb on the right clearly. With a higher level of foglamps on suv, it causes glares and distract saloon cars driver from seeing clearly the kerb.
It doesn't matter whether it is legal or illegal. The question is... does the road conditions and visualbility in Singapore requires foglamps? Iwould call those drivers that use foglamps as shoot bird " pak jiao" or inconsiderate idiots who are causing hazards and annoyance to other road user. Even those that cars fitted with HID xeon head lamps... can't they lower the angle of beams to lower. Always see those stupid RX300 idiots headlight so high can practically blind you from the rear mirror. And worst still.. ralliart was supposed to be fitted with tiltable lights ... 1 idiot can still tilt it to the highest level...
I would not call foglamp illegal.. but it is those idiots who misuse it, causing road hazards let it ended up to be illegal. If no one complains... do you think LTA or TP will be so eng to review it and to classified it? They wont 1 lor.. -
Hehe ya la I'm blur la..but to me foglamps are those you sometimes see on the front of real SUVs, those at headlamp levels, not like my tinny ass ones that can't even make a mole recoil.. What does LTA mean by clear weather? Can we use them if it's raining really hard? I've never seen fog in Singapore..Originally posted by guitarman1:Alamak 2 posts up already put newspaper article of LTA clarifying that foglight is illegal in clear weather, then here you still not sure if illegal.
No wonder no matter how much LTA clarify, ppl still not sure....
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Originally posted by drumstick:
Nah, ppl complain about HID also (Esp from those Lexus RX!!) but LTA din do anything about it.
I would not call foglamp illegal.. but it is those idiots who misuse it, causing road hazards let it ended up to be illegal. If no one complains... do you think LTA or TP will be so eng to review it and to classified it? They wont 1 lor..[/b]
So might not be a complaint thing that led them to brand foglight illegal. LTA got lotsa funny rules la, no use thinking how they came about. -
Its not illegal to own foglamps, just illegal to switch them on in the wrong road and weather conditions.
There are guidelines on what type of foglamps u can fix. But as of now, onemotoring.com is down. So I can't put up the details yet. -
Cant be helped ma. Since it's factory fitted. I dont think LTA will want to start ripping the HIDs off every Odyssey and RX. Maybe that's why they ban aftermarket HIDs.Originally posted by guitarman1:Nah, ppl complain about HID also (Esp from those Lexus RX!!) but LTA din do anything about it.
So might not be a complaint thing that led them to brand foglight illegal. LTA got lotsa funny rules la, no use thinking how they came about.
But I do agree the RX one is really high up and can really blind the driver in front. Maybe that's the whole idea? Lol. -
aftermarket HIDs are banned?
then what about say someone driving a rex or evo put HID also cannot? those cars are pretty low eh. -
those are not called fog lamps, those are called spot lamps... these are not allowed in SG and vehicles fitted with it must cover it up... damn, even crash bars are not allowed in SG, SUVs must have spot lamps and crash bar then cool mah...Originally posted by PeRsEuS:Hehe ya la I'm blur la..but to me foglamps are those you sometimes see on the front of real SUVs, those at headlamp levels, not like my tinny ass ones that can't even make a mole recoil.. What does LTA mean by clear weather? Can we use them if it's raining really hard? I've never seen fog in Singapore..
http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publish/onemotoring/en/lta_information_guidelines/modification_guide/modification_not_allowed.html -
There is no kangeroo to prevent crashingOriginally posted by Prestroz:those are not called fog lamps, those are called spot lamps... these are not allowed in SG and vehicles fitted with it must cover it up... damn, even crash bars are not allowed in SG, SUVs must have spot lamps and crash bar then cool mah...
http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publish/onemotoring/en/lta_information_guidelines/modification_guide/modification_not_allowed.html
The crash bar mean even cause serious injuries in the event of an accident. -
I read somewhere that car bumpers and fronts are designed to crumple in the event of serious accidents so that the hard parts don't fly into the driver's body. I was thinking if you slam into a kangaroo at like say 120km/hr..won't the bumper crumple then the crash bar remain intact how?? Will that hunk of metal fly into you?Originally posted by Praetorian111:There is no kangeroo to prevent crashing
The crash bar mean even cause serious injuries in the event of an accident. -
The crash bar supposed to take the impact to save the car chasis. Omg. Its a kangaroo leh! I think you will have more chance of surviving than the kangaroo.. wahahaOriginally posted by PeRsEuS:I read somewhere that car bumpers and fronts are designed to crumple in the event of serious accidents so that the hard parts don't fly into the driver's body. I was thinking if you slam into a kangaroo at like say 120km/hr..won't the bumper crumple then the crash bar remain intact how?? Will that hunk of metal fly into you?