Least safe cars of 2006
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Sometimes we got to be critical on how they come up with such conculsions.
Please remember that Air Bags and especially side air bags are new technologies that came up in the 1970s but only really implemented from early 90s. Side Airbags from late 90s.
So before the 90s, are they trying to say all cars are not safe?
Anyway, whether a car is safe or not i feel is dependant on the person behind the wheel.
A Benz S-class can be a safe car, but on ice its becomes a really hazard to OTHER drivers as it's weight can be a flying missile if they slip on ice.
For their conclusion of cheaper equal to less safe, I seriously think it's a haphazard way of saying things. Yes, they are cheap because they lack the frills like Airbags. But they are saying it is only not safe if it is involved in an accident.
I don't believe a Kia Piccanto will just explode from no where just because it is cheap. Plus, adding airbags is about $3000-4000 extra.
If you drive safe, why would the car be unsafe? -
i think ultimately, we should view a car's safety from a passive safety deviced POV. and that means the protection a car's occupants get in a crash.
And for that, the Euro NCAP ratings i reckon, are still the most telling set of standards for us to rely on. -
im sure we all noe how to drive safe... and are safe on the road.. but all u need is to meet one dangerous driver on the road who is coming straight at u... then ur oni protection is ur reaction in those milliseconds... and the integrity and crashworthiness of ur car that would let u walk away from the wreck.. or have u helped from the wreck by the stretcher..Originally posted by Ponders:Sometimes we got to be critical on how they come up with such conculsions.
Please remember that Air Bags and especially side air bags are new technologies that came up in the 1970s but only really implemented from early 90s. Side Airbags from late 90s.
So before the 90s, are they trying to say all cars are not safe?
Anyway, whether a car is safe or not i feel is dependant on the person behind the wheel.
A Benz S-class can be a safe car, but on ice its becomes a really hazard to OTHER drivers as it's weight can be a flying missile if they slip on ice.
For their conclusion of cheaper equal to less safe, I seriously think it's a haphazard way of saying things. Yes, they are cheap because they lack the frills like Airbags. But they are saying it is only not safe if it is involved in an accident.
I don't believe a Kia Piccanto will just explode from no where just because it is cheap. Plus, adding airbags is about $3000-4000 extra.
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Aiyoh, the results quite subjective one.
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Its ALWAYS the driver and NOT the car.
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sure its always the driver..Originally posted by nullifi3d:Its ALWAYS the driver and NOT the car.
all im trying to say is.. if u get into a situation not of ur own making.. and after that the oni defining factor is the "safeness" of ur car in making sure u r alrite after the accident..
we cannot be naive to keep thinking that we will never get into an accident by being ultra safe with ur driving.. look at it this way.. even ultra sfety driver cannot siam a drunk speedster driving on the wrong side of a narrow road.. -
yes its the driver. but what about other people that smash into your car? for such reasons consumers would want a car that can protect the occupants. Surely the driver cant do everything? it will be inevitable that accidents will happen and it may not be even both driver's fault. due to poor weather or suddenly the tree fell and causing motorists to swerve then causing an accident. If the car cannot protect the occupants, its as good as buying a motorised coffin isn't it?
I for sure would rather buy a vehicle that can offer the occupants good protection because anything can happen and s h i t happens -
nt really true cos there are times where emergency situations come out unexpected and u are caught with yr pants downOriginally posted by Ponders:If you drive safe, why would the car be unsafe? -
Well, while i know you can be a safe driver but you can be unlucky enough to meet up with a reckless guy. That's why we learn how to drive defensively and proactively.
Some car designs have safety features to protect you like as if you are in a solid cage. Despite the best protection, you are still at the mercy of that reckless guy.
While i agree some cars will protect you better than others. but the laws of physics still apply.
I have seen a BMW 330cxi rammed onto a lamppost. the car is sliced into half. and the engine block flew 150m away. all 4 occupants died.
This guy rammed at estimated of 150-180kmh. So even if you think you are properly protected, your recklessness still can't help you. -
mercedes ram MRT. Mercedes barely dented. point madeOriginally posted by Ponders:Well, while i know you can be a safe driver but you can be unlucky enough to meet up with a reckless guy. That's why we learn how to drive defensively and proactively.
Some car designs have safety features to protect you like as if you are in a solid cage. Despite the best protection, you are still at the mercy of that reckless guy.
While i agree some cars will protect you better than others. but the laws of physics still apply.
I have seen a BMW 330cxi rammed onto a lamppost. the car is sliced into half. and the engine block flew 150m away. all 4 occupants died.
This guy rammed at estimated of 150-180kmh. So even if you think you are properly protected, your recklessness still can't help you. -
how come the all-so-familiar-rolla is on the least safe?
NVM i am a safety driver and my rolla is also safe apart from the very bad body roll and the high CG and a seldom alert driver 
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i was a bit surprised by it being on the list really. the G9 is quite safe i must say...Originally posted by johncooper:
how come the all-so-familiar-rolla is on the least safe?
NVM i am a safety driver and my rolla is also safe apart from the very bad body roll and the high CG and a seldom alert driver 
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normalboi, simi tai ji....
i noe my altis unsafe la...
but it is a fact, i'm on stock wheels, very unsafe. profile too high, can feel the "drag" and kantong too soft, when cut corner, can feel the car shift... u shld noe, tt day at marina, i cut corner at high speed, i have to purposely understeer in order to let the car turn in the curve, or not it will sure skid...
tt's y some of my altis frenz, change the springs to harder springs and on day one the car come out of the garage, they immediately change the wheels to 15" or 16" and lower profile tyres... -
i was oso surprised that the altis was in that list..Originally posted by johncooper:
how come the all-so-familiar-rolla is on the least safe?
NVM i am a safety driver and my rolla is also safe apart from the very bad body roll and the high CG and a seldom alert driver
so now u cannot say that u driving safety-rolla liao? can say erm... u the one driving the no-so-safe safety-rolla? -
eh hello! my car oso not exactly sporty leh.. but i was at about the same speed as u! and i took the inner lane leh... and stayed in the lane leh :pOriginally posted by kentheman:normalboi, simi tai ji....
i noe my altis unsafe la...
but it is a fact, i'm on stock wheels, very unsafe. profile too high, can feel the "drag" and kantong too soft, when cut corner, can feel the car shift... u shld noe, tt day at marina, i cut corner at high speed, i have to purposely understeer in order to let the car turn in the curve, or not it will sure skid...
tt's y some of my altis frenz, change the springs to harder springs and on day one the car come out of the garage, they immediately change the wheels to 15" or 16" and lower profile tyres...
actually i was hoping something like understeering happening lah... but it didnt... that shows that the car's limit is a little bit higher than what our balls think.... so far lah.. -
u wouldn't want it to understeer...the feeling is like, balls up ur throatOriginally posted by nOrmalbOi:eh hello! my car oso not exactly sporty leh.. but i was at about the same speed as u! and i took the inner lane leh... and stayed in the lane leh :p
actually i was hoping something like understeering happening lah... but it didnt... that shows that the car's limit is a little bit higher than what our balls think.... so far lah.. -
i noe.. got the balls in my throat feeling b4 liao... but that nite i was trying to provoke it a little bit... see the limits of the car..Originally posted by kentheman:u wouldn't want it to understeer...the feeling is like, balls up ur throat -
that crazy guy got ram onto an MRT meh?Originally posted by HENG@:mercedes ram MRT. Mercedes barely dented. point made
I think he just ram thru the fences right?
because it would be impossible right?
No matter how strong Mercedes is made, the train naturally got more inertia. -
no. the car actually got hit by an MRT. U din read the news ah? Thats exactly my point! the train got more inertia, but the merc hardly damaged. point made againOriginally posted by Ponders:that crazy guy got ram onto an MRT meh?
I think he just ram thru the fences right?
because it would be impossible right?
No matter how strong Mercedes is made, the train naturally got more inertia. -
Kentheman > No problem one lah Understeer then understeer lor , i understeer-ed-ed many time so now i counter this problem with my hand brakes (lucky is still the pull type not the foot brake type)Originally posted by kentheman:u wouldn't want it to understeer...the feeling is like, balls up ur throat
Try this pull in to a 90deg corner steer it on over the tyre limits then apply a bit of throttle on '2' you will feel the car's all 4 wheels on drift
i keep doing that whenever i get a chance to ... so next time you see a safe corolla making hell-of-a-noise , it might be me -
The safest car is still a killing machine in the hands of a maniac driver....
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quote: its the driver not the car
yeah its the driver but hmm even if the driver drives safe, that doesn't mean all the OTHER drivers will drive safe around this safe driver
also lets sae ur vehicle is stationary and thus u are not "driving".
for example you are on a 4 lane road (2 going north 2 going south). u are going north and stop behind another car at the red light of a 4 way traffic junction. in front, on the left and behind u are other cars tat also stop for red light. however on ur right is open except one white line on the road separating u from south-bound cars.
note: you are a safe driver who thinks "doesn't matter if my car is rated the most unsafe as long as i'm a safe driver i'm safe"
since u are at the red light the perpendicular road (east-west) traffic light is green. one westbound car with a drunk driver attempts to turn into this south bound road but loses control of his car and is headed straight for ur car. now lets see.. you're a safe driver. you're going to get a collision from your right. you're not even moving. what are YOU going to do? i dont think there's anything you can do except to depend on your car and whatever the manufacturer stuffed into that "not important" door of yours. so yeah i'd still prefer side air bags.
thats just one of many examples that show that the car itself plays a crucial role in safety and its not JUST the driver. what if a tree falls on ur car when u are at a traffic light? what if some drunk/stupid other car decides to swerve out of his lane and force u to the side? sigh. -
verdict: dun drive a car
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yeah man! mercs structural integrity is so good, ppl nowadays dare do 80 kmh u-turns in them! point made yet againOriginally posted by HENG@:no. the car actually got hit by an MRT. U din read the news ah? Thats exactly my point! the train got more inertia, but the merc hardly damaged. point made again
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