Purchasing of 2nd Hand Car!! Worth it or not?
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Hi everyone,
just wanna find out from all the drivers out there whether buying a second hand car is worth it or not.... i'm a relatively new driver so do reply if anyone have some good suggestions!! Thanx! -
You may be able to find a good buy in the resale car market given the high turnover of new cars in recent years.
If you intend to drive for a short 2-3yrs, resale is more worthwhile provided you buy one that is no older than 3yrs old. Upon resale or scrap 2-3yrs later, you will likely get back more rebate value compared to a new car.
If you want to drive for 5yrs or more, go for new car since COE is at all time lows nowadays which makes depreciation much lower in the longer term on average. -
Thanx for the reply... i was wondering whether a new driver shd be a second hand car to sort of practice our driving skills before getting a brand new car. i was also thinking whether is it cheaper to buy a second hand car?? btw.. i intend to use it for only abt 2-3 yrs..
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Originally posted by kmkm:
Also a newbie here...
If you intend to drive for a short 2-3yrs, resale is more worthwhile provided you buy one that is no older than 3yrs old. Upon resale or scrap 2-3yrs later, you will likely get back more rebate value compared to a new car.
What is the reason why it is recommended to buy a resale car that is more than 3 years old? If someone is offering to sell me his car that is 2 years old, compared to looking for one that that is >3 years old?
Well, another question that I've always been wondering...is it more worth it to buy a 2 year old car (when COE were much much higher), or consider a similar model that is brand new?
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I believe the previous post was saying getting one that's isnt more than 3 years old.Originally posted by canaan:Also a newbie here...
What is the reason why it is recommended to buy a resale car that is more than 3 years old? If someone is offering to sell me his car that is 2 years old, compared to looking for one that that is >3 years old?
Well, another question that I've always been wondering...is it more worth it to buy a 2 year old car (when COE were much much higher), or consider a similar model that is brand new?
Thanks in advance! -
more than 3& half year the car deprecision rate is different formula.Originally posted by canaan:Also a newbie here...
What is the reason why it is recommended to buy a resale car that is more than 3 years old? If someone is offering to sell me his car that is 2 years old, compared to looking for one that that is >3 years old?
Well, another question that I've always been wondering...is it more worth it to buy a 2 year old car (when COE were much much higher), or consider a similar model that is brand new?
Thanks in advance!
if you are new car owner that mean you do not have much discount when you purchase the car insurance,
bigger car purchase amount = more amount for insurance too.
lay man term you do not have discount. with 5 year owner ship of car or more can enjoy 50% for insurance perium provide you do not has any claim, NCD
my view is go small then go big in later stage
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canaan, yes, if you intend to drive for a short 2-3yrs, resale is more worthwhile provided you buy one that is NO older than 3yrs old.
I agree with zaxis... go small then go big in later stage. I drove 3 resale cars before starting to buy new, but in the past COE was at different level. -
Thanks for all the clarification, and for pointing the oversight on my part.
One more thing, possible to share the different formula mentioned by zaxis below?Originally posted by zaxis:
more than 3& half year the car deprecision rate is different formula.
if you are new car owner that mean you do not have much discount when you purchase the car insurance,
bigger car purchase amount = more amount for insurance too.
lay man term you do not have discount. with 5 year owner ship of car or more can enjoy 50% for insurance perium provide you do not has any claim, NCD
my view is go small then go big in later stage
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For a new driver who intends to drive only for 2-3 years, buying a 2nd hand car has 2 advantages:Originally posted by kmkm:canaan, yes, if you intend to drive for a short 2-3yrs, resale is more worthwhile provided you buy one that is NO older than 3yrs old.
I agree with zaxis... go small then go big in later stage. I drove 3 resale cars before starting to buy new, but in the past COE was at different level.
a) Being a relatively young driver, try out with a used car to perfect your driving skill. If touchwood, there are some driving mistakes committed, you won't feel so "heartache". Secondly, you can find out what you like about your preferred car (performance or comfort or reliability or fuel efficient?). This is important so that you put your money on the right type of car you want. Does not make sense to throw in say $70k on a new car to find out that it is too slow (but cosy and comfortable) to your liking.
b) as what kmkm pointed out, a brand new car being sold after 2 - 3 years will suffer a lot of loss. Get the previous owner to absorb the new car loss and take over from him at a good price for the 2nd hand car. You won't lugi so much when the car is sold when it is about 4-5 year old. -
canaan, let me try to answer your question on depreciation formula.
We need to be clear about what depreciation and rebate value means. Depreciation is a calculation to assess the AVERAGE rate of value loss over a specific time. FORMULA is the SAME regardless of time.
Rebate value is the minimum amount to get back upon scraping the car (total of COE and PARF rebates) and this FORMULA WILL VARY AFTER 5 YEARS due to formula changes in the PARF rebate component (check it out at LTA website).
e.g. New car price at 50k, OMV = 15k, COE = 10k
1 yr later, Rebate value = 75% x 110% x.15k (PARF rebate) + 9k (COE rebate) = 21.4k
Value lost = 50k – 21.4k = 28.6k (57% of car price)
Depreciation of car over past 1yr = 28.6k per year
At year 3, Rebate value = 75% x 110% x.15k (PARF rebate) + 7k (COE rebate) = 19.4k
Value lost = 50k – 19.4k = 30.6k (61% of car price)
Depreciation over past 3yrs = 30.6k /3 = 10.2k per year
At year 5, Rebate value = 75% x 110% x.15k (PARF rebate) + 5k (COE rebate) = 17.4k
Value lost = 50k – 17.4k = 32.6k (65% of car price)
Depreciation over past 5yrs = 32.6k /5 = 5.7k per year
At year 7, Rebate value = 65% x 110% x.15k (PARF rebate) + 3k (COE rebate) = 13.7k
(Notice the PARF value rebate formula starts to change after Year 5)
Value lost = 50k – 13.7k = 36.3k (73% of car price)
Depreciation over past 7yrs = 36.3k /7 = 5.2k per year
At year 9, Rebate value = 55% x 110% x.15k (PARF rebate) + 1k (COE rebate) = 10.1k
Value lost = 50k – 10.1k = 39.9k (80% of car price)
Depreciation over past 9yrs = 39.9k /9 = 4.4k per year
1) Notice how depreciation of a new car is very much higher during the initial 3-4 yrs while its rebate value falls at constant rate?
2) Notice how the rebate value starts to fall faster after 5 yrs even though depreciation is getting lower towards the end of its lifespan?
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Hardworking statement. LOLS
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Thanks so much kmkm! Now I get the complete picture! Appreciated your taking time to clarify!Originally posted by kmkm:canaan, let me try to answer your question on depreciation formula.
We need to be clear about what depreciation and rebate value means. Depreciation is a calculation to assess the AVERAGE rate of value loss over a specific time. FORMULA is the SAME regardless of time.
Rebate value is the minimum amount to get back upon scraping the car (total of COE and PARF rebates) and this FORMULA WILL VARY AFTER 5 YEARS due to formula changes in the PARF rebate component (check it out at LTA website).
e.g. New car price at 50k, OMV = 15k, COE = 10k
1 yr later, Rebate value = 75% x 110% x.15k (PARF rebate) + 9k (COE rebate) = 21.4k
Value lost = 50k – 21.4k = 28.6k (57% of car price)
Depreciation of car over past 1yr = 28.6k per year
At year 3, Rebate value = 75% x 110% x.15k (PARF rebate) + 7k (COE rebate) = 19.4k
Value lost = 50k – 19.4k = 30.6k (61% of car price)
Depreciation over past 3yrs = 30.6k /3 = 10.2k per year
At year 5, Rebate value = 75% x 110% x.15k (PARF rebate) + 5k (COE rebate) = 17.4k
Value lost = 50k – 17.4k = 32.6k (65% of car price)
Depreciation over past 5yrs = 32.6k /5 = 5.7k per year
At year 7, Rebate value = 65% x 110% x.15k (PARF rebate) + 3k (COE rebate) = 13.7k
(Notice the PARF value rebate formula starts to change after Year 5)
Value lost = 50k – 13.7k = 36.3k (73% of car price)
Depreciation over past 7yrs = 36.3k /7 = 5.2k per year
At year 9, Rebate value = 55% x 110% x.15k (PARF rebate) + 1k (COE rebate) = 10.1k
Value lost = 50k – 10.1k = 39.9k (80% of car price)
Depreciation over past 9yrs = 39.9k /9 = 4.4k per year
1) Notice how depreciation of a new car is very much higher during the initial 3-4 yrs while its rebate value falls at constant rate?
2) Notice how the rebate value starts to fall faster after 5 yrs even though depreciation is getting lower towards the end of its lifespan? -
i rather get a new ones
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wahh thanks alot kmkm~ i only know abit, didn't know so much~ thanks alot hehe
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Most welcome. Buying car is definitely a value losing venture, so the key is how to minimize loss, which is = what you pay – what you get back.
So knowing how long you intend to keep the car is very important. Compare different scenarios to make a better choice. DonÂ’t just buy because everyone around you tells you so or itÂ’s the in thing.
Of course, this is an evaluation purely from a financial perspective. Guess it may not be of much use if your spouse insists on buying what he or she likes, haha. Good luck!
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Thanks for sharing guys!! so.. if i'm intending to drive for a term of abt 2-3yrs.. it is definitely better to get a 2nd hand car instead of a new one even though the price of brand new cars are cheap... m i right to judge it this way?