Renault Megane 1.6 Sedan VS Opel Astra 1.6
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hi all,
thinking of getting either the Renault Megane 1.6 Sedan or Opel Astra 1.6. Anyone got valuable experiences to share??? -
i thought u considering mz3.. how bout all other options of urs juz squeeze into 1 thread then we can discuss.. swee
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The Opel Astra is nice!
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Go for the astra for driving dynamics and design.Originally posted by J79:hi all,
thinking of getting either the Renault Megane 1.6 Sedan or Opel Astra 1.6. Anyone got valuable experiences to share??? -
initially i wanted mz3 cos pple tell me conti car got high maintenance and not suitable to drive in s'pore. but after test driving the opel astra and renault megane, i think i kinda like opel astra more cos of its sporty look, more power, not many on the road and better fuel consumption (approx 14-15km per litre). of cos the setback of owning this car is that its a conti car and the warranty is only 60,000km or 3 yrs as compared to 100,000km or 3 yrs from renault.Originally posted by n0x:i thought u considering mz3.. how bout all other options of urs juz squeeze into 1 thread then we can discuss.. swee
sigh... such a dilemma. a car for 5 years at least and i dun want to regret after just 1 or 2 years.
btw, if say the car fuel consumption is said to be 14-15km per litre 15in rims. but wat will it be if i fit it with 17 inch sports rims? can advice, n0x? -
haha dun make me machiam like expert lehOriginally posted by J79:initially i wanted mz3 cos pple tell me conti car got high maintenance and not suitable to drive in s'pore. but after test driving the opel astra and renault megane, i think i kinda like opel astra more cos of its sporty look, more power, not many on the road and better fuel consumption (approx 14-15km per litre). of cos the setback of owning this car is that its a conti car and the warranty is only 60,000km or 3 yrs as compared to 100,000km or 3 yrs from renault.
sigh... such a dilemma. a car for 5 years at least and i dun want to regret after just 1 or 2 years.
btw, if say the car fuel consumption is said to be 14-15km per litre 15in rims. but wat will it be if i fit it with 17 inch sports rims? can advice, n0x?
got better pple in this forum...
anyways frm what i know... if u can get a 17' rims tt is approximately the same weight as ur 15' ones.. then ur fuel consumption wun suffer much.. but then again if ur 17' is of the same weight as 15' something has to give and in this case the integrity of the material of the rims aka ur rims is of lower grade alloys or whatever....
and who quote u the 14-15km/l figures?? hahah conti cars are not known for thier fuel efficeincy.. i mean generally tt's the trend.. maybe opel has something up thier sleeves which i din know of.. but the upside of a conti car is its handling and its body is better than jap.. this 1 everybody knows... and renault is also more than 2 yrs old leh.. like mz3 which is one of the minus when u consider mz3 right.. got consider ford focus.. they say handling veh zai...
jap car is known for its reliability.. and being lighter than its conti counterparts it drinks less.. but mz3 fuel consumption quite poor.. and a little underpowered.. mz2 has more bhp.. its true.. this baffles me a lot.. haha
if u got tt bit spare cash to spare i wld reccomend u the 06cvic... in fact almost everyone will unless they are biased towards conti cars... and this i confirm u wun regret after 1-2 yrs... -
06 civic.. from what i heard.. u book now... time frame to collect car is oct to Dec..
sian ah..
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good things are worth the wait hahah... besides i dun really see a serious contender for tt car leh....Originally posted by nOrmalbOi:06 civic.. from what i heard.. u book now... time frame to collect car is oct to Dec..
sian ah.. -
[quote]Originally posted by n0x:
haha dun make me machiam like expert leh got better pple in this forum...
anyways frm what i know... if u can get a 17' rims tt is approximately the same weight as ur 15' ones.. then ur fuel consumption wun suffer much.. but then again if ur 17' is of the same weight as 15' something has to give and in this case the integrity of the material of the rims aka ur rims is of lower grade alloys or whatever....
and who quote u the 14-15km/l figures?? hahah conti cars are not known for thier fuel efficeincy.. i mean generally tt's the trend.. maybe opel has something up thier sleeves which i din know of.. but the upside of a conti car is its handling and its body is better than jap.. this 1 everybody knows... and renault is also more than 2 yrs old leh.. like mz3 which is one of the minus when u consider mz3 right.. got consider ford focus.. they say handling veh zai...
jap car is known for its reliability.. and being lighter than its conti counterparts it drinks less.. but mz3 fuel consumption quite poor.. and a little underpowered.. mz2 has more bhp.. its true.. this baffles me a lot.. haha
if u got tt bit spare cash to spare i wld reccomend u the 06cvic... in fact almost everyone will unless they are biased towards conti cars... and this i confirm u wun regret after 1-2 yrs...[/quote
hi nox,
here's the specs of opel astra 1.6, maybe u can advise me abit. especially the FC. maybe i did the wrong calculations. but the agent did mention something bout the Easytronic MTA transmission, saying that it helps on saving the fuel. http://www.opelcars.com.sg/Astra5Drspecs.htm.
anyway, i've driven mz3, renault megane, opel astra, ford focus, nissian latio. among all, focus very very stable. nice interior. hee... but dun really like the design. i feel astra more powerful but interior abit cannot make it. mz3, as i said, only nice interior, sporty outlook but no power and available island-wide.
anyway, i never like civic ever since young. no offence to civic lovers. ok? i hate civic cos its so beng. although i agree the new civic has a more classy outlook especially the rear. looks something like integra but still abit bias towards civic. haha... forsee civic to be available island-wide soon. can see alot on the road now. -
erm juz 1 word first... dun juz listen to me.. listen to what others have to say first then u decide urself... i am juz stating all these imho.. dun later buy wrong car come and knock my door haha..
erm i saw the astra stats... those shld have is there.. no wow factor or anything... din say anything abt the transmission too... SE says a lot of things la... since u have test driven all the cars u r in more of a position to decide..
if FC is ur top concern.. i suggest not going for conti.... go for altis or vios... new face lifted altis coming.... and must go for manual.... altis no manual though... i know those are common.. but then again.. cars are common and uncommon for a reason what...
at the end of the day its still ur perogative -
hey n0x,Originally posted by n0x:erm juz 1 word first... dun juz listen to me.. listen to what others have to say first then u decide urself... i am juz stating all these imho.. dun later buy wrong car come and knock my door haha..
erm i saw the astra stats... those shld have is there.. no wow factor or anything... din say anything abt the transmission too... SE says a lot of things la... since u have test driven all the cars u r in more of a position to decide..
if FC is ur top concern.. i suggest not going for conti.... go for altis or vios... new face lifted altis coming.... and must go for manual.... altis no manual though... i know those are common.. but then again.. cars are common and uncommon for a reason what...
at the end of the day its still ur perogative
thanks alot for giving me advices. btw, s000ooooo tempted by the astra cos they also offering free $500 shell petrol voucher. heee.... guess i'm still a typical singaporean after all. -
hmmm.. yeah sure no prob... juz follow ur heart bah... u might want to wait a few more days see if got pple say anthing... or go mycarforum.com post there
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ya, ultimately is ur choice. but i hope u go for a longer test drive before making ur decision. e gear shift seems to be quite rough, tends to surge quite a bit. personal opinion la, could differ from person to person. so pls drive it urself n judge ya.. cheerios
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paiseh paiseh.. was talking abt e astraOriginally posted by zgim80:ya, ultimately is ur choice. but i hope u go for a longer test drive before making ur decision. e gear shift seems to be quite rough, tends to surge quite a bit. personal opinion la, could differ from person to person. so pls drive it urself n judge ya.. cheerios -
Juz one point...
I got somewat the same kinda advice on conti and jap cars when I was trying to buy my 1st renault.. As it turns out, the renault has better FC than other similar CC jap cars! Maintainance high? Perhaps u like to consider standard servicing intervial for most conti cars are 20,000km vs jap 5000km (factory standard). Meaning a jap car need as much as 4 times more servicing when compaired to conti cars. (Of coz, most ppl use synthetic oils on their jap cars and try to stretch to 10,000 b4 sending for servicing.)
It is true conti cars has a little more problem than a jap car.. coz conti cars has more gadgets when compaired to jap cars (and more advance too!) The general rule is.. more gadgets.. more point of failure. So u buy a toyota.. there is nothing to breakdown.. coz there are nothing in the car!! 3 speed + overdrive autogearbox? Never heard of such low tech stuff in conti cars since 1990s!!
Safety? I survived without a scratch in a pretty serious accident (26K repair bill in 1995). I think i should not be walking if i was in a similar jap car.
Since my 1st Renault, there has been no turning back.. I juz got my 5th conti car.. and I still love them..
FYI, my car has a 5 cyn 20V engine.. ESP, EDB, ASR, ABS, Keyless entry, GPS, Build-in dual band GSM phone, car can talk to u, 5 speed semi-auto, dual mode steering, electronic dual zone climate control, 6 airbags including 2 dual stage airbags, side and curtain airbags, auto headlights, auto wipers and many more..
Try find a jap car at sub S$90K with all these.. -
Originally posted by n0x:
From what i know, altis fc is slightly better than sunny. Go for honda jazz or honda city idsi if fc is top concern. Vios and altis can't fight with jazz and city in terms of fc.
if FC is ur top concern.. i suggest not going for conti.... go for altis or vios... new face lifted altis coming.... and must go for manual.... altis no manual though... i know those are common.. but then again.. cars are common and uncommon for a reason what... -
civic hybrid anyone? read from sgcarforums that collection is around mid of this yr if u book now. its very chio! a 1.3L car...Originally posted by nOrmalbOi:06 civic.. from what i heard.. u book now... time frame to collect car is oct to Dec..
sian ah.. -
Renault Laguna?Originally posted by siaokao:FYI, my car has a 5 cyn 20V engine.. ESP, EDB, ASR, ABS, Keyless entry, GPS, Build-in dual band GSM phone, car can talk to u, 5 speed semi-auto, dual mode steering, electronic dual zone climate control, 6 airbags including 2 dual stage airbags, side and curtain airbags, auto headlights, auto wipers and many more.. -
i test drove both astra n megane...
my findings:
megane plus > gadgets quite a few, air bags alot, ncap rating better than astra, looks bigger on the outside and if u like a tail/backside, this is the car for u. sports looking with their 17" rims. key ignite (some say its a minus cos if key dun start engine then what happens next?)
minus > drive like a korean make. its not as stable as astra. price and FC??
astra plus > its a driver's dream machine in the c0ckpit. nice interior, compact and handles pretty well with their semi-manual/auto drive train (in fact the SE tells me its like a manual car clutchless > alfa? hmm), gd pickup as well.
minus > rear lamps not as nice. overall look so so compared to megane though its a hatchback. FC n price??
test drive Ford Focus as well...its exceptionally gd on the road. been to their show launch...awesome. very different from the old focus. better interior and all. pls take the ghia (top of the range model) if u can afford it. -
FYI, my car has a 5 cyn 20V engine.. ESP, EDB, ASR, ABS, Keyless entry, GPS, Build-in dual band GSM phone, car can talk to u, 5 speed semi-auto, dual mode steering, electronic dual zone climate control, 6 airbags including 2 dual stage airbags, side and curtain airbags, auto headlights, auto wipers and many more..
Try find a jap car at sub S$90K with all these.. [/b][/quote]
hmmm 5 cylinders sounds chracteristic of volvo engines... is it a volvo.. although price a bit wrong to be a volvo.... anyways i though 4 gear +1 in ??? or izzit 3+1 clarification needed cos i always thought is 4+1 overdrive.... -
Hi buddy. I'm new here but just read about your dilemma. I'm a proud owner of the astra.
Pros & cons? Well, astra gearshift can be jerky if not used to it. I didn't mind cause all my previous rides were manuals. The was a hickup wif the gear once before, but since the new ECU upgrade, its fantastic.
The handling of the astra is great! Handling may not be as good as the Ford Focus, but its very nippy. Don't trust the 13.3km/h. Trust me, its faster than that, especially wif the sports mode.
I'm getting consumptions of abut 14-16km/l, which is good for a conti car. Ma not be of everyone's liking but I love my Astra.
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a few questions if u dun mind..Originally posted by sir2yrv:Hi buddy. I'm new here but just read about your dilemma. I'm a proud owner of the astra.
Pros & cons? Well, astra gearshift can be jerky if not used to it. I didn't mind cause all my previous rides were manuals. The was a hickup wif the gear once before, but since the new ECU upgrade, its fantastic.
The handling of the astra is great! Handling may not be as good as the Ford Focus, but its very nippy. Don't trust the 13.3km/h. Trust me, its faster than that, especially wif the sports mode.
I'm getting consumptions of abut 14-16km/l, which is good for a conti car. Ma not be of everyone's liking but I love my Astra.
Happy buying...
which model u got and how much did u pay for the car?
ECU upgrade is done by agent?
whats this 13.3km/h point to?
how long have u had ur car? frankly... the FC figures are scarcely believable.. too good to be true.. not saying u dunno ur stuff or anything like that... just... unbelievable.. -
Well.. I believe.. it can happen on a conti car. Though I must say he is very light footed.Originally posted by nOrmalbOi:a few questions if u dun mind..
which model u got and how much did u pay for the car?
ECU upgrade is done by agent?
whats this 13.3km/h point to?
how long have u had ur car? frankly... the FC figures are scarcely believable.. too good to be true.. not saying u dunno ur stuff or anything like that... just... unbelievable..
For me.. i heavy right foot.. can do only abt 9Km/L. SEI worse!! wahahaa!!! -
u?Originally posted by siaokao:Well.. I believe.. it can happen on a conti car. Though I must say he is very light footed.
For me.. i heavy right foot.. can do only abt 9Km/L. SEI worse!! wahahaa!!!
ur right foot made of lead leh! -
Hi. Yes, have to agree I'm rather light footed and the upgrade is done by the agent. I paid 70k in Nov last year. I'm a heavy user & has travelled 14000km already. I'm really glad I bought a Conti car & glad that its an Astra. Loves the handling.