sunny vs city vs altis vs lancer vs impresa

• plusnplus

  5 May 06, 10:33

  Hi all,
  i'm thinking want buy 1 of above car.
  Any idea, which 1 is better for long term use (say i want keep this car until 10 years)
  I mean like service, part and labour cost ?
  
• ~WRX sti~

  5 May 06, 10:50

  i will encourage u to go buy a lance or a city... for me i think tt this two car r quite stable... think the maintanence oso reasonable...
• SBS9818A

  5 May 06, 11:08

  Get a Lancer or a City.
• paperx

  5 May 06, 17:19

  there are things to consider..
  
  fuel consumption - sunny,lancer,city,impreza got high fuel consumption but altis is low
  
  speed - of cos lancer ,impreza , city
  
  car space - altis is larger, follow by lancer.. den city... impreza and sunny
  
  design - of cos lancer/impreza is better..
  
  
• plusnplus

  5 May 06, 18:34

  Thanks for any reply
  if say, i prefer manual, coz can save 2k on car price, which one better between city, lancer or impressa.
  Altis have no manual right ?
  about the impresa engine, is that really matter ? i mean for durability long term use.
  
  cheers
• mr sunray

  5 May 06, 21:56

  Originally posted by paperx:
  
  fuel consumption - sunny,lancer,city,impreza got high fuel consumption but altis is low
  
  speed - of cos lancer ,impreza , city
  
  car space - altis is larger, follow by lancer.. den city... impreza and sunny
  
  design - of cos lancer/impreza is better..
  
  

  I beg your pardon?? Sunny and impreza may have a slightly higher FC, lancer is ok but city so far is the best. Altis low FC??? My sunny AT sometimes can get almost the same FC as altis. Can my sunny consider low FC??
  
  Car space is quite subjective depends on individual's height. But altis is only slightly bigger than the rest.
  
  Design wise also very subjective.
• No9

  5 May 06, 22:53

  i cant agree with u more..sunny FC better than city..
  
  tats one of the funniest things i've heard this mth i tink.
  
  n i tink everyone in the forum will agree with mi..
• skthk

  6 May 06, 00:06

  How about Rio, Verna, Aveo ?
• zxc_sing

  6 May 06, 02:17

  Japanese Altis will be better bcos it oil consumption is low, especially now the petrol prices is so expensive, 5 years ago (2000) 1 litre of oil cost about $1.1, 5 years later (2006) 1 litre of oil cost $1.7, i can predict 5 years later (2011) 1 litre of oil will cost you $2.4. very scary right, wait until 2011 to see my prediction come true......unless they come out with a new sort of energy.....cheers
• mr sunray

  6 May 06, 15:41

  Altis FC is low??
  
  If vios FC is low, that may make some sense.
  
  Buy kelisa or picanto, sure can have good FC.
• PLC guy

  7 May 06, 21:57

  Originally posted by plusnplus:

  Thanks for any reply
  if say, i prefer manual, coz can save 2k on car price, which one better between city, lancer or impressa.
  Altis have no manual right ?
  about the impresa engine, is that really matter ? i mean for durability long term use.
  
  cheers

  If manual, you can consider Sunny, pure Jap brand and reliable for 10years, low service and parts cost, good FC(13.5km/L to 14km/L)
• drumstick

  8 May 06, 01:30

  I am driving a lancer MT. The Fc is quite ok. When on super saving mode... it reach 15km/liter. But of coz need to add some minor parts. A better plug and cable, a good filter(I using open pod now, compare to the stock filther the fc is slightly better when u dun rave too much). Tried once on a really full tank pump from jb, last me almost 700 before i go top up ( combination of city and highway drive from F to E).
  
  Power wise, for a 1.6 it is considered quite good in the market. For new cars, I would say TS 1.6 is the competitor.
  
  For space wise, altis would be bigger coz lancer front seat is ok but if the driver has long legs, the rear passenger would feel discomfort.
  
  As for sunny, although the fc is high, at least the body feels tougher than a lancer as in feel more solid.
  
  The fc for TS, I would say its on average but when raving, it is higher than a lancer. lancer when really whacked, fc around 8km/liter but ts is around 6-7km. (when i say whack...i mean really whack hard)
  
  Appearance wise, lancer and TS would be better choice as there is quite alot of room for body kits and design. More choices and it will still look very sporty.
  
  But one bad thing about the new lancer, is the front grill. Instead of the moustache look, it now look so squarish.
  
  Things to know about lancer
  1) The insurance is higher compare to the other cars like sunny,altis.(around 3-5% higher depending)
  
  2) The parts are more expensive.( On average around 20%-50% depending on which parts e.g front bumper $350, altis around $200-250)
  
  3) You would be unlikely to find choices for parts in JB as the people there dun really like to get lancer.The choices are very limited.(very hard to find parts and accessories like e.g strut bar, proton for less den 150ringgit can get, lancer need 285 ringgit)
  
  4) Mantainace if go back to CC, get ready to get your blood suck up.( Imagine 20K servicing+ change pad+change filther = $500)If go outside get, I think can get around 350-400.
• plusnplus

  9 May 06, 16:01

  Thanks for any reply.
  how about when time to buy a car, is now or wait until june (world cup).
  Btw is that true is you buy the off peak car, you big probably get showroom car or car from paralel importer (even you buy from authorized dealer) ?
  
  cheers
• mr sunray

  9 May 06, 17:23

  There's no good or bad time to buy a car.
  
  If you got the $$, anytime is good to buy a car.
  
  You should ask yourself this question and decide for yourself rather than asking strangers here to answer for you.
• YiFengz

  9 May 06, 22:41

  if want good fc and significant power, try vios....
  
  sunny and lancer phasing out soon so its pretty cheap now.
  
  impreza is 4wd which means it'll be more sluggish compared to the other 3 but definately have better handling.
  
  toyota is known for its very good fc but altis design is more for the uncles...
  
  but if u want a fun car to drive, i think 4wd is the way to go.
• drumstick

  9 May 06, 23:16

  There are a few types of car buyers.
  
  1) Those who like the car type
  2) those who think of the specs
  3) those who tink of economical
  
  At the end of the day, it would be up to you to test drive all and choose the one which you feel comfortable with.
  Who knos, maybe you like the FC but u dun like the car.
  you may like the car but hate the Fc.
  
  Juz go and test drive it and choose the one which you feel most comfortable with.
• mr sunray

  10 May 06, 10:43

  Originally posted by YiFengz:
  
  sunny and lancer phasing out soon so its pretty cheap now.
  
  toyota is known for its very good fc but altis design is more for the uncles...
  
  

  Sunny and lancer are the milk cows of TCM and C&C. Don't think they will be phasing out soon. They sell cheap becos they got nothing much to shout about.
  
  Vios may have a good FC but not very good. Altis not known for its "very good" FC. In fact its FC so so only. Please do not mislead people.
  
  Design is very subjective to individuals. You may think its design is uncle or ah pek but others don't.
• tiggersgd

  10 May 06, 11:35

  
  
  all trying to defend their own makes n models.
• YiFengz

  10 May 06, 14:27

  Originally posted by mr sunray:

  Sunny and lancer are the milk cows of TCM and C&C. Don't think they will be phasing out soon. They sell cheap becos they got nothing much to shout about.
  
  Vios may have a good FC but not very good. Altis not known for its "very good" FC. In fact its FC so so only. Please do not mislead people.
  
  Design is very subjective to individuals. You may think its design is uncle or ah pek but others don't.

  well since u keep saying altis does not have very good FC then u should start showing us some statistics to compare the FC between sunny, lancer and altis before u even said its not known for its "very good" FC.
  
  how do u justify vios may have good FC but not very good. Can you define "not very good"?
  
  im giving this as a personal opinion but u say im trying to mislead people. so you giving your opinion is not misleading people?
• mr sunray

  10 May 06, 15:39

  Originally posted by YiFengz:
  well since u keep saying altis does not have very good FC then u should start showing us some statistics to compare the FC between sunny, lancer and altis before u even said its not known for its "very good" FC.
  
  how do u justify vios may have good FC but not very good. Can you define "not very good"?
  
  im giving this as a personal opinion but u say im trying to mislead people. so you giving your opinion is not misleading people?

  Sorry i'm not a statistican. But you can always check on various cars FC at MCF. I'm not against altis or its FC but becos people like you who mentioned toyota has a very good FC, i have to stand up and tell you that not all toyota has a very good FC. It only shows that you're either die hard fan of toyota or you're just plain ignorant.
  
  If you compare FC between vios and sunny, vios and lancer, of course vios wins hands down but if you compare vios with city or vios with jazz, vios is a loser. It depends on which car and model you want to compare with vios.
  
  Yes, you can give your opinion but your opinion is misleading. Please do your homework first before you give your opinion to the newbies.
  
  If my opinion is misleading, anyone is welcome to tell me off. Anyone?
• plusnplus

  10 May 06, 15:59

  Originally posted by mr sunray:

  There's no good or bad time to buy a car.
  
  If you got the $$, anytime is good to buy a car.
  
  You should ask yourself this question and decide for yourself rather than asking strangers here to answer for you.

  I'm not agree with you.
  on last friday, 5 may i go to subaru, honda and renault showroom, the price i got is 55k for impresa manual, 55k for city dsi manual and 65k for megane manual.
  on sat news paper, 6 may, the price for honda city is 49.2k and 62k for megane. i call sales for subaru, the price drop to 53k.
  
  if you rich, sure 2k is not issue, for me 2k is very big amount, that's why i prefer manual to reduce the price.
• T.Ryousuke

  10 May 06, 16:04

  Now I bioing Toyota Wish 1.8XE, the price had also drop too. about 65k.
  Anyone know about this car?
• AE86tofu

  10 May 06, 16:04

  Originally posted by plusnplus:

  I'm not agree with you.
  on last friday, 5 may i go to subaru, honda and renault showroom, the price i got is 55k for impresa manual, 55k for city dsi manual and 65k for megane manual.
  on sat news paper, 6 may, the price for honda city is 49.2k and 62k for megane. i call sales for subaru, the price drop to 53k.
  
  if you rich, sure 2k is not issue, for me 2k is very big amount, that's why i prefer manual to reduce the price.

  not just tt...Manual FC better but with tt AWD i dun think its that good compared to other makes.....I just find tt car underpowered
• mr sunray

  10 May 06, 17:23

  Originally posted by plusnplus:
  if you rich, sure 2k is not issue, for me 2k is very big amount, that's why i prefer manual to reduce the price.

  If 2k is a big amount to you, then sad to say that you're not ready to own a car yet.
  
  Why not get an OPC? May help to lessen your financial load.