Disengaging gear to neutral on a Manual
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Is it really neccessary to depress the clutch? I've tried disengaging to neutral without depressing the clutch and nothing happens, no sound no resistance.
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yes!Originally posted by newcomer:Is it really neccessary to depress the clutch? I've tried disengaging to neutral without depressing the clutch and nothing happens, no sound no resistance.
physically the gear lever appears to be N position but in fact the gear train within is still engage. -
i think is no..
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not true wad....My 7-tonner can just push 2 neutral w/o pressing clutch....but heck its a truck and with a peumatic Gearbox but for cars i dunno and i dun plan 2 try....
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Oh dear, did you sell away the 7-tonner as well, tofu?
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wahahaaa!!!! 7-tonner exhaust tail pipe!!Originally posted by Kr0n:Oh dear, did you sell away the 7-tonner as well, tofu? -
No leh, if engine still engaged then the car will move. But for my case neutral is neutral, car not moving although clutch release.Originally posted by Ah Cek:yes!
physically the gear lever appears to be N position but in fact the gear train within is still engage. -
The answer to this is simple. If you change gear w/o stepping on the clutch, you are "forcing" the transmission shaft to change gear. Either u will hear a horrible sound from your gear box or your car will simply stall.
Therefore, if you change to neutral w/o stepping on the clutch, your transmission shaft will be disconnected from the gears as usual. You wont hear any sound also since you're not forcing a gear change. However, you are still forcing the disengagment of gears. This is bad for the gear box. -
err.. not really damaging yr tx, cause u r disengaging it, not engaging it. u r just unmeshing e gears.Originally posted by freakass:The answer to this is simple. If you change gear w/o stepping on the clutch, you are "forcing" the transmission shaft to change gear. Either u will hear a horrible sound from your gear box or your car will simply stall.
Therefore, if you change to neutral w/o stepping on the clutch, your transmission shaft will be disconnected from the gears as usual. You wont hear any sound also since you're not forcing a gear change. However, you are still forcing the disengagment of gears. This is bad for the gear box. -
its a fact u change either to gear or neutral without engaging the clutch will spoil the gearbox.. it will juz giv a horrible crack sound.. and yr gear will break easily.. for those hu dun believe.. u all can just try.. be sure yr car's gear box will break and yr pocket will be burnt a big hole
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i tried before on my mitsubishi van, nothing happens no crack sound, no bang sound, just like u normal cluth in and push to neutral. and if u wanna try u can do it when u are in high gear, gear 5 dont push so fast. use a bit of force it will slowly drop drop drop and then drop to middle that is neutral gear.
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u think ppl who design the gearbox ask u to depress clutch when u shift out of any gear for fun ah?
U dun like yr gearbox u can go ahead n kill it.
oh wait u're that fella with all those sad social prejudices aren't u? that explains it. -
Actually I dun really know what you are asking??
The normal thing to do is to come to a complete halt then shift the gear to neutral. But I have been driving for 4 years and I always shift the gear to neutral without clutching in when I am near to the red lights and then uses the brake to let the car goes to a halt. If what some says is true by right I should have change my gear box quite often. -
Geez... How come nobody mention synchronisers? Even if you engage gear without clutching in, the most you'll damage are the synchronisers first, NOT the gears.
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That's because you're driving an automatic...Originally posted by Praetorian111:Actually I dun really know what you are asking??
The normal thing to do is to come to a complete halt then shift the gear to neutral. But I have been driving for 4 years and I always shift the gear to neutral without clutching in when I am near to the red lights and then uses the brake to let the car goes to a halt. If what some says is true by right I should have change my gear box quite often.
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the synchros and the dog teeth on the gear selector.. the sound u heard is the dog teeth not meshing properly... u do not damage the gears cos they are in constant mesh with each other......Originally posted by newcomer:Geez... How come nobody mention synchronisers? Even if you engage gear without clutching in, the most you'll damage are the synchronisers first, NOT the gears. -
notice i said "people who design the GEARBOX"Originally posted by newcomer:Geez... How come nobody mention synchronisers? Even if you engage gear without clutching in, the most you'll damage are the synchronisers first, NOT the gears. -
Originally posted by newcomer:That's because you're driving an automatic... I am driving a manual car.
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your car is built to last wad.....old toyotas are like that....Originally posted by Praetorian111:Actually I dun really know what you are asking??
The normal thing to do is to come to a complete halt then shift the gear to neutral. But I have been driving for 4 years and I always shift the gear to neutral without clutching in when I am near to the red lights and then uses the brake to let the car goes to a halt. If what some says is true by right I should have change my gear box quite often. -
i think those don't even dare try to push neutral without cluthing in one should not post any comments that u heard from who and who. We are the one that tried it experience it with real vehicle we just share with u all wat we encounter. And if u didn't do it and we have done it u should hear from our comments.
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well i tried b4... forgot driving whose vehilce liaoz.. somehow forgot to clutch in..(maybe i am lousy or too tired liaoz) then shift to neutral cos braking for corner... no sound.. no nothing.. came out smoothly...Originally posted by PoorTechnician:i think those don't even dare try to push neutral without cluthing in one should not post any comments that u heard from who and who. We are the one that tried it experience it with real vehicle we just share with u all wat we encounter. And if u didn't do it and we have done it u should hear from our comments. -
no no. its ok. just because u dun feel anything or hear anything means nothing is happening.
so power one, ppl here got X-ray eyes. Like I said, the people who design the entire gearbox tell u to clutch in for fun de.
basket in future when i design cars, im going to do it on the condition its not sold in sg. -
heng.. u nv study abt trans?? give a more detailed explanation???Originally posted by HENG@:no no. its ok. just because u dun feel anything or hear anything means nothing is happening.
so power one, ppl here got X-ray eyes. Like I said, the people who design the entire gearbox tell u to clutch in for fun de.
basket in future when i design cars, im going to do it on the condition its not sold in sg. -
i study everything to do with cars. look u can decide not to clutch in when u shift out of a gear, but there is definately going to be wear and tear on gearbox components.Originally posted by n0x:heng.. u nv study abt trans?? give a more detailed explanation???
when u're trying to shift a cog from one cog to another, the idea is that they shouldn't be moving at all, or more pratically, moving at very low speeds. When engineers design something and ask u to operate it in a certain way, its always for a reason. U can choose not to listen to the engineers at your own risk, but I'll point out that the space shuttle Challenger disaster happened because they did not listen to the engineers. -
automatic car how to clutch in??Originally posted by newcomer:That's because you're driving an automatic...