Which is true?
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I had a minor arguement with a friend.
She says that she read a story about a couple who left a baby in the car, left the engine on (with air-con), came back few hours later and the baby died of CO poisoning.
I said it was unusual.
She argued that it is not unusual and someone who sleep in a car over night and left the air-con on will die as the CO will go in through the air-con.
I said that it is not possible as all exhaust will go through the exhaust pipe through the back and escape through the air. The only way they could die is if the car is in a closed space like a gerage or they comitte siudice using the hose in the exhaust technique.
She says that I'm closed minded, clould you believe that.
Anyway, which is true? -
Agreed with the enclosed area reasoning where the CO2 will build up within it, causing CO2 poisoning. But then again, I would not take the risk of leaving engine on even in non-enclosed area, afterall, life is too precious to be gambled away.
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there was a case where a couple died in their car, in a mult-storey carpark. The car was found with the engine dead, but the ignition and air-con on. It was found out that the car had rusted holes in the floorboard.
So even if ya not in an enclosed space, there will still be a chance of CO2 being sucked in fron the exhaust from the back, unless the outside weather is breezy and not blowing from behind to front. The effects is similiar to being in an enclosed space, just takes a longer time along with the right conditions outside. -
cars are no totally sealed...some of the carbon monoxide will leak into the car no matter wat..unless there is strong wind that keep blowing away the exhaust away from the car
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yes yes yes !!!!Originally posted by tofushop193:cars are no totally sealed...some of the carbon monoxide will leak into the car no matter wat..unless there is strong wind that keep blowing away the exhaust away from the car -
You are correct. Period.
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wrong...
is CO
carbon monoxide...CO2 is carbon dioxide -
CO will get into the car if there is no ventilation, however, the CO will not enter the car via the air con otherwise all of us will end up falling asleep when drivingOriginally posted by tofushop193:cars are no totally sealed...some of the carbon monoxide will leak into the car no matter wat..unless there is strong wind that keep blowing away the exhaust away from the car -
ur fren is right.Originally posted by MohamedF:I had a minor arguement with a friend.
She says that she read a story about a couple who left a baby in the car, left the engine on (with air-con), came back few hours later and the baby died of CO poisoning.
I said it was unusual.
She argued that it is not unusual and someone who sleep in a car over night and left the air-con on will die as the CO will go in through the air-con.
I said that it is not possible as all exhaust will go through the exhaust pipe through the back and escape through the air. The only way they could die is if the car is in a closed space like a gerage or they comitte siudice using the hose in the exhaust technique.
She says that I'm closed minded, clould you believe that.
Anyway, which is true? -
yup, your friend is more correct.
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you can die of CO poisoning even without the car being in an enclosed space. Typically the amount of exhaust gases leaking into the passenger cabin is so small to be insignificant, but over a long period of time it can accumulate and become lethal. Considering also that it was a baby left in the car, the baby's tolerance to CO poisoning would be much lower than a healthy adult. Normally people who want to commit suicide use the hose method because it speeds up the process.Originally posted by MohamedF:I had a minor arguement with a friend.
She says that she read a story about a couple who left a baby in the car, left the engine on (with air-con), came back few hours later and the baby died of CO poisoning.
I said it was unusual.
She argued that it is not unusual and someone who sleep in a car over night and left the air-con on will die as the CO will go in through the air-con.
I said that it is not possible as all exhaust will go through the exhaust pipe through the back and escape through the air. The only way they could die is if the car is in a closed space like a gerage or they comitte siudice using the hose in the exhaust technique.
She says that I'm closed minded, clould you believe that.
Anyway, which is true? -
yup, and remember its CO is a no-smell, no-colour gas...so you wouldnt know that your car has chock up alot of CO, you will only feel sleepy, etc...
What more of a baby? who cannot respond by telling anyone? and has no strength to open the door some more...etc etc...
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hmm........ AGREE.... hehe...Originally posted by nightzip:yup, and remember its CO is a no-smell, no-colour gas...so you wouldnt know that your car has chock up alot of CO, you will only feel sleepy, etc...
What more of a baby? who cannot respond by telling anyone? and has no strength to open the door some more...etc etc...