Maxda RX-8! Advice? How is the support? PI or MAZDA Motors?
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Hi there! This is my first posting despite joining this forum for quite some time. I need some advice and help from fellow friends out there.
I am currently interested in the RX-8, however there are some issues in which i would like to address and i hope that existing owners could help contribute?
1. Which dealer should i get it from? Mazda or PI? (I understand that PI has the auto version and not Mazda??) What is the difference in the configuration?
2. The price as listed under various PIs is rather attractive! I wonder how's the service at their authorised workshops? Is it reliable? They even manage to provide 5 years labor free warranty. Is there a recommended PI dealer in which i could be recommended pertaining to the purchase of this specific car?
3. How is the fuel consumption like for the car? (M or AT) i heard that it is extrememly bad. Any other related problems in which i should be aware of?
4. How is the insurance like? Is it considered as a 2 door or a 4 door car? (I am 26 years of age)
5. I heard that the rotary engine is very prone to wear and tear and that i would be expecting to change the car after the early years of ownership. How true is this?
Sorry for the string of queries but i sincerely hope that fellow members could help me out?? Thanks! -
1. i wun even consider the auto if i drive this kinda car.. if u want the convinience of an auto i suggest u consider other options...Originally posted by DiablosX:Hi there! This is my first posting despite joining this forum for quite some time. I need some advice and help from fellow friends out there.
I am currently interested in the RX-8, however there are some issues in which i would like to address and i hope that existing owners could help contribute?
1. Which dealer should i get it from? Mazda or PI? (I understand that PI has the auto version and not Mazda??) What is the difference in the configuration?
2. The price as listed under various PIs is rather attractive! I wonder how's the service at their authorised workshops? Is it reliable? They even manage to provide 5 years labor free warranty. Is there a recommended PI dealer in which i could be recommended pertaining to the purchase of this specific car?
3. How is the fuel consumption like for the car? (M or AT) i heard that it is extrememly bad. Any other related problems in which i should be aware of?
4. How is the insurance like? Is it considered as a 2 door or a 4 door car? (I am 26 years of age)
5. I heard that the rotary engine is very prone to wear and tear and that i would be expecting to change the car after the early years of ownership. How true is this?
Sorry for the string of queries but i sincerely hope that fellow members could help me out?? Thanks!
2. PI always use a lot of gimmicks with a lot of hidden T&C to lure pple.. if MM carries this car i suggest u go to MM for peace of mind..
3.the fuel consumption for a rotary is notoriously bad.. last i heard is 7km/l on the avg...
4. i believe insurance shld be quite low since u are 26.. and i assume u not P plate bah...and most insurance co. see CC of car.. so this one 1300 and then can be considered 4 doors.. some sorta loophole...
5. the old rotary found in the FDs and FCs wears out easily.. but the new one found on the rx-8 is better.. HENG@ got mention b4 but i forgot the explanation liaoz...
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Hi,
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Mazda 3 uses what type of engine? Rotary?
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Thanks for the prompt reply people!!
Actually i have a few list of cars on my mind,
1. IS250
2. BMW 320
3. Mercedes C Class (C180)
4. Mazda RX8
These are not arranged in terms of preference. Just that i was actually targeting the IS250. However, i saw in one of the forums that the finishing this time round is rather dissapointing.
Any ideas or suggestions???? -
no mz3 uses the normal inline 4Originally posted by speedy123:Mazda 3 uses what type of engine? Rotary? -
sounds like u been to mycarforums.. haah cos they have a new thread on is250...Originally posted by DiablosX:Thanks for the prompt reply people!!
Actually i have a few list of cars on my mind,
1. IS250
2. BMW 320
3. Mercedes C Class (C180)
4. Mazda RX8
These are not arranged in terms of preference. Just that i was actually targeting the IS250. However, i saw in one of the forums that the finishing this time round is rather dissapointing.
Any ideas or suggestions????
they say if u wanna get the bmw dun get the entry level tt one.. also dunno why.. say they prefer the sixes... is250 they say cramp at the back.. c class they say now got some sports promotion...
rx-8 u put here machiam the odd one out... -
I think thats right!
I saw this thread on the IS250 and some guy was going around taking pictures of the car, showing us the dissapointing QC lexus is adopting now.
For me, i am a Lexus fan. However, after seeing the pictures..... i am a bit dissapointed. My wife prefers the cars as i had mentioned and personally, i hate big cars. So high end capacity cars of the brands i have mentioned is a big NO NO. (Eg. 520, E Class etc)
She loves the RX 8 and so do I but i did mention to her the HARSH engine of the rotary (in terms of FC) and the probability of introducing problems such as wear and tear in the near future.
Haiz....... really headache. In fact, the Lancer is also part of my choice as it looks "sexy" as what my wife had mentioned.
For me i personally love the IS250 or the 320. Just that my feedback from my friends with regards to their experience with PML just simply makes me sick...... -
horror stories galore coming frm PML.. hahah ur right man...Originally posted by DiablosX:I think thats right!
I saw this thread on the IS250 and some guy was going around taking pictures of the car, showing us the dissapointing QC lexus is adopting now.
For me, i am a Lexus fan. However, after seeing the pictures..... i am a bit dissapointed. My wife prefers the cars as i had mentioned and personally, i hate big cars. So high end capacity cars of the brands i have mentioned is a big NO NO. (Eg. 520, E Class etc)
She loves the RX 8 and so do I but i did mention to her the HARSH engine of the rotary (in terms of FC) and the probability of introducing problems such as wear and tear in the near future.
Haiz....... really headache. In fact, the Lancer is also part of my choice as it looks "sexy" as what my wife had mentioned.
For me i personally love the IS250 or the 320. Just that my feedback from my friends with regards to their experience with PML just simply makes me sick......
anyways i think tt guy is juz picking on little little things.. or to put it simply he is a lexus hater..
u cant be so laser perfect in mass production cars one la.. he think what lexus exotic car ah.. each 1 handcrafted one ah...
i think no prob man juz go ahead with is250... sexy enough to me though... -
Thanks n0x!
Will definately go down to take a look at the IS250 personally. I have a bad habit though, if i were to go down and test drive, most of the time i would order it on the spot. Hahahahah.
However, due to the current nature of my work, i think it is not advised to drive such a car and such a brand.
My boss drives just a Hyundai Sonata. His deputy drives a BMW 520 though. But the deputy is known to be well to do in his lifetime and that he has already pathed himself a career already.
Many of my colleagues did mention to me to hold back on my purchases in the event that it actually affects my "performance" in the eyes of my big boss.
Well........ human socio dynamics and politics is something of a real mystery dun you think? -
haha no prob...Originally posted by DiablosX:Thanks n0x!
Will definately go down to take a look at the IS250 personally. I have a bad habit though, if i were to go down and test drive, most of the time i would order it on the spot. Hahahahah.
However, due to the current nature of my work, i think it is not advised to drive such a car and such a brand.
My boss drives just a Hyundai Sonata. His deputy drives a BMW 520 though. But the deputy is known to be well to do in his lifetime and that he has already pathed himself a career already.
Many of my colleagues did mention to me to hold back on my purchases in the event that it actually affects my "performance" in the eyes of my big boss.
Well........ human socio dynamics and politics is something of a real mystery dun you think?
but since u mentioned it.. liddat u cant really go for those cars liaoz since ur big boss drives a korean.. liddat guess u are stuck with a korean or jap brand liaoz... i suggest u go take a walk at kah motors or BM loh...and buy a smaller CC one... like tt u save $$$ also.. and most imptly u dun wanna screw up ur career advancements do u...
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from what i heard from a mazda SE she said that the auto transmission got 1 cooler whereas the manual got 2. so the auto 1 the engine will break down more easily cos of overheating thats why it is cheap.. and those pple at PI also keep quiet. maybe u want to confirm with those agents in mazda
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forget the BMW 320 unless its the E46 cos the E90 is JUST SOME CAR.....Originally posted by DiablosX:Thanks for the prompt reply people!!
Actually i have a few list of cars on my mind,
1. IS250
2. BMW 320
3. Mercedes C Class (C180)
4. Mazda RX8
These are not arranged in terms of preference. Just that i was actually targeting the IS250. However, i saw in one of the forums that the finishing this time round is rather dissapointing.
Any ideas or suggestions???? -
I did consider a 2nd hand E46. Just that i understand from some colleagues that a 2nd hand E46 is prone to problems and the chances of getting a lemon is very high. I have been to places like Cartimes and other places in Ubi and realised that many are not well maintained.
I know that after the 3 years warranty, you do not have to go back to PML for servicing. I understand that you can go to places like BVO to maintain your BMW.
Any bros got a reliable E46 experience to share? -
Hi DiablosX.
I am a Lexus Sales Consultant of the Borneo Motors. Read that you are actually considering the Lexus IS250, but disappointed with the Lexus build quality after having read some postings?
Hmmm strange... as the Lexus had been well known for its build quality. Many forums had even commended that the Lexus engineers had paid a lot of attention to details, such as the quality of the welded joints, the consistent space between every panel and doors, no sharp edges etc.
Well, this may sound like a 'salesman talk', but you will really have to feel it (and see it) for yourself to believe. May I invite you to the Lexus showroom to take a look at the IS250, as well as go on a test drive?
My name's Jonathan. Do feel free to call me at 96882200 if you are interested.
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Hi Lexus SC,
I just PM you already!
Thanks! -
Thanks DiablosX. I have replied your PM.
Anyway I have read that thread at MyCarForum. Let me say this: that guy can absolutely find no other flaws with the Lexus technology and build quality, so he has to resort to picking out the tiniest bit of whatever "flaw" he can chance upon.
I mean, if Lexus is so lousy, he can very well say how lousy the engine is, or how flimsy the panels felt. Then he wouldn't have to resort to picking out the 1mm or half mm faults.
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1: Totally agree with that statement coz if you opt for the auto you will never get the 9.5k rpm of the rx8 that the whole world was crazy about when it was first launched.Originally posted by n0x:1. i wun even consider the auto if i drive this kinda car.. if u want the convinience of an auto i suggest u consider other options...
2. PI always use a lot of gimmicks with a lot of hidden T&C to lure pple.. if MM carries this car i suggest u go to MM for peace of mind..
3.the fuel consumption for a rotary is notoriously bad.. last i heard is 7km/l on the avg...
4. i believe insurance shld be quite low since u are 26.. and i assume u not P plate bah...and most insurance co. see CC of car.. so this one 1300 and then can be considered 4 doors.. some sorta loophole...
5. the old rotary found in the FDs and FCs wears out easily.. but the new one found on the rx-8 is better.. HENG@ got mention b4 but i forgot the explanation liaoz...
2: Go for MM coz rotary is not the usual piston outside workshop is familiar with and furthermore you won't get updated ECU programme from PI ...and that's for sure. The last time RE Amemiya had a free ECU update guys who bought his RX8 from PI went crazy over it for the slot and guess wat... those are limited slots.... so why bother begging for something when you have paid 100k for it??
3. I HAVE TO TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THE 7KM/L. I have been driving a 6MT RX8 from MM for 2 years now and averaging 8.2 - 8.8 KM /L .... no bs about it . (singapore driving of course- and FYI those who said they are getting 7km/l coz they have no clue how to drive a car efficiently .... even you give them a hybrid they will still complaint about the fuel comsumption\
4: Insurance is definitely the cheapeast among high performance car of its class ........
5: Listen to someone who has been driving the car and not some "rumours" out there. I track my car on a monthly basis in sepang (hard driving and I am talking about every gear to the 9k rpm and consecutively for 12 hard laps non stop )and have been having the car for 2 years now ...... guess wat .... all I have done to the car is a simple top up petrol and normal oil change service from MM which cost me $130 and the car has never given me a SINGLE problem at all. On top of that the build quality of the interior is so good that it doesn not rattle at all even after two years.
not to brag but to prove a point ... if someone really want to buy this car and I think you really should talk to someone who owns the car and not from someone "who" claimed to be the GURU in all cars ....... 5 cents worth