


Originally posted by FireIce:
BMW pwning Jaguar...Originally posted by ditzy:Why the jaguar sengek the other way one?![]()
cool i didnt realise until 5 mins after lookng at the picture that the Jag emblem is facing the reversed way.Originally posted by FireIce:
Can't be helped lah... cos the brand is under Ford Motor Company mah... Quite a few other brands are under this company too, like Volvo, Aston Martin, Mazda and Ford itself... So they actually share the techonolgy among the various brands to bring you better quality cars... Quite a few other car companies are also using shared technology to lower R&D costs and improve car quality... So it's actually not very right to say that the Jaguar is not as good as before because it uses a lot of Ford stuffs, cos Ford here doesn't refer to the brand "Ford" but refers to Ford Motor Company...Originally posted by AE86tofu:well jaguar is using alot of ford stuff so its kinda lost my respect la....i prefered the old jags....very solidly built....
imho there's absolutely nothing wrong with Jags using Ford parts. are you gonna lose respect for Bentley too coz it uses VW parts? Platform sharing is the way of the future so we might as well get used to it nowOriginally posted by AE86tofu:well jaguar is using alot of ford stuff so its kinda lost my respect la....i prefered the old jags....very solidly built....
the mustang is rubbish...the current one that is...somhow the enginners were trapped in a cave or something sincve 1960sOriginally posted by KangZ:imho there's absolutely nothing wrong with Jags using Ford parts. are you gonna lose respect for Bentley too coz it uses VW parts? Platform sharing is the way of the future so we might as well get used to it now
I respect Ford as a car manufacturer coz it has given us good cars like the Focus and Mondeo, not forgetting Mustang. The Focus and Mondeo have one of the best, if not the best, FWD chasis in the world (in terms of handling). Why should jag be ashamed of using parts and sharing chasis from Ford? Even cars may share parts/platforms, they are able to behave differently.
Anyway back to the topic, in terms of class and prestige, i think there's no way any BMW can touch Jag. Jag is known as a gentleman's car, but for BMW? Not so sure about that. No offense to any Beemer drivers here.
Well rubbish or not, one can't argue that it's an iconic carOriginally posted by AE86tofu:the mustang is rubbish...the current one that is...somhow the enginners were trapped in a cave or something sincve 1960s![]()
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i am sure when u comapre and old jag to the current one u will know what i mean...standard really has dropped compared to the old one...
those ford products that are good are all international models like focus...Originally posted by KangZ:Well rubbish or not, one can't argue that it's an iconic carYupz true standard has dropped..but then so has the standard of any other car manufacturers in the world. Just look at Mercedes Benz, BMW and even Toyota. One major culprit is, of course, the need to cut cost to compete in the competitive market. Thus pinning the blame on Ford for its decline is quality is unfair. If it remained independent, would the quality have dropped? I won't put my money against it. It is just following the trend in the market, so blame the entire industry if you must.
And then consumers cried foul over the less than desired quality of the cars produced in the late 1990s. Luxury marques now realise that getting quality level up again is crucial (witness the new S-Class), and I believe other car manufacturers will follow suit.
Anyway I remember reading in a review of a Jaguar model and the reviewer wrote Ford probably saved Jaguar by buying over the company. It appeared that the downfall of the company began even before Ford bought it over.
FYI, RollsRoyce is owned by BMW... the engine in the phantom is a BMW engine. Though I really like the new phantom... have seen a few on the roads... drool...Originally posted by tomsss:And I will show you what comes in between the both of them...
And now a Phantom with aftermarket wheels!
wrong comaprison, the 3 series is the competitior of the X type...Originally posted by sand king:320i vs S-Type
Who Will Win?
actually the XJ series is still very well built, so are the XK jags... very nice.Originally posted by AE86tofu:well jaguar is using alot of ford stuff so its kinda lost my respect la....i prefered the old jags....very solidly built....
haha i shan't comment too much about the Mustang coz i have never driven one (will love to one day). To be honest i have no desire to own any of the Ford domestic models because they are tuned for the Americans who look for different things in a car compared to us. To us it may be rubbish, but this is how the Yankees like their cars so....Originally posted by n0x:those ford products that are good are all international models like focus...
if u take a look at the ford products intended for thier domestic market, u will see they are total rubbish...
and no offence... the mustang might be an iconic car but it had never declined in standard... it has always been a rubbish carreason why so many likes it is based soley on the figures.. which is very misleading...